This isn't really "MCU" related, but it is Marvel related....and it doesn't really deserve it's own thread, so in here it goes!
It's kind of a cute commercial for Coke.
It's kind of a cute commercial for Coke.
Marvel Cinematic Universe - General Thread
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Very cool but, dang, juggernaut shouldn't be building sized.
Everything just came to life the size it already was. The Juggernaut on her shirt was really big for the cityscape on the comic in front of her. There is no hero in the entire clip that is their correct size. Look at Colossus twice as tall as DareDevil. DareDevil was on a comic cover and Colossus was a statue.
Ah true. Still weird tho.
I don't know how many people have already seen this from SDCC, but I thought this was pretty neat.
And a different version:
And a different version:
Since no one else has mentioned it, I suppose I will.
Marvel has announced their Dr. Doom. And it is Robert Downey jr. Kang is out and Doom is in.
Marvel has done so well with their casting. People I hadn't even considered have nailed their roles out of the park and become the defining version of that character. I'm sure RDJ will do well. He is an amazing actor. But, he's not what I was hoping for. I'm sure this is going to be some multiverse or elseworlds kind of thing and that's fine, I'm sure I'll enjoy the movies and the role, but it wasn't what I was looking for.
Marvel has announced their Dr. Doom. And it is Robert Downey jr. Kang is out and Doom is in.
Marvel has done so well with their casting. People I hadn't even considered have nailed their roles out of the park and become the defining version of that character. I'm sure RDJ will do well. He is an amazing actor. But, he's not what I was hoping for. I'm sure this is going to be some multiverse or elseworlds kind of thing and that's fine, I'm sure I'll enjoy the movies and the role, but it wasn't what I was looking for.
I am still hoping that this is a trick. Like they know that they can't have him running around set without being found out within an hour. So announce that he will be back to play a different character. Wham, Ironman returns to theaters.
Sorry, didn't see that thread. Since this was the general catch all thread, I figured it'd be discussed here.
I am not so silly as to think no one has thought of this, but I hadn't seen it or thought about it and maybe you hadn't either. I was reconsidering Endgame in light of Loki as I drove home from the post office. Endgame set up the time travel rules for the MCU and Loki built on top of them, but I hadn't taken the implications back to the source.
How time travel works was obvious to Banner mathematically before they ever even did it. They established branch realities in two contexts. 1) You can't change the past because if you go backward and change something you create a branched reality and none of the changes affect your present. This was why they couldn't just prevent the snap from happening in the first place. 2) The Ancient One was concerned about the branch reality without a time stone and Banner reassured her that they would come back afterward and make it like it never happened. That was all that needed to be addressed in Endgame and it was roughly tidy (I'm not going to talk about Old Steve).
We learned more about this in Loki that can decontextualize it all. Presumably Steve really was successful in putting all the stones back where they belonged, allaying the Ancient One's concern. Actually we don't know that for sure, but it is possible. If he got there just in time and got everything settled properly where nothing of any consequence changed then probably no branched reality was created. But she actually didn't need to be concerned, at least for the sake of reality. If they hadn't taken the stones back at ALL, the TVU would've shown up pretty soon and pruned the branch. I hadn't thought about that before. Steve didn't even need to go. All of those realities would have been just like the one where Loki appeared in the desert. Pruned and forgotten.
But the other thing that is tickling my brain is that Endgame came from a present-centric angle that the TVU doesn't have. They are outside time and pruning branch realities all the time all over the timeline. I don't think there is really even a way to get your head around that exactly that they put in a day's work fixing something in the 19th century and tomorrow there'll be something to do in the 22nd. All this to say: When they went and got the time stones from another time and did a new snap and Thanos came through from the past and had that whole battle, they probably created a branch reality anyway. From the TVU's perspective, why would that have been any different? And this time, maybe just this one time ever, the TVU was sent to prune the original reality instead of the branch. I wonder if they could tell.
How time travel works was obvious to Banner mathematically before they ever even did it. They established branch realities in two contexts. 1) You can't change the past because if you go backward and change something you create a branched reality and none of the changes affect your present. This was why they couldn't just prevent the snap from happening in the first place. 2) The Ancient One was concerned about the branch reality without a time stone and Banner reassured her that they would come back afterward and make it like it never happened. That was all that needed to be addressed in Endgame and it was roughly tidy (I'm not going to talk about Old Steve).
We learned more about this in Loki that can decontextualize it all. Presumably Steve really was successful in putting all the stones back where they belonged, allaying the Ancient One's concern. Actually we don't know that for sure, but it is possible. If he got there just in time and got everything settled properly where nothing of any consequence changed then probably no branched reality was created. But she actually didn't need to be concerned, at least for the sake of reality. If they hadn't taken the stones back at ALL, the TVU would've shown up pretty soon and pruned the branch. I hadn't thought about that before. Steve didn't even need to go. All of those realities would have been just like the one where Loki appeared in the desert. Pruned and forgotten.
But the other thing that is tickling my brain is that Endgame came from a present-centric angle that the TVU doesn't have. They are outside time and pruning branch realities all the time all over the timeline. I don't think there is really even a way to get your head around that exactly that they put in a day's work fixing something in the 19th century and tomorrow there'll be something to do in the 22nd. All this to say: When they went and got the time stones from another time and did a new snap and Thanos came through from the past and had that whole battle, they probably created a branch reality anyway. From the TVU's perspective, why would that have been any different? And this time, maybe just this one time ever, the TVU was sent to prune the original reality instead of the branch. I wonder if they could tell.
