Transformers: One - New Animated Prequel coming September 20th, 2024 - New Toy Official Images!

[Superomegaprime]

I just been watching the movie on DVD, still a good film, yet a lingering question I have is, what did Sentinal do with all of the cogs he stole, I very much doult that he would of kept them, I wonder if he gave them to the Quintasons as apart of the payment in the deal he made with them! Also, watching the film, D16 is pretty much a transformers verison of the Hulk, where he steadly getting more and more angry as the film progresses which turns him into Megatron fully, yet I wonder what the aftermath of his defeat at Optimus's hands would do to his personalty and when he calms down!

Out of all of the desgins for the main cast, honestly, I like the Cogless Orion Pax the best, it just feels right because he is fitting into the world more natually!

 

[CoffeeHorse]

Sorry I'm late to the party. Fill me in on your idea.

We need you to get on Tiktok and start a troop building challenge.

 

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

I just been watching the movie on DVD, still a good film, yet a lingering question I have is, what did Sentinal do with all of the cogs he stole, I very much doult that he would of kept them, I wonder if he gave them to the Quintasons as apart of the payment in the deal he made with them!

He put them into a really, really big clock.

The transformation sequence takes about 20 hours, but with it, you can see today turn into tomorrow!

 

[Steevy Maximus]

Production Designer Jason Scheier made a post on social media. While Paramount/Skydance remains committed to the Transformers, as a film franchise, they are NOT committed to a sequel to 2024’s Transformers ONE animated film. Named “TF2 Rise Up”, Scheier has confirmed that the film will NOT be moving forward, despite the strong critical reception. Contrary to the TFormers writer, the reason shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone:
Despite the best reviews of any film in the franchise, the Transformers One’s actual financial performance was abysmal for an animated film based on an established franchise. The merchandise also didn’t seem to do particularly well, all said and done. The lukewarm financials associated with the last 3 theatrical releases (despite the strongest reviews of the franchise) has pushed Paramount to try and retreat and reteam with Michael Bay to recapture…whatever it was that made the first run of films billion dollar hits.

Transformers 2 Rise Up Movie Sequel Will Not Be Made According to Production Designer

With the recent announcements by Paramount / Skydance of new Transformers movies going into production, it appears the Transformers One sequel, what was to be named TF 2 Rise Up is not one of them acc.

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Transformers One ended its theatrical run with just over $130 million WORLDWIDE. Domestically, the film garnered just short of $60 million, with international not being much better. Transformers The Last Knight, the last film directed by Micheal Bay, garnered $130 million on just its domestic run. The last pair of live action films (Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts) had worldwide hauls more than three times what TF One had.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

It wasn't just the director. These films used to have someone who knew a little bit about marketing.

 

[Sabrblade]

This really isn't new news. Josh Cooley already confirmed last year that Paramount Animation has zero desire to make a sequel to TF One due to its poor financial performance.

 

[Superomegaprime]

It wasn't just the director. These films used to have someone who knew a little bit about marketing.

Timing was also a problem, it came out just as kids went back to school and parents breathing a sigh of relief after a long summer, they should of pushed it closer to half term or earlier in the summer, it then might of been something parents would want to do with their kids, not all parents do the 9 - 5 business, if it released before the kids went back, then there might been some more interst as parents trying to figure out what to do with their kids

 

[LordGigaIce]

Transformers One ended its theatrical run with just over $130 million WORLDWIDE. Domestically, the film garnered just short of $60 million, with international not being much better. Transformers The Last Knight, the last film directed by Micheal Bay, garnered $130 million on just its domestic run. The last pair of live action films (Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts) had worldwide hauls more than three times what TF One had.

For people lamenting why Bay seems primed to return, this is why. His worst performing Transformers movie, TLK, made more than any post-Bay movie.

Thing is... I'd be fine with leaving Bay in the past if they'd continued with the direction started with Bumblebee, but no. RotB went back to the Bay formula, just without Bay. If they're going to do Diet Bay... they might as well get the genuine article.

Now ok this is live action. What's that got to do with TFO? Well... first let me say that I loved TFO. It was a great movie with a lot of heart and love for the franchise. Objectively it's one of the top three movies in the franchise as far as being a quality movie goes (it jostles with '07 and '86 for me).
And my own experiences watching it with my husband who has very little knowledge about Transformers outside of knowing who Optimus and "the tape guy" are, tell me that if general audiences had given it a chance it could have worked. They didn't though... and I may have to smash some sacred cows because I've sort of changed my opinion on why they didn't.

