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wonko the sane?

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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I mean... if trump makes it to the end of his term and is replaced by a democrat: yeah, tariffs will likely go away.

If trump dies, gets impeached, or 25thed: he will be replaced with vance who will try to do his best trump impression; which means at least keeping the whatever tariffs are currently in place when it happens.
 
Ungnome

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Yup, Vance's strings are being pulled by Peter Thiel and his ring of Yarvinite tech CEOs. They want the tarrifs gone and they want the levels or immigration enforcement to drop.
 
wonko the sane?

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Nope, cause the corporates are currently screaming at trump to knock it off and it isn't working there either. The project 2025 folks are the ones in charge right now, the corporate money is legacy republicanism that hasn't caught up to reality.
 
Ungnome

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
Citizen
Yes, but Vance is a Yarvinite. Has been since he entered politics. He sucked up to Trump and was bankrolled by Thiel and co to get into the US government to do what they wish. Once trump is out of the way they will use Vance as a lever to get what they want. One must remember that Thiel is gay. He doesn't want the theocratic parts of project 2025 to be implemented, only the pro-corporate, neo-feudalistic parts.
 
wonko the sane?

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
I mean, fair interpretation: but vance absolutely NEEDS trumps cult to follow him. Even with the cult, vance will lose the subsequent election, but he needs them to acknowledge him as the next in line for the leadership of the magats. So the only thing he can do is try to be a trumpier trump than trump was.

He'll fail, cause he's vance and literally everyone in the world hates him.

Semi related statement: Vance's birth name is "bowman" and given how he treats trans folk and others that have changed their names: he should be called bowman from now on. Fair's fair.
 
Anonymous X

Anonymous X

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Ungnome said:
They also know the tarrifs will likely go away once Trump is gone, weather that is due to death, impeachment, the 25h amendment or the end of his term.
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That’s what I’m banking on too. (Not that I live in an EU member state any longer, unfortunately, but I’m aware that the UK is very much in the EU’s economic orbit.)
 
Ironbite4

Ironbite4

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Vance doesn't have the chops to impress the Cult of Personality. Hell, none of Trump's kids have what it takes to take control of the cult. Nobody does. It's a cult that for all intents and purposes, lives and dies with the Orange Piss Pot.

Ironbite-and Trump made it that way.
 
MrBlud

MrBlud

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And Trump has some weird hardon for Tariffs that other Republicans don’t (beyond wanting to suck up to him)

The minute he’s gone so are they.
 
Rhinox

Rhinox

too old for this
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The landscape of our current politics is going to change dramatically the second Trump curls up and turns blue. Republicans have ridden the cult of personality, but there is no heir apparent. Trump wouldn't tolerate one. So they have this movement, this cult, and no leader. Without Trump the cult falls apart and the votes disappear. That's why they're pushing so hard for gerrymandering and other things now. They need a way to win when Trump is gone. They've got a lot riding on the health of an old man who eats way too much McDonalds.
 
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