Iran. Nuff said.
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Meanwhile:
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APNewsAlert: JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli military official says the country is still attacking #Iran, after White House said Israel agreed to ceasefire.
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If I read the articles/blurbs accurately (who knows with how frequently things seem to change), Iran’s 10 point plan to end the conflict would basically undue the last decade of diplomatic actions to constrain the country’s nuclear ambitions. Will it be agreed to wholesale? Not a chance, but Trump, when pushed, seems to back down more often than not.
Trump has created an ultimate FAFO scenario where there is no “good way” to spin an exit here. Short of complete annihilation, Iran stands to gain more from any “peace deal” than the US. Even if they agree to nuclear conditions, it feels like they stand to gain in control of the Straight of Hormuz, eased sanctions, and a massive political boon in the region.
There is, literally, nothing the US stands to gain aside from maybe some nuclear guarantees. Which has come at the cost of billions of dollars, hundreds injured or dead, and continued long term damage to our standing on the world stage. And war crimes for which I’m not holding my breath for any accountability.
Trump has created an ultimate FAFO scenario where there is no “good way” to spin an exit here. Short of complete annihilation, Iran stands to gain more from any “peace deal” than the US. Even if they agree to nuclear conditions, it feels like they stand to gain in control of the Straight of Hormuz, eased sanctions, and a massive political boon in the region.
There is, literally, nothing the US stands to gain aside from maybe some nuclear guarantees. Which has come at the cost of billions of dollars, hundreds injured or dead, and continued long term damage to our standing on the world stage. And war crimes for which I’m not holding my breath for any accountability.
Israel has announced it won't stop bombing... so there's no ceasefire.
I would honestly believe that. So many times during the cold war we all almost died and it wasn't known till years after the fact. But I will not repeat that statement until I've got a pile of evidence that proves it.
I was just thinking that it was only last year that Trump accused Zelensky of “playing with World War III”. Self awareness isn’t a strength of the orange man.
It's almost like he's a pathological liar and hypocrite.
CTV news is reporting that the straight is closed again cause israel is still attacking hezbolla in lebanon. Guess it collapsed quicker than I figured it would.
I wonder what the odds are of this whole thing ending in a military coup because the GOP refuses to remove Trump and the nuke-happy morons who work for him.
There seems to have never been a ceasefire. Iran was bombing Israel and the Gulf kingdoms all night long. There's also the teensy little matter of whatever anonymous War Boy now runs Iran insisting that the ceasefire covers Lebanon but Trump insisting it doesn't.
I suppose it's progress that Iran has stopped pretending to have nothing to do with their proxies.
Iran's grip on Strait of Hormuz 'not part of our planning', Israel ambassador says
Israeli ambassador Hillel Newman admits his country was surprised by the scope of Iran's response to the Middle East war and that it did not expect Gulf states to be targeted in retaliation strikes.
www.abc.net.au
Who could have seen that coming besides all of the experts whose warnings they ignored?