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No place to put it but I got silly giddy at seeing my favorite obscure Marvel character appear in a game! It's a mobile game but he actually has lines!
I guess they need more mystic characters for this Mystic Mayhem game so they put Sleepwalker in it. He did fight Nightmare in an issue.
Armor is here. Why not Shang Chi? Or Iron Fist? Or Ghost Rider, for more magic might.
Sleepwalker is awesome. Great to see him used.
-ZacWilliam, now I want Crystar to show up.
-ZacWilliam, now I want Crystar to show up.
I didn't see an Ironheart thread so posting here.
Saw the first ep.
Isn't the Hood here the Powermaster whatever partner of Mirage who is suppose to be a GI Joe?
Riri came from Wakanda from Black Panther 2. She should have stayed.
I like escape rooms, even if I'm not the most observant, so I liked the audition.
I got Moongirl vibes from this. This should have been a Moongirl live action show! C'mooooon! There's even an extra friend who could have been her friend Casey.
Saw the first ep.
Isn't the Hood here the Powermaster whatever partner of Mirage who is suppose to be a GI Joe?
Riri came from Wakanda from Black Panther 2. She should have stayed.
I like escape rooms, even if I'm not the most observant, so I liked the audition.
I got Moongirl vibes from this. This should have been a Moongirl live action show! C'mooooon! There's even an extra friend who could have been her friend Casey.
I haven't watched the show yet, but Anthony Ramos is in the show and was on Rise of Beasts.
And Hamilton, Fero. He was a main character in Hamilton.
Some news:
According to Kevin Fiege, Secret Wars will mark a "reset" of the MCU, including possible recasting of legacy characters.
Also, Thunderbolts director Jake Screier is the frontrunner to helm the new X-Men film, due after Avengers Secret Wars.
According to Kevin Fiege, Secret Wars will mark a "reset" of the MCU, including possible recasting of legacy characters.
Also, Thunderbolts director Jake Screier is the frontrunner to helm the new X-Men film, due after Avengers Secret Wars.
Wiping the slate and starting a whole new MCU would be the MOST fatiguing thing for me. What I want it is probably not possible. I get it. But for the record what I want is to cast a slate of actors that are willing to play their character every couple of years for the rest of their careers.
Honestly? It's a damned if they do damned if they don't thing. The MCU has run into the same problem the shared comic book universe it's based on ran into- after a hot start it becomes so continuity heavy that most general audience types will simply find it inaccessible.
A full-on universal reset (what a DC-esque thing to do, Kev) could potentially alleviate that issue for most, but it could send the wrong message to the fans who have stuck with them through all of this.
Ultimately? A reboot or remake of the MCU was inevitable eventually, but I think simply letting it rest after Endgame, and then revisiting it with a fresh continuity and direction ten years down the line would have been the smarter move. Give people a chance to miss it.
Being a part of Disney, “resting the brand” was never an option on the back of Endgame. The need to feed the machine to feed the shareholders was too strong. The Variety interview Feige just did basically had him admitting the fundamental issue was over-saturation of Marvel, by order of Disney. At this stage, I’ve not really kept up with most of the MCU short particular “sections” that appeal to me.
I do find it amusing how both Marvel and DC have stumbled into similar paths for “fixing” the current state of their films, but we’ll see how things turn out. Or maybe more accurately, which corporate overlord STEPS IN first.
I do find it amusing how both Marvel and DC have stumbled into similar paths for “fixing” the current state of their films, but we’ll see how things turn out. Or maybe more accurately, which corporate overlord STEPS IN first.
I'm waiting to watch f4, in case it answers multiverse stuff. My screening is still on Sunday, ugh.
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Ironheart ep3
I got spoiled on the deal with the Hood so I'm realizing that what gets from the heists... makes sense? Maybe?
Even knowing that, I can't believe this is how this story goes. Now there's no way this can be adapted to Moon Girl. Except maybe the Beyonder stepping in?
Do love the idea of the mom wanting an AI holo too but it got too real for a second there.
Joe intrigued me. I see his arc but hope it's not that way.
I'm actually looking Ironheart (still imagining this as Lunella and Casey tho, haha)
Um, I watched the Hamilton filmed stage play on Disney Plus. I didn't notice Ramos there. But I think I saw it before Rise of the Beasts (and Twisters) so I wouldn't have recognized him there yet.
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Ironheart ep3
I got spoiled on the deal with the Hood so I'm realizing that what gets from the heists... makes sense? Maybe?
Even knowing that, I can't believe this is how this story goes. Now there's no way this can be adapted to Moon Girl. Except maybe the Beyonder stepping in?
Do love the idea of the mom wanting an AI holo too but it got too real for a second there.
Joe intrigued me. I see his arc but hope it's not that way.
I'm actually looking Ironheart (still imagining this as Lunella and Casey tho, haha)
Um, I watched the Hamilton filmed stage play on Disney Plus. I didn't notice Ramos there. But I think I saw it before Rise of the Beasts (and Twisters) so I wouldn't have recognized him there yet.