Clearly, Hollywood ran through their backlog of movies to be remade, and this is where we're up to now.
How To Train Your Dragon: "Live action movie coming June 13th"
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It is such a strange experience to have the message board complaining that this movie is a lazy shot for shot remake and have Facebook having a fit that they made Astrid black. So anyway...they've changed some shots.
It just isn't historically accurate for dragon-riding Vikings with Scottish accents to be black.
It just isn't historically accurate for dragon-riding Vikings with Scottish accents to be black.
Well.. the horned helmets isn't accurate either. 
And Ironically.. a black viking isn't that unlikely. From what I've seen, when raiders took "viking wives" the kids would still be treated as part of the group, they wern't outcast or anything.
And Ironically.. a black viking isn't that unlikely. From what I've seen, when raiders took "viking wives" the kids would still be treated as part of the group, they wern't outcast or anything.
Is this implying that parents don't still plunk their kids down in front of movies they saw as kids? If not, good lord there's more wrong with the world than I realized.
That's what weirds me out about all these remakes. The original movies are still out there. You can buy the Blu-Ray off the interwebs, or find a used copy at any thrift store, or even watch it for free if you're already subscribed to one of the streaming services it's on or live within driving distance of any library. Shot-for-shot remakes might have made sense in the days before VCRs, when the only way to see an older movie was hoping it got a rerelease or aired on TV, but we haven't been living in that world since before I was born.
What incentive is there for anyone, ever, to go see this jive?
When you think about it, remakes have been a thing since the dawn of movies. Not to jump genres, but Bela Lugosi's Dracula wasn't the first, and I'm sure nobody at Hammer Studios said "cor, blimey, the Yanks already did Dracula and Frankenstein, better film somethin' else"
But, usually, there was some attempt to tell the story differently than the previous version. Even today, one could argue that a film like Godzilla: Minus One is just a remake of the 1954 original. Which it is, but beyond some broad strokes, the story is very different.
In my opinion, most of the animated film remakes I've seen up to now don't really try to tell the story any differently, they just add different window dressing. Maybe this film will be different, but if it's not, it kind of makes me wonder why they don't do what Disney used to do with these films; namely, remaster the original animated film and put it back into theaters for a limited run.
But, usually, there was some attempt to tell the story differently than the previous version. Even today, one could argue that a film like Godzilla: Minus One is just a remake of the 1954 original. Which it is, but beyond some broad strokes, the story is very different.
In my opinion, most of the animated film remakes I've seen up to now don't really try to tell the story any differently, they just add different window dressing. Maybe this film will be different, but if it's not, it kind of makes me wonder why they don't do what Disney used to do with these films; namely, remaster the original animated film and put it back into theaters for a limited run.
My only guess is diminishing returns on the old movies, while the idea is that if a new movie makes back its budget and then some, that's a bigger profit.
Which, of course, is a risk, and I'm not sure how well it's been paying off for those who try.
Frankly, I'm just surprised Shrek didn't get the treatment before this.
Yeah, I love to remind people who are opposed to remakes on principle—especially remakes of video games from the '90s or 2000s—that the version of The Wizard of Oz they've actually seen was the FOURTH film adaptation. (I actually have a collector's edition DVD that includes the other three as bonus features). Thing is, though—and the reason it comes up specifically in discussions of old video games—that's excusable because film still was a young and rapidly evolving medium back then, and remakes made sense just to keep up with that pace. If they didn't remake The Wizard of Oz, for example, we'd never have gotten a version that's even in color.
But we've had the technology to make How to Train Your Dragon in live action since before the original came out. They didn't make it a cartoon as some kind of compromise.
I've no issue with remakes, I don't have issue with Disney's live action remakes like some do, usually the films they're remaking are least from the 80's or 90's. Even if I'm not interested in all of them, they tend to feel like they're mostly trying new things with them. Not all of them, but its been long enough that I can see people wanting to try something new, even if that new is simply "lets see how realistic we can make it". But HTTYD isn't that old, and they aren't really doing much different. They're not even, imo, going for "more realism" since Toothless still looks exactly like he does in the original, with a fairly cartoony cute design. And what we've seen so far, on top of that, is shot-for-shot the original movie. Most Disney remakes at least try to balance "here's whats new" and "here's what familar" in their trailers, and almost never are they shot-for-shot.
