More to the point: appealing to the GOP means moving towards their point of view. Their point of view is fascism. We do not want to meet them halfway. We want to bury them both literally and metaphorically.
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I see now where the miscommunication is.
Paladin, no one was trying to appeal to the GOP. They were trying to shame them. Embarrass them using the specter of Reagan. Maybe give some of the older ones a thing to think about (though we all know how that will work) Nothing was meant to appeal or appease. It was trying to get them to look at what they've become.
Paladin, no one was trying to appeal to the GOP. They were trying to shame them. Embarrass them using the specter of Reagan. Maybe give some of the older ones a thing to think about (though we all know how that will work) Nothing was meant to appeal or appease. It was trying to get them to look at what they've become.
I'm pretty sure Ted Cruz tried the "That's not very Reagan of you" argument in early 2016. It didn't work.
He was. But now that's Trump. Trump has turned almost the entire party into a cult who legitimately think of him as a literal god, and will gladly throw anyone under the bus, past or present, if their vision for America doesn't align perfectly with his. Anyone who isn't in that cult doesn't need to be reminded how far things have fallen. Who does that leave for gestures like this to be targeting?
Maybe the Reagan worship among average Republican voters was never as intense as FOX portrayed it.
and let's check in on one of the supposed frontrunners for 2028.
www.huffpost.com
Gavin Newsom Agrees With Charlie Kirk On 'Deeply Unfair' Trans Athletes
“I revere sports, and so the issue of fairness is completely legit," Newsom said.
I still think Walz will be back.
Walz wants the fight. That's the thing, he's an attack dog. You don't just leash them back up and expect them to slink back under the porch. No, he's gonna want another round or two.
I'd put him as a high contender for the democratic nominee if we get the next go around.
I'd put him as a high contender for the democratic nominee if we get the next go around.
Anyone in anything remotely resembling a position of power in the current Democratic party is PHENOMENALLY bad at their job.
and let's check in on one of the supposed frontrunners for 2028.
Gavin Newsom Agrees With Charlie Kirk On 'Deeply Unfair' Trans Athletes
“I revere sports, and so the issue of fairness is completely legit," Newsom said.
Okay, everybody gird yourselves, because I have to admit that Trump was right about something.
*deep, calming breaths*
Just over a year ago, during one of his inane speeches, Trump referred to California Governor Gavin Newsom as "New-scum." And while not for the reasons he thinks, I have to say that Trump was right on the money.
Now excuse me. I need to take a shower.
Something something broken clock.
Isn't this the same governor who told his constituents to avoid social gatherings during covid and then attended a lavish indoor dinner party?
Yes. Yes it is.
apnews.com
California governor went to party, violated own virus rules
California Gov. Gavin Newsom has been pleading with his state's nearly 40 million residents not to gather in groups, even with friends and family.
apnews.com
As scummy as Newsom is, I'd still take him over the current regime every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
That's like saying I'd rather be shot in the foot than shot in the forehead.
I think Newsom is pulling an Obama on trans issues. Back in 2008, Obama said he was against gay marriage, then once the polls shifted, he "evolved" and fully supported it.
Now Newsom, who has been one of the most pro-LGBTQ governors, suddenly says letting trans women compete in women's sports is unfair. This isn't some random change of heart. He knows the polls are moving and he's definitely thinking about 2028.
He wants to look reasonable to moderates while hoping progressives aren't willing to sacrifice another election by sitting it out or throwing their votes away on someone like Jill Stein.
Now Newsom, who has been one of the most pro-LGBTQ governors, suddenly says letting trans women compete in women's sports is unfair. This isn't some random change of heart. He knows the polls are moving and he's definitely thinking about 2028.
He wants to look reasonable to moderates while hoping progressives aren't willing to sacrifice another election by sitting it out or throwing their votes away on someone like Jill Stein.
This is the ugly face of pragmatism. He wants the job, the big office. And he's sat back and seen how the country voted this last go around. It's scummy. Despicable. And completely in line for any politician. They want the job. And they'll say whatever they think will get them the job.
Those that don't tend to not get the office.
Those that don't tend to not get the office.
People acting like Newsom has suddenly turned anti-trans need to take a step back.
This guy has been one of the strongest pro-LGBTQ governors in the country. He was officiating same-sex marriages way before it was cool. As governor, he signed laws making California a "sanctuary state" for trans kids seeking gender-affirming care. He banned state-funded travel to states with anti-LGBTQ laws. He pushed for inclusive policies in schools and healthcare, and he’s been a loud voice against anti-trans legislation across the country.
So yeah, his new stance on trans athletes is a shift, but let's not pretend he was ever some right-winger on these issues. He’s making a political calculation, not flipping sides.
This guy has been one of the strongest pro-LGBTQ governors in the country. He was officiating same-sex marriages way before it was cool. As governor, he signed laws making California a "sanctuary state" for trans kids seeking gender-affirming care. He banned state-funded travel to states with anti-LGBTQ laws. He pushed for inclusive policies in schools and healthcare, and he’s been a loud voice against anti-trans legislation across the country.
So yeah, his new stance on trans athletes is a shift, but let's not pretend he was ever some right-winger on these issues. He’s making a political calculation, not flipping sides.