Mass Effect
- Thread starter Caldwin
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Oh man! Talk about salt in the wound!
Yeah.
Ugh! That's bullshit! I mean, would I like the best video game ever made, so perfect that it wins all the awards by a landslide? Sure! But at this point, it's been so long since we've had a decent followup to Mass Effect, I mean, I can only speak for myself, but right now I just want something competent that respects the previous games.
So, not Andromeda?
With as many Mass Effect fans their are, they could probanly crowd fund that in less than a week.
That trailer for Mass Effect Universe left me pretty cold after I had a chance to think about it.
For starters, the cliche of yet another bar fight after seeing the same damn thing in the trailer for Veilguard made my eyes roll damn near out of my head at modern BioWare's creative bankruptcy.
Secondly, I'm not keen on a several-centuries time jump that leaves me with boring-as-f*ck Liara as my only link to the original trilogy. Unless Garrus and Tali are cryogenically frozen somewhere just waiting to join my team, I'm not interested.
Third, the Asari says to the guy wearing an N7 trench coat: "You look like military."
No sh*t. What gave it away?
And finally, this thing was still, in their own words, in "early development." WTF? It took BioWare less than five years to release the entire original trilogy. Just how long were they intending to milk this?
The video game industry needs to be douched.
For starters, the cliche of yet another bar fight after seeing the same damn thing in the trailer for Veilguard made my eyes roll damn near out of my head at modern BioWare's creative bankruptcy.
Secondly, I'm not keen on a several-centuries time jump that leaves me with boring-as-f*ck Liara as my only link to the original trilogy. Unless Garrus and Tali are cryogenically frozen somewhere just waiting to join my team, I'm not interested.
Third, the Asari says to the guy wearing an N7 trench coat: "You look like military."
No sh*t. What gave it away?
And finally, this thing was still, in their own words, in "early development." WTF? It took BioWare less than five years to release the entire original trilogy. Just how long were they intending to milk this?
The video game industry needs to be douched.
Kinda hard to argue. Like, emotionally, I want another Mass Effect, darnit! But practically, all the people who made Mass Effect, "Mass Effect" haven't worked at Bioware in a very long time. The people who had been working there are the people who made Andromeda, Vielguard and Anthem.
I've seen a common sentiment among some people that Mass Effect fans may have dodged a bullet, and it's hard to disagree.
But it's also hard to disagree that, darn it, I want another Mass Effect!
I've seen a common sentiment among some people that Mass Effect fans may have dodged a bullet, and it's hard to disagree.
But it's also hard to disagree that, darn it, I want another Mass Effect!
Then we should hope that EA gives it to another studio, like they did with the Dead Space remake. Or that someone else buys or licenses the IP from them.
I would honestly prefer if they'd left Liara out if there's a time skip. Make a clean break from the Normandy crew and start fresh. Maybe she could be a contact or a supporting character, (have her go full-time Shadow Broker?) but not part of the major cast. Putting her front and center just feels like nostalgia baiting.
Yeah, Liara is good as a holdover. Make her a legacy Shadow Broker...as a background NPC or a legendary character.
But I do agree, Normandy crew has had their day in the sun. Like don't make the game about them. But maybe you call the Shadowbroker and you recognize Liara's voice. You walk into a bar and Wrex is one of the patrons in the corner. You stand before the Quarian Admiralty board and Tali is the lead Admiral.
But as far as making them playable, they've had their day and anything new people who weren't the original team working on the original Mass Effect just wouldn't be the same.
But I do agree, Normandy crew has had their day in the sun. Like don't make the game about them. But maybe you call the Shadowbroker and you recognize Liara's voice. You walk into a bar and Wrex is one of the patrons in the corner. You stand before the Quarian Admiralty board and Tali is the lead Admiral.
But as far as making them playable, they've had their day and anything new people who weren't the original team working on the original Mass Effect just wouldn't be the same.
The funny thing about Liara is that I think two other Mass Effect characters do her shtick better. Tali is the better ingenue. Aria is the better kingpin.
Tali's awkwardness is endearing because she's already good at what she does and has opinions she'll defend even when she's clearly out of her depth. Watching her grow into someone who can stand her ground with the people she spent her whole life looking up to is one of my favorite parts of the trilogy.
And Aria? You can tell she runs the room just by how amused she is when somebody thinks they can tell her what to do. Liara gets the more impressive job title, but I'd rather watch Aria work.
So when the pitch is basically "Don't worry, Liara's still around," my first thought is still "Okay, but what about Tali?"
Tali's awkwardness is endearing because she's already good at what she does and has opinions she'll defend even when she's clearly out of her depth. Watching her grow into someone who can stand her ground with the people she spent her whole life looking up to is one of my favorite parts of the trilogy.
And Aria? You can tell she runs the room just by how amused she is when somebody thinks they can tell her what to do. Liara gets the more impressive job title, but I'd rather watch Aria work.
So when the pitch is basically "Don't worry, Liara's still around," my first thought is still "Okay, but what about Tali?"
I still have some lingering "I kinda like her" for Liara. She was my main love interest for several playthroughs.
But I do think that a lot of that is because Biioware made sure she was the obvious canon choice. Once I started spreading out to other love interests, it's kinda hard to go back to Liara.
It's not so much that I don't like Liara any more. It's just that I started to see just how much Bioware was trying to be "See, Liara is the greatest, isn't she? She's the obvious love interest. You wouldn't want to break Liara's heart, would you. Look at how much she's done."
And I just grew into the whole, meh, I kinda like these others more.
But I do think that a lot of that is because Biioware made sure she was the obvious canon choice. Once I started spreading out to other love interests, it's kinda hard to go back to Liara.
It's not so much that I don't like Liara any more. It's just that I started to see just how much Bioware was trying to be "See, Liara is the greatest, isn't she? She's the obvious love interest. You wouldn't want to break Liara's heart, would you. Look at how much she's done."
And I just grew into the whole, meh, I kinda like these others more.
I always found Liara kinda boring. She doesn't get much of an arc in 1 compared to Wrex or Garrus, she has minimal actual story importance compared to Tali or the Virmire duo, she's not even mandatory for the fight with her mother. She kinda felt like she was just......there because they wanted a hot alien chick.
Then in 2, she's sidelined for the majority of the game, aside from Lair of the Shadow Broker, but she still feels like an entirely different character. So she had an arc......entirely off-screen. Yes, it's shown in the comics, but it's kinda jarring if you haven't read those. I'm a firm believer that supplementary media should be supplementary, not required.
And in 3, they go all in on pushing her as Shepard's best pal and obviously-intended love interest, but still don't really give her much of a character arc. They keep telling you how important she is, but rarely actually show it. I feel like her best moment in the entire trilogy is meeting her father, and that's entirely on Aethyta being a riot.
Then in 2, she's sidelined for the majority of the game, aside from Lair of the Shadow Broker, but she still feels like an entirely different character. So she had an arc......entirely off-screen. Yes, it's shown in the comics, but it's kinda jarring if you haven't read those. I'm a firm believer that supplementary media should be supplementary, not required.
And in 3, they go all in on pushing her as Shepard's best pal and obviously-intended love interest, but still don't really give her much of a character arc. They keep telling you how important she is, but rarely actually show it. I feel like her best moment in the entire trilogy is meeting her father, and that's entirely on Aethyta being a riot.