Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

CoffeeHorse

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Much like the orange cancer, AI has no concept of long-term consequences.

According to Grok, AI actually does get the concept, sorta, but in a very slacker kind of way, and has a tendency to overestimate its ability to manage those consequences. Basically, any consequence that isn't immediate just looks like any other decision tree, and AI assumes it will make the right decision at the time. Later. Whenever that comes up.

Apparently "Make no mistakes" is only adding fuel to the fire. Grok says that doesn't look to AI like an instruction to be careful. It just makes AI assume that it will make no mistakes.
 

Anonymous X

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I did not enjoy being informed about Trump’s latest social media post.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Alright, so I had a thought and I want to run it against some folks I can trust.

From some reports: republicans are sick and tired of trump and want him gone. Bitching him out when cameras aren't around. Yet they bow to his every whim and support him in vote (with a small number of exceptions.).

So... why?

1.) they are complicit in trumps crimes directly.
2.) they are complicit in the cover ups.

So they need to be pardoned before republicans drop out of power. So why not oust trump, install vance (even though they don't like him.) and get someone more stable than donny dwindles? Someone less likely to drop dead randomly.

Cause the couch fucker will throw the whole republican party to investigators and prosecutors to curry favour with voters for his own presidential run in '28. Peter thiel wants power, and vance will do as he's told, he's a puppet.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Right NOW?
It's because he'll rubber stamp whatever gets rolled onto his desk from the Republican dominate Congress. They might be sick and tired of him, but he may still have SOME political value in some sections of the country...at least until recently.

Post-midterms? That's when things are apt to get interesting. If Democrats make the gains many are hoping for, the existing party might finally decide that Trump has become a liability and be more willing to get rid of him. That would open up, potentially, some more partisan dealmaking with Vance being more amicable to that the Republicans might try to leverage for the 28 presidential election. Probably (and rightfully), hoping the short memories of voters will end up working in their favor.

Given his age and lifestyle (and the declines we've seen), I'm HIGHLY doubtful Trump will be a factor for a 3rd term. Be it the continuation of his cognitive decline, or he finally keels over.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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They see his popularity eroding and want to get some press for speaking against him before midterms. They know their voters aren't actually paying attention enough to notice how they actually function at their jobs, so they can pull their usual double talk without a problem. Their words are air.
 

Pocket

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Post-midterms? That's when things are apt to get interesting. If Democrats make the gains many are hoping for,
Which they likely won't, because they won't be allowed to, because Trump's biggest asset to Republicans right now is his willingness to turn the upcoming midterm election into a complete sham. They don't even need to pass legislation to make it happen and have it on the record that it was their own doing; purely through a combination of executive orders and ignoring the courts when they demand he stop, he can do literally anything he wants now, and they know that one thing he wants is to prevent Democrats from winning next November at all costs, and that's good news for them.
 

Pocket

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Honest except for the entirely made up part about them having been "fighting him for years"; it's news to me if any of them have broken with him on a single issue.
 

Ultra Magnus13

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Honest except for the entirely made up part about them having been "fighting him for years"; it's news to me if any of them have broken with him on a single issue.

Those first 3 have been drifting closer and closer into "alt" right nutjobs, rather than just political slime balls. Alex Jones has been that way for as long as I can remember.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Now lets see if they cave and start kissing his ring again or if he's finally losing his grip on these people because they see the writing on the wall that associating with Trump will bring them down too. The tweet was clearly intended to scare them back into the fold.
 

KidTDragon

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They'll hop back on board the Trump Trainwreck once his approval numbers start going back up and not a second sooner. Remember: they don't have principles, they just turn their sails in whichever direction the right-wing winds are blowing at the moment, and right now they're blowing towards "Iran Attack Bad". Look at how quickly Megyn Kelly went from "I'd still back Trump even if he dropped a nuke" to "I don’t know about you, but I am sick of this s‑‑‑! Can’t he just behave like a normal human?". Was that even 24 hours? They get their money from views, so they're gonna follow wherever the views lead them. What does Trump think he can do, have them primaried?
 


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