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@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 02:18 AM)

Can I just say that right now... I hate the USA?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

There are languages where the days are named for numbers and Sunday is "one". Like Arabic.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 01:31 AM)

Isn't it sort of a religious thing for Sunday to be the start of the week but most people just go with the first day they go to work for the week?

@  unitremover : (20 January 2018 - 01:02 AM)

I feel like I've known plenty of Americans who'd say Monday is the first day of the week.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 12:57 AM)

Personally Monday will always be the first day of the week for me. The notion that Sunday is somehow the first day of the week seems completely nonsensical to me.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2018 - 12:57 AM)

I'm fairly sure it is in Australia, but that tends to get blurred because of US influence.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 12:19 AM)

(It's Sunday here in the U.S.)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 12:18 AM)

Anyone here live in a country where Monday is considered the first day of the week?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 January 2018 - 08:40 PM)

Maybe?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (19 January 2018 - 08:38 PM)

But do they search barf?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Under water, the fish don't stink.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 January 2018 - 07:42 PM)

I read that at first as "Everyone is a fish...."

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2018 - 06:08 PM)

Everyone has a fetish, I guess.

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2018 - 05:56 PM)

I parsed it as "search barf" at first.

@  Nevermore : (19 January 2018 - 05:05 PM)

Robowang nude hiden cam photos

@  Robowang : (19 January 2018 - 02:54 PM)

Oh, hey, that's not the search bar! Whoops.

@  Robowang : (19 January 2018 - 12:48 PM)

reflector camera mode

@  MEDdMI : (19 January 2018 - 12:14 PM)

But did you get a Snowbombcyclopsragnarokdoomstorm like the US NE got last week?

@  Nevermore : (19 January 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Netherlands? We got one hell of a storm here in Germany the other day too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2018 - 01:59 AM)

When that happens in Cocoa Beach there's always someone getting out their surfboard.

@  CORVUS : (19 January 2018 - 12:04 AM)

Damn!

@  Telly : (18 January 2018 - 10:29 PM)

holy hug

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 January 2018 - 06:27 PM)

Goddamn look what happened to the Dutch this week.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 January 2018 - 06:27 PM)

https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/954066379610628097

@  Locoman : (18 January 2018 - 03:43 PM)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand brick and mortar.

@  siccoyote : (18 January 2018 - 04:31 AM)

Who sings the first part of the GIJoe The Movie theme song? (Cobra) Sounds so familiar.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:46 PM)

Also true.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 10:40 PM)

I hate brick and mortar stores around here.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:38 PM)

But I like the feel of the brick and mortar search a bit more. And I can see inside packages at brick and mortar. True, Amazon has a good return policy, but I like buying once and settling.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:37 PM)

I suppose I could save more if I bought more often from Amazon.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 10:36 PM)

Closest I got to "free" was 30% off warpath, which just about lined him up to the canadian price had he ever shown up around me. The pile of loot saved me a pile, but it was still pricy.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:34 PM)

Yeah, I purposefully waited on them because I knew they'd be perfect "add onto orders to get free shipping" fodder. Already gotten two that way. Technically "free" and I barely had to wait.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 09:21 PM)

That's how I feel about Prime Masters. Getting back into collecting last year taught me to be patient, which grants rewards most of the time.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:18 PM)

I want Starscream so hard after seeing him in person, but since he's the one being left behind by every other collector in my area, I feel like I can wait for a sale.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:09 PM)

I mean: I maybe woulda jumped on starscream if I found a sale or something, but it wasn't a priority.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:08 PM)

I only wanted the dinobots (cause... volcanicus.) but got saddled with three I didn't want due to the bundling. I'd still be waiting to order if I had waited on individual figures.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 08:27 PM)

Ahh.. I just ordered the whole case cause I wanted too. :)

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

Mostly PotP dinobots. Plus some stuff I couldn't opt out of to get those dinobots. And CW warpath... cause he was on sale.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 04:54 PM)

What ya getting?

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 04:38 PM)

Yay! My package from BBTS is in canada! I might even get it this week!

@  Benbot : (17 January 2018 - 02:04 PM)

I need a laptop more than a new desktop

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Buying a pre-built computer you should be okay.. It's just the individual parts that jumped huge in price.


