The Kaiju Thread of Building-Smashing, Flame-Breathing, and Slam-Dunking

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
Mathew Broderick set the tone when his introduction had him singing in the rain while barging into Chernobyl. Then I saw Kathy Griffin and my soul just died a little. It was then that I knew...I hugged up.

Holy hell! 16 minutes in and the sexual harassment lawsuits are just piling up. I mean, I was alive in the 90's...and I just...I can't imagine this was funny...even back then!

Okay...I just saw an establishing shot of New York City and it hit me...this was made in 1998. 2001 hasn't happened yet. That said, this is a disaster movie made by the same people who made Independence Day...and the Twin Towers just took center stage of the establishing shot. I'm going to cringe hard later...aren't I?

Okay, Godzilla is finally making his first appearance. And much like Independence Day, it's a bunch of overly acted reaction shots, people getting out of cars, stupid lines....and New York City has a film critic as a mayor...which kind of tracks. But I think I've decided at this point that if I make a note on every time I cringe, this is going to be a very long post and it's going to take me all day to get through this movie. So...umm...yeah. I'm putting the iPad away now and if this winds up being my entire post...well...it is what it is.

Okay, here's something I actually wrote into CoPilot just to keep the narrative going.

1 hour in. Still got 1 hour, 18 minutes left. This is going to be a marathon, hard won. Getting more coffee at the moment to wake myself up again. Here are my notes so far. Feel free to comment.

Yeah...I needed coffee to survive.

Okay, with my previous statement of "I can't make a statement about every time I cringe or I'll be here all day...this little atom bomb just left me with...well...actual response.

Blond Hair Lady (because honestly, I can't be bothered to remember names): You never said it was off the record.

Me: The tape you stole was literally labeled "Top Secret" you STUPID...C**T!!!

"No cameras." Really? That's your concern right now? What's the lone press-man wannabe going to tell the world they don't already know. They've already seen a skyscraper-sized lizard being hunted down by a military that twice did more destruction than the monster they were hunting!

That is one hell of a cab they’re driving! The shocks must be the most premium shocks given to any cab anywhere. I gotta ride a New York cab sometime. Their an engineering marvel!

Oh joy! And it ends on a "To Be Continued" that...in a mercy that I can only say proves that there is a God, was never followed up on...oh, and a P. Diddy song that, even though it was made specifically for the movie, still has to be censored by Godzilla roars!

Okay...now for a few notes of actual review...

Okay, Fnu, I understand your point of taking the movie for what it is instead of what the title says it should be. I really do. But here's what the movie is.

Typical 90's action schlock that counts more on spectacle than story, actors that can't act, characters that make the most bafflingly stupid life choices, writers who don't write dialogue or scenes...they write cliche storms, jokes that aren't funny, CGI that was so early in the tech that it had to be hidden most of the time in rain, darkness and extreme closeups. Like, the rubber suits and toy vehicles of the original Gojira movie might be dated, but at least they had heart!

Scenes were lifted wholesale from Jurassic Park. Dialogue was just one cliche storm after another...with maybe a one liner here or there that I had to take a moment to debate whether or not it was supposed to be a joke before I proceeded to not laugh. Characters were as hollow in that way of I'm not sure whether to blame the actors or the writers, because I don't think either one of them did their jobs very well.

This movie couldn't decide if it was a monster movie or a poorly written comedy that makes me need to go to my Monty Python collection just to get something comparatively highbrow!

And maybe I shouldn't be expecting too much with Matthew Broderick. The only good movie I've ever seen him in was War Games. But...that other guy, the french guy...that was the guy from Mission Impossible and French Kiss. Even he was boring.

"Oh sure, but tell us what you really think." I think I spent $8 on this from Amazon and the only reason I'm not burning this DVD right here and now is because it has the video for the Wallflowers cover of "Heroes" on it. Otherwise, this DVD would be collecting dust on the shelf right...now!

BTW's...does it say anything about the movie that I couldn't be arsed to remember a single characters name except for Audrey, and the only reason I remember hers is because she was named after a man-eating plant that I would much rather watch than ever even think of this movie ever again?
 

ZakuConvoy

Well-known member
Citizen
So, what I'm hearing is that you will NOT be needing a bigger box?

...For all that vintage Godzilla 1998 merchandise you could track down? Because they thought this movie was going to be HUGE back in the day.

Yeah, I didn't really think you'd enjoy this one. But, you never know. Again, I'd say the cartoon is better. But, I really don't know if you'd be interested in spending MORE time in this universe.

Okay, I’m just 3 minutes in and I have to say this. I saw people all over the internet making iguana jokes about Godzilla’s design. And you know, I just thought they were poking fun at the design “hah hah, Godzilla looks like an iguana…so ugly. 90’s CGI sucks…hah hah.” But…um…no! There are actual iguana’s in the opening credits!
You know what? I actually like Godzilla 1998/Zilla's design. Call it nostalgia if you must, since I did own a few happy meal toys of this from Taco Bell, but there you go.