"It was the marketing."
"It was the release date."

Both are true. The first trailer, which seemed to be most of what the movie got in terms of marketing, was pretty cringe. And the release date did leave a lot to be desired.
Thing is... I've seen movies succeed despite both. And TFO had the sauce to succeed so why didn't it?

It wasn't the bad trailer. It wasn't the release date. Both would have been overcome if there www interest, and there just wasn't any. Why? Because the general audiences aren't interested in this franchise the same way they are for, say, Star Wars. There's not a baseline casual interest in Transformers or its lore or story among causal movie goers.
The Bay movies succeeded because Bay turned it into a vehicle (ha) for high octane disaster movie/action popcorn blockbusters. There was ENOUGH of a "oh yeah I remember Optimus" hook for causal moviegoers to give it a chance and the action was epic to keep interest there.

Do people care the same way they care about other franchises, though? No. Not really.
Compounding things is that animation in the west is still viewed as a "kiddie" medium. Call it unfair but it is what it is.

So you have a Transformers movie without humans (ie audience viewpoint characters), without Baytastic action, and heavy on lore most general audience types don't care about, in a medium that's seen as not as "serious" as live action? Well... are the results at the box office really that shocking?

TFO was a movie that filled most TF fans' wishlists- no humans, set on Cybertron, deep lore and character work. And maybe it proves what's been evident in the Star Wars and comic book fandoms for years- that maybe fans shouldn't be listened to?

 

[Platypus Prime]

Ok, here's my plan: K-Pop Decepticon Hunters. The next crossover, where, having been given transforming cars by a Masked American organization that my or may not be related to some franchise owned by a guy named Joe, the girls go out to hunt down alien robots only to find out the terrible truth, when Soundwave's cassettes rip off their masks to show they were human the whole time. Specifically they were Jem and the Holograms, who were also the K-Pop girls mothers!

And for some reason, there will be five episodes in the middle featuring the Mandalorian before it goes back to the main plot.

The final scene takes place in the office of the CEO who authorized all this, with a lot of pitchforks and Grandpa Simpson's voiceover, "Burn him!!!"

 

[Donocropolis]

For people lamenting why Bay seems primed to return, this is why. His worst performing Transformers movie, TLK, made more than any post-Bay movie.

Thing is... I'd be fine with leaving Bay in the past if they'd continued with the direction started with Bumblebee, but no. RotB went back to the Bay formula, just without Bay. If they're going to do Diet Bay... they might as well get the genuine article.

Now ok this is live action. What's that got to do with TFO? Well... first let me say that I loved TFO. It was a great movie with a lot of heart and love for the franchise. Objectively it's one of the top three movies in the franchise as far as being a quality movie goes (it jostles with '07 and '86 for me).
And my own experiences watching it with my husband who has very little knowledge about Transformers outside of knowing who Optimus and "the tape guy" are, tell me that if general audiences had given it a chance it could have worked. They didn't though... and I may have to smash some sacred cows because I've sort of changed my opinion on why they didn't.

"It was the marketing."
"It was the release date."

Both are true. The first trailer, which seemed to be most of what the movie got in terms of marketing, was pretty cringe. And the release date did leave a lot to be desired.
Thing is... I've seen movies succeed despite both. And TFO had the sauce to succeed so why didn't it?

It wasn't the bad trailer. It wasn't the release date. Both would have been overcome if there www interest, and there just wasn't any. Why? Because the general audiences aren't interested in this franchise the same way they are for, say, Star Wars. There's not a baseline casual interest in Transformers or its lore or story among causal movie goers.
The Bay movies succeeded because Bay turned it into a vehicle (ha) for high octane disaster movie/action popcorn blockbusters. There was ENOUGH of a "oh yeah I remember Optimus" hook for causal moviegoers to give it a chance and the action was epic to keep interest there.

Do people care the same way they care about other franchises, though? No. Not really.
Compounding things is that animation in the west is still viewed as a "kiddie" medium. Call it unfair but it is what it is.

So you have a Transformers movie without humans (ie audience viewpoint characters), without Baytastic action, and heavy on lore most general audience types don't care about, in a medium that's seen as not as "serious" as live action? Well... are the results at the box office really that shocking?