Everything about this right now, feels holy unessciary, WAY more so then any Disnet Remake.
Everything about this right now, feels holy unessciary, WAY more so then any Disnet Remake.
I can see an argument for live action remakes of 2D. I'm not for it, but there is an argument for it. It's a huge change. A change that may take away a lot of what worked in the first place, but a change.
This is going from 100% CGI to just mostly CGI.
This is going from 100% CGI to just mostly CGI.
The reason to "why" must be that shiny new Theme Park Universal is opening next May that predominantly has a HTTYD dedicated land and surely they want some kind of synergy going with that so it wont be a park opening to a franchise that has been dormant for 6 years (time of opening)
Guess that makes enough sense for me...
Does sort of beg the question of why not do some sort of special re-release, though. Have to be cheaper, yeah?
I don't think that is causal. I think they are both because of another reason. It's a big bankable success. Now. Not 20 years ago.
I just saw the How to Train your Dragon live action.
Practically 1 to 1. It was still incredible. Hiccup's actor was a little too handsome to be geeky but he was amazing.
But Astrid's actress was awful! Lifeless delivery during action parts. Dead chemistry with Hiccup, especially since he was acting so well. She was phoning it in. Such a waste.
About three changes. One extra side plot, one lost comedy bit, a change with the tactics. Also nepotism was mentioned here.
It's practically the same movie BUT still good to watch. I had fun. The flight scenes had me weaving in my seat. Still got the heart ache.
If only Astrid's actress was just better, gosh darn it. She ruined it for me.
Practically 1 to 1. It was still incredible. Hiccup's actor was a little too handsome to be geeky but he was amazing.
But Astrid's actress was awful! Lifeless delivery during action parts. Dead chemistry with Hiccup, especially since he was acting so well. She was phoning it in. Such a waste.
About three changes. One extra side plot, one lost comedy bit, a change with the tactics. Also nepotism was mentioned here.
It's practically the same movie BUT still good to watch. I had fun. The flight scenes had me weaving in my seat. Still got the heart ache.
If only Astrid's actress was just better, gosh darn it. She ruined it for me.
Weird. She did a great job in the Last of Us. However, I think it's a bit of a miscast for Viking, so maybe they should have went with someone else.
Saw it over the weekend. Was very dark/washed out looking, but I'm like 95% sure that that was just an issue with my theater's projector, not anything to do with the film itself. Like Fero said, it was pretty much 1:1 with the animated version, so it's still a very good story/movie. I think I prefer the animated version slightly, but it had been many years since I last saw it so this was pretty much just like re-watching a good movie I haven't seen in a while.
I heard that the sequel has already been greenlit. It would be interesting if they took the story in a different direction from the animated sequels to have some new stories (like, nothing would have to be contradictory, more like just other stories taking place with the same characters to expand the franchise) but I figure it will probably also be a 1:1 with the animated versions.
I heard that the sequel has already been greenlit. It would be interesting if they took the story in a different direction from the animated sequels to have some new stories (like, nothing would have to be contradictory, more like just other stories taking place with the same characters to expand the franchise) but I figure it will probably also be a 1:1 with the animated versions.
I thought it might just be me who noticed Astrid's weak acting but most reviewers said she was ok but I did find a few who said her acting wasn't up to par. I feel like maybe the controversy about casting her are making people more forgiving? But I dunno. Am I being too hard in trying to compare an expressive cgi person to a real live actress? Maybe you guys can see what I mean when finally watching it?
I rewatched the original after seeing the live action cuz I kinda loved it both (except Astrid's acting). The live action actually cut out one important animated scene!
This part
This really should have been in the live action because it explains how Hiccup knew how to defeat the final dragon, by igniting the gas inside
I rewatched the original after seeing the live action cuz I kinda loved it both (except Astrid's acting). The live action actually cut out one important animated scene!
This part
This really should have been in the live action because it explains how Hiccup knew how to defeat the final dragon, by igniting the gas inside