Is it a good design for Godzilla? Eh...probably not. But, is it a good kaiju design? I think so. I kind of like that it's "sleeker". The longer neck and forward-facing spines give it a unique and memorable silhouette. And I like the more square head shape.

If you sized this design up, it'd actually make for a decent foe for the "real" Godzilla to fight. If the movie makers could resist the urge to make Zilla a joke, again. Which would be difficult, given THAT scene in Final Wars. But, I think Zilla's made a few non-joke appearances in various video games, so it can be done.

CGI that was so early in the tech that it had to be hidden most of the time in rain, darkness and extreme closeups.
Don't blame the early CGI for that. Movie makers are STILL doing that. It's part of the reason why all movies nowadays are filmed to be so dark that you can barely make anything out. Godzilla 1998 is a TRENDSETTER!
 

Dvandom

Well-known member
Citizen
I don't think I've ever watched the whole G98 movie (I caught the last 20-30 minutes on TV once), but I really liked the cartoon followup. IIRC, they even echoed Kiryu by having their Mecha-G be built around the corpse of the movie Zilla. (It did suffer from the problem of other licensed US versions in that it couldn't use any of the other Toho monsters, and their new monsters were less than memorable.)

---Dave
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
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Someday historians will study this film because of how 90s it is. There is a point when 'dated' turns into 'time capsule'.
 

Ultra Magnus13

Active member
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Just judge it on how well it does what it wants to do, not how well it does what fans think it should have done instead. This creature isn't a walking atom bomb, but it is a walking victim of the atom bomb. It's a scared, tormented, innocent animal whose existence we can't tolerate for reasons that are our fault to begin with. It's not Toho's Godzilla, but it's a valid kaiju story.


I think you are giving them WAYYY to much credit. What it wants to do is cash in on Jurassic Park and Independence Day.

Actually:

Pretty fun toon, and does a lot to rehabilitate the movie, and a solid premise.

So, what I'm hearing is that you will NOT be needing a bigger box?

...For all that vintage Godzilla 1998 merchandise you could track down? Because they thought this movie was going to be HUGE back in the day.

Yeah, I didn't really think you'd enjoy this one. But, you never know. Again, I'd say the cartoon is better. But, I really don't know if you'd be interested in spending MORE time in this universe.


You know what? I actually like Godzilla 1998/Zilla's design. Call it nostalgia if you must, since I did own a few happy meal toys of this from Taco Bell, but there you go.

Is it a good design for Godzilla? Eh...probably not. But, is it a good kaiju design? I think so. I kind of like that it's "sleeker". The longer neck and forward-facing spines give it a unique and memorable silhouette. And I like the more square head shape.

If you sized this design up, it'd actually make for a decent foe for the "real" Godzilla to fight. If the movie makers could resist the urge to make Zilla a joke, again. Which would be difficult, given THAT scene in Final Wars. But, I think Zilla's made a few non-joke appearances in various video games, so it can be done.


Don't blame the early CGI for that. Movie makers are STILL doing that. It's part of the reason why all movies nowadays are filmed to be so dark that you can barely make anything out. Godzilla 1998 is a TRENDSETTER!

Yeah, I enjoy his design, just not particularly as Godzilla. I think they would have a couple options to make him work well in a true Godzilla movie. As a smaller more agile pack of Kaiju, or follow the cartoons idea, of a Kaiju more or less raised by and loyale to humans/a group of humans. He is smaller and weaker than most the other Kaiju, but much more agile, and fiercely loyale.
 

CoffeeHorse

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I think you are giving them WAYYY to much credit. What it wants to do is cash in on Jurassic Park and Independence Day.

I don't remember Independence Day wanting me to feel sorry for the aliens when they lose.

The dinosaur thing has been interesting. Every time dinosaur reconstructions get puffier, Tristar's Godzilla design stands out more as the weird fantasy beast that it is.
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
Gotta be honest, Fnu. I didn't really feel sorry for Godzilla either. I was just relieved that meant the movie was almost over.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Some of my best friends have been lizards, so I guess it hits different.
 

ZakuConvoy

Well-known member
Citizen
Godzilla's atomic fire breath could probably cook up a MEAN batch of chili dogs.

Sonic x Godzilla is coming from IDW comics!
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I'm calling it now. Godzilla's getting the Chaos Emeralds, and we're getting a new Super Godzilla out of this.
 

Haywire

Collecter of Gobots and Godzilla
Citizen
Nice! Thanks to a helpful coworker, I have a few of the individual cans, but didn't get the 99-pack. Really want the PBR store display that went with that promotion!
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On a similar note, Godzilla and C4 energy drinks had a promotional flavor.
And tangentially, I wish I had gotten my hands on the Boss Coffee Blue Impact flavor from a couple years back...
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
If I'm going to spend that much, it better be fully functional!
 


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