TFO was a movie that filled most TF fans' wishlists- no humans, set on Cybertron, deep lore and character work. And maybe it proves what's been evident in the Star Wars and comic book fandoms for years- that maybe fans shouldn't be listened to?

Agree with all of those points. It was a very good Transformers movie, and basically everything I, a longtime Transformers fan, wanted from a new movie. But the disappointing truth is that the market just isn't large enough for that sort of thing for it to be a financial success the way the Bay films were. Now, I think that there is a lot that could be done to make a more "budget friendly" movie like One. I have no idea what they paid for big name voice actors that they used, but I doubt that they would have LOST any viewers by using more traditional voice actors.

 

[Steamed Hams]

Salt into wounds Mr Shaier, Salt into wounds.

I loved Transformers One. I'd kill for a sequel be it a Amazon original (hint hint, kiss kiss, nudge nudge), be it a few more serious stop motion shorts, be it a comic. but to tell us THRICE?! that's salt into wounds.

 

[Sabrblade]

Not to mention the fact it got sandwiched between Beetlejuice Beetljuice and The Wild Robot.

Compounding things is that animation in the west is still viewed as a "kiddie" medium. Call it unfair but it is what it is.

So, you're saying we need a Transformers movie made by Studio Ghibli to get western audiences to take it seriously as an animated movie.

 

[Superomegaprime]

I have no idea what they paid for big name voice actors that they used, but I doubt that they would have LOST any viewers by using more traditional voice actors.

The era of the movie star is pretty much dead at this point, soical media killed it as it use to be that you didn't know or care about a star's political points and if they did say something, they tended to be screened out before going in magazines and stuff, but today, many are unfilltered and shown themselves to be complete idiots who know nothing of how the world works and what they say can have a negative effect upon a film if it goes viral, for example, Rachel Zegler, her words about Snow White, really struck a nerve with a lot of people, of course there was also Dinkage's words that cut out dwarf actors from the film, thou that was mostly Zegler spiralling out of control as she wouldn't shut up! So having a big name, means very little these days to people and it comes down to the trailers themselves plus honest reviewers, people tend to take the pro-critics words with a pinch of salt as many will paint the worst films as the best thing since sliced bread!

Back in the day, big movie stars, people normally had a idea of what they were getting when they hear someone starring in a film and even if they don't know what the film is about, they have a sense of the type of film that the actors tended to be doing, but these days, many of the so called stars, just lack any real draw, thus people aren't intersted as a lot of them, are just manifactored stars where's Hollywood decided that they would be the next big thing and get shoved into everything to the point that people grow sick of seeing them and they see right through them as false stars!

For animated films, you don't really need major star power, just people with good voice skills, of course, it does help if the story also good and those behind it, are capable of producing something good!

 

[Donocropolis]

The era of the movie star is pretty much dead at this point, soical media killed it as it use to be that you didn't know or care about a star's political points and if they did say something, they tended to be screened out before going in magazines and stuff, but today, many are unfilltered and shown themselves to be complete idiots who know nothing of how the world works and what they say can have a negative effect upon a film if it goes viral, for example, Rachel Zegler, her words about Snow White, really struck a nerve with a lot of people, of course there was also Dinkage's words that cut out dwarf actors from the film, thou that was mostly Zegler spiralling out of control as she wouldn't shut up! So having a big name, means very little these days to people and it comes down to the trailers themselves plus honest reviewers, people tend to take the pro-critics words with a pinch of salt as many will paint the worst films as the best thing since sliced bread!

Back in the day, big movie stars, people normally had a idea of what they were getting when they hear someone starring in a film and even if they don't know what the film is about, they have a sense of the type of film that the actors tended to be doing, but these days, many of the so called stars, just lack any real draw, thus people aren't intersted as a lot of them, are just manifactored stars where's Hollywood decided that they would be the next big thing and get shoved into everything to the point that people grow sick of seeing them and they see right through them as false stars!

For animated films, you don't really need major star power, just people with good voice skills, of course, it does help if the story also good and those behind it, are capable of producing something good!

The one and only exception to that is Face/Off.

Seeing Nicholas Cage play John Travolta playing Nicholas Cage while John Travolta plays Nicholas Cage playing John Travolta is 100% what I was there for.

