Part of the issue (and yes, I am taking a joke seriously because there's some truth in it) is that Hollywood budgets are outsized. Godzilla Minus One reportedly cost much much less than a comparable American film and it was fantastic.
Transformers: One - New Animated Prequel coming September 20th, 2024 - New Toy Official Images!
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they should edit the credits and title screens out of Cyberworld and release that in the theaters obviously
(i am vry smrt)
Considering how cheap it would be to throw that together, if they could get anybody to see it at all it would probably make a bigger profit than TFONE did.
Whoever picked that September release date really ought to hire a secretary and never do their own scheduling ever again.
Parents are desperate for things to keep their kids entertained during the summer. That should have been a no brainer.
Blame the G1 cartoon for premiering in that month back in 1984.
In a way I'm almost glad Bay's coming back. It means I've already seen the new movie four or five times, so I don't need to bother.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about needing robots...it was hard for me to see them due to all the shaking cameras. I guess there were some humans in the movie too. I mistook them for cardboard standups, which wouldn't be free either...
Edit: Point of annoyance, why for the anniversary didn't they take the absolute cheapest possible way out and just return the original animated movie to theaters in limited showings? It's already made, DECADES old, and has a built in fan base that will show up to watch it anyway even if they/we CAN recite almost all of it from memory including the nearly unintelligible Junkion bits? Heck, make a double feature with Transformers One, and call it 'Anniversary Bookending' or something...You can see the rise, death, rebirth, and death again of Optimus Prime in one go! Or take the original movie and make a bonus by showing The Return of Optimus Prime right after. No matter how, it's guaranteed money for almost no 'new' outlay.
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I blame whoever thought that mattered.
One failed because anything involving The Thirteen is cursed to fail by the eldritch powers of The Napkin. That's why AOTP Nexus Prime is the way he is: he took all the failure into himself for the good of the entire toyline.
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Now I have the odd image of Beast Wars Inferno right before he shot the Energon, suddenly having a vision of the future of the franchise.
"For...the...ROYALTIES!!!"
"For...the...ROYALTIES!!!"
Sure, and that made sense at that point. But they sure let him go after the fifth, which is what I'm getting at.
But then what would they do for the 40th anniversary of the movie itself? =O
Media companies have gotten too cute with their properties. Every major fictional character these days needs a "[INSERT NAME HERE] Day" that basically amounts to a big social media push every year. Hasbro wanted in on that, made "Transformers Day," and decided that it would be the anniversary of the G1 cartoon debut.
And once you've sniffed your own farts like that, the idea of releasing a new movie on that oh so sacred day seems like a really fun idea, even if it's not a great day for the sort of movie you're releasing.
Still, I can't help but think that even the bad release date could have been overcome had there been interest.
The biggest shame of TFO is that while it is a fun movie for Transformers fans, it's a great movie for general audiences. My husband loved it, and he is far less into this stuff than I am. I had a good time, but I could clock where things were going like ten minutes in. He, on the other hand, was genuinely shocked by the "twist"(?) that D-16 was Megatron.
So they made a movie that could absolutely appeal to general audiences with a good story, but general audiences just don't care. They don't see an all animated Transformers movie as anything to really get excited for. And while bad marketing and a bad release date didn't help... I can't shake the idea that Hasbro and Paramount may have bought into the brand's hype a bit too much? It can be good. Really good, and TFO proved that.
It's just really, really hard to get general audiences invested in Optimus and Megatron's personal stories like they are with Luke and Darth Vader's, for example.
And that goes back to faults with basically all the prior films. Aside from a single line in the first film and reference in the fifth, NONE of them ever offered anything for audiences TO become invested in.
I agree that, at least at some point, Paramount and Hasbro did buy into their own hype. Hard not to when an acclaimed animation director gave you, without hyperbole, probably the best Transformers film. But we’d also reached a point where Transformers was maybe just a bit…overexposed. Same issue afflicted Marvel post-Endgame, leading to much of scale back we’ve seen the past couple of years.
All brands need to either have a measured approach or take breaks to allow “both sides” to refresh themselves. Audiences need to process and desire new content. Creators need time to develop meaningful content. Star Wars went a decade to a decade and a half between trilogies. What has lead to the current malaise, IMO? A Star Wars “media” isn’t special anymore. Almost any given year since 2015, you have animated and live action series (often multiple per year) as well as films.
I feel Transformers fell into a similar trap: why should people pay to see an Animated film in theatres when they have access to Earthspark, Prime, War for Cybertron and piles of other series (not to mention live action films) available at home, and often for free?
Godzilla is the king of long running film franchises, and repeatedly goes on break for 10 years at a time. It seems to work.
Yet the owners of that are not caught up in the Hollywood bubble, western entertainment became so centralised and when this DEI nonsance started combined with the streaming wars, they fell into a major trap of their own making as egos took over common sense and the result is the state of Hollywood today, where Warner is getting sold once more to Skydance who own Paramount, Disney been putting out flop after flop at the box office as they revealed their true colours and audiences no longer trust them with their kids, plus budgets spiralled out of control as there was this mentally of content, content, on top of the Covid vrius tricking them into thinking that people would be stuck at home forever and forever, so Hollywood made their bed and now has to lie in it, while the owners of Godzilla can walk away with a lot of money and not care about Hollywood's problems as its their own mess and when the owners of Godzilla want more money, they'll take out the Dragon dagger and start playing it to summon the mighty creature from the depths of the seas and make another movie!
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