Takara Missing Link G1 Series

Sabrblade

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...Never played FF in my life.
 

LordGigaIce

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LBD "Nytetrayn"

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NovaSaber

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I assume the weirdo believed the same incorrect thing as the person at the top of that page who didn't understand what "multiplat" means.
(And ironically called someone else an idiot for remembering that the game had already been announced for PS3 first.)
 
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The Predaking

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I don't see Ironhide with a head being any different than Ultra Magnus with knees. Its just adding to the toy something that it always should have had. Let's wait and see what the final product looks like before giving up on the line.
 

The Predaking

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i'm referencing a forum post from 2008 that was someone's reaction to FFXIII getting announced for the xbox 360

can't believe this site doesn't understand my deep cut references from a completely different forum smh my head
Weren't you like 8 when that post was made?
 

G.B.Blackrock

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I don't see Ironhide with a head being any different than Ultra Magnus with knees. Its just adding to the toy something that it always should have had. Let's wait and see what the final product looks like before giving up on the line.
IMHO, it's apples-and-oranges different. "Ultra Magnus with knees" still looks almost exactly like Ultra Magnus looked in G1 unless you pose it to take advantag of the knees.

Adding a head to a toy that never had one changes its fundamental appearance.
 

The Predaking

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IMHO, it's apples-and-oranges different. "Ultra Magnus with knees" still looks almost exactly like Ultra Magnus looked in G1 unless you pose it to take advantag of the knees.

Adding a head to a toy that never had one changes its fundamental appearance.

I agree it's a huge change for the figure. I am just saying that the figure should have always had a head as a TF toy. I know its origins made it like it was, but to me, missing link isn't just adding knees, its making G1 figures as they should/could have been at the time. This seems like a good fit for the line to me at least. If you don't agree, that's fine.
 

Shadewing

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IMHO, it's apples-and-oranges different. "Ultra Magnus with knees" still looks almost exactly like Ultra Magnus looked in G1 unless you pose it to take advantag of the knees.

Adding a head to a toy that never had one changes its fundamental appearance.

This. This line so far has been about remaking G1 toys with modern articulation; otherwise they still look exactly like the original toy. Ironhide right now feels like they just made a completely new g1 inspired toy for him.
 

Donocropolis

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This one does seem to fall somewhere between the original mission statement of "Literally G1 with knees (and elbows and hips and ankles and etc.)" and the likes of ML Arcee. If, as many people assume, the design allows both an extra articulated "real" G1 Ironhide in all his skeletal glory AND a new, improved version that uses all the mass from the vehicle mode to create something that actually resembles the cartoon model, then that's a pretty good compromise, I think.
 

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to me, missing link isn't just adding knees, its making G1 figures as they should/could have been at the time.

The trouble with this is that that's an abstract, subjective goal, and by virtue of that openness to diverse definitions can be contradicted as soon as someone has a different definition of it. Does "as they should have been at the time" mean being able to strike dynamic, non-brick poses? Looking like the show models (face and pointy horns for Bee, a head for Ironhide, etc)? Having in-show-scale robot modes (x should be taller etc)?

At least "more/modern articulation" has been a concrete and somewhat consistent element. And "looking like the show", also a concrete element, has been an option (i.e. It's not the only version they'll make) for some releases, and can be for Ironhide.
 

Sabrblade

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If you ask me, it's less "Ironhide's toy should have looked like this from the beginning" (which is impossibly unfair since the toy already existed and was never even meant to be a living robot character) and more "Ironhide's original toy shouldn't have been part of the original toy range in the first place" since it was never convincing as a living robot character, looking more like nonliving drone-like equipment (which is exactly what it originally was back in Diaclone).
 

LordGigaIce

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I mean... I still expect this thing to be able to look like G1 Ironhide. I think you'll be able to switch between a toy accurate Diaclone mech suit and a design kinda reminiscent of the Sunbow look.

Right now we have a single blacked out teaser image. Not nearly enough to be declaring they betrayed the spirit of the line or anything.
 

Exatron

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I mean... I still expect this thing to be able to look like G1 Ironhide. I think you'll be able to switch between a toy accurate Diaclone mech suit and a design kinda reminiscent of the Sunbow look.

Right now we have a single blacked out teaser image. Not nearly enough to be declaring they betrayed the spirit of the line or anything.
Spoilsport! You need to play along too!

Clearly, the image is blacked out because he'll be black like Bay's Ironhide, like he always should have been. And his new head will stay in the same spot sticking up above and behind his windshield, just like Energon Ironhide.

 

Platypus Prime

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I remember my original Ratchet, I got it via mail-away with robot points. From that example of the mold, if the paint doesn't come off like the old paper stickers when you immerse the toy in a bubblebath as he and Bumblebee do underwater operations, it's clearly not G1 enough.
 

Princess Viola

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all shitposting aside, i really do think that going so far in the sunbowification of ML ironhide is like...missing the point? idk i feel it's one thing to offer 'anime versions' where they're done in the cartoon colors or like having minor optional aesthetic changes (like how ML sunstreker has integrated fists + optional 'toy-style fists' or how ML grimlock can have his head positioned either in a normal position in robot mode or way far back like in g1) but idk maybe i'll have to see more than just a sillhouetted teaser image but going so far as to make a 'what if g1 ironhide's character model existed as a toy in 1984' is like...idk that feels straying too far from what missing link should be?
 

Stepwise

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I think I'm on the same page here - "missing link" started as G1 with knees, and can even stand on the shelf looking like the original until someone picks it up and realizes it's different.

On the flip side, "studio series" has drifted a bit from the original concept of screen accuracy, too.

Also - turning 30 next month - happy early birthday. (I vaguely remember 30. It was a long time ago . . . )
 

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Those are not the original toy's arms with more articulation, and that doesn't look like the original toy's chest either.

Yeah I'm dooming. I'd be okay with this if the original robot mode is still an option, but I don't think it is.
 


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