 

[Sabrblade]

@Cyoti Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

Because the general audiences aren't interested in this franchise the same way they are for, say, Star Wars. There's not a baseline casual interest in Transformers or its lore or story among causal movie goers.
The Bay movies succeeded because Bay turned it into a vehicle (ha) for high octane disaster movie/action popcorn blockbusters. There was ENOUGH of a "oh yeah I remember Optimus" hook for causal moviegoers to give it a chance and the action was epic to keep interest there.

It's not the job of general audiences to be interested. It is the job of a movie to be interesting.

General audiences did not care about this franchise in 2007, but TF07 broke through in a way TFONE didn't, because it did something right besides just be cool. It was interesting.

It wasn't just a cool alien invasion summer blockbuster (which the trailers did a good job selling). It was the most interesting movie of the season. General audiences who gave this alien invasion movie a chance were immediately rewarded with Blackout's attack on the SOCCENT base. We're shown that just one of these things (whatever they are) is enough to take that base by itself. And it shows that brief sign of life when it notices the camera flash. The stakes are immediately set. Then we're shown that these things can be anywhere, with Frenzy's raid and subsequent escape in one of the police cruisers that had seemingly come to stop him. That was a brilliant escalation. Then we're shown that there's two sides, when Bumblebee fights Barricade. Then the Autobots arrive and we're shown (sorta) the whole trans-scanning thing. Then we meet the Autobots and find out they're a bunch of dorks. As much as fans complained about a lot of that (and it was a bit much, yeah), to clueless casual audiences that was a twist.

Only then does Optimus Prime start lore dumping. After audiences were already onboard.


TFONE was a waste. I'm sorry. Good word of mouth didn't save it because the praise amounted to "The characters all have personalities for once" and "The plot doesn't have a bunch of weird gaps in it for once." Yes the writing succeeded where the Bay films failed. If it were a writing assignment I'd certainly give it a higher score on technical grounds. But general audiences aren't critics checking off boxes on a writing checklist. They're there to be entertained, and TFONE didn't reel them in, and it's not because they just don't care about the franchise. They didn't care in 2007 either. But TF07 assumed they didn't care, and tried to make them care. TFONE assumed they'd care, so it didn't bother to do the kind of step by step introduction that TF07 did so well.

I think the whole plot was a mistake. The whole transformation cogs thing was theoretically a story worth telling, maybe. For us, sure. But for general audiences who don't care, I think that was just too far back in time for a prequel to start. We watch a broken world become better. That's a story, sure. If audiences cared about that broken world, and cared about the better world at the end, it might have worked. But they didn't care. And honestly, I didn't care either. I wanted to see Cybertron devolve into civil war. I watched Cybertron become an absolutely better place. And Megatron starts a very brief riot because he's still grumpy despite getting what he wanted. Seriously, the writing does not deserve the praise it got.

TFONE is backwards. We needed to start with Cybertron at its height, see the stakes, then watch it fall apart. Imagine Golden Age Cybertron with Hollywood budget visuals. A planet-wide city designed for transforming robots. We've never seen a designer really nail what a weird place Cybertron would be. We get bigger buildings for bigger humanoids (and without humans around we can't even tell that they're bigger). This was the time to do it. Put some thought and budget into it and make it weird and interesting. General audiences who gave this movie a chance should have been immediately rewarded with the most interesting setting of the whole summer blockbuster season. From the opening scene they should have seen the Cybertron Optimus Prime and Megatron remember, that they still wish they could have back by the time the war spills over to Earth. They got Metru Nui. It wasn't interesting enough for general audiences to care when any of it gets damaged in Megatron's riot.

 

[Haywire]

So, you're saying we need a Transformers movie made by Studio Ghibli to get western audiences to take it seriously as an animated movie.

I think a Ghibli Transformers would be interesting. As long as Studio Khara doesn't get involved...

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

I think a Ghibli Transformers would be interesting. As long as Studio Khara doesn't get involved...

How about Studio Trigger?

 

[Superomegaprime]

How about Studio Trigger?

Its got to be able to market toys and Tigger style tends not be very marketable for that from what I've seen, but over the top action sequences combined with a good story might help as long as the films keep focus

 

[Sabrblade]

Tigger style tends not be very marketable

Disney would beg to differ.