Nevermore

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On the topic of scale: Ha-ha, Hasbro, nice trolling everyone

16 January 2018 - 02:49 AM

So, we the fans have spent hours upon hours discussing scale. Good times.

Admittedly, when it comes to Transformers, scale is borked up beyond belief, and has been that way from day 1, but people can still get very passionate about it, and there has always been some minimal understanding of the basic, underlying concept. I mean, even the G1 cartoon typically portrayed Optimus Prime as significantly larger than most of the other Autobots, because he turns into a truck cab while mostly everyone else initially turned into cars. So whenever you'd get a Deluxe-sized Optimus Prime toy, he'd be out of scale with, say, a Deluxe-sized Bumblebee toy.

Hasbro has been traditionally rather iffy about the subject, but usually still acknowledged it to some degree by releasing toys of Optimus Prime at a larger price point than, say, Bumblebee, so they'd be at least vaguely in scale with each other. Admittedly, there have been some weird goofs in the past, such as the messed up scale within combiner teams (remember that infamous fan art of Bruticus being drawn to scale?), or all Action Masters being presented as being the same size in fiction (so even Bumblebee and friggin' Devastator are the same size!). Or how about the ROTF "Fury of Fearswoop" set, where a Deluxe-sized Decepticon fighter jet is released in a set with two Legends (now "Legion") Autobot cars, which would be more or less to scale... except the bio on the back of the packaging explicitly points out the large size of the Decepticon as something out of the ordinary.

So anyway, the term "scale" has always been used to refer to a size ratio, it was usually the alternate modes and their real-life counterparts that were used as a reference point, and it was generally accepted by both Hasbro and the fans that not all Transformers are created equal, i.e. not all of them are the same size in-fiction.


Well. That was oldspeak. Enter newspeak.

For a few years now, Hasbro has been using the term "scale" explicitly to refer to toy size classes (aka "price points").

https://www.hasbro.c...D0-EE05A1B48B91

Each Combiner robot build starts with a Voyager Scale Combiner Wars figure as the torso. Add any 4 Deluxe Scale Combiner Wars figures like this one to form the arms and legs and create your own gigantic Combiner. Gear up for battle with a Legends Scale Combiner Wars figure that becomes either weaponry or armor. Yes -- that is up to 6 Transformers bots combining into 1 unstoppable super robot. You're welcome.
Deluxe, Voyager, and Legends Scale Combiner Wars figures are each sold separately (subject to availability), and not all Legends Scale Combiner Wars figures can become weapons or armor. Look for the label on Legends Scale figure packs or see the online product description for more info.


http://pulse.hasbro....nger-brake-neck

By using a simple mechanism we make it possible for fans to create any combination they choose using Voyager and Deluxe scale Transformers.
[...]
From a product perspective, we wanted to try to create "big" versions of the popular Combiner Gestalts like Superion, Menasor and Defensor, and we worked really hard internally with our marketing partners to create a plan that let fans combine Deluxe, Voyager and Legends scale figures together.


http://files.shareho...escriptions.pdf

The large, feature-packed LEADER scale action figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character, like SKY WARP, and features a firing projectile, massive weaponry and working vehicle features.
[...]
The biggest figure is Titan Scale FORTRESS MAXIMUS, the largest figure in the TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS TITANS RETURN line and one of the largest converting TRANSFORMERS toys!


https://www.hasbro.c...B0-2645C8D6FA0D

Transformers Generations Titans Return Legends Class figures are 3.75-inch scale figures.
[...]
Figure scale: 3.75 inches



That's not what "scale" means, you idiots!

Simply put, "scale" refers to a ratio (you always need a reference point to determine a scale), whereas Hasbro is using it as an absolute.


Naturally, fans have started to parrot the Hasbro lingo and are now referring to toys as "Legends scale", "Deluxe scale" etc., thereby forever obscuring the original meaning of the term.

What do you mean "Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are out of scale"? They're the same scale! They're both Legion scale!

Titans Return complete Titan Masters and vehicles list including retools and redecos

29 December 2017 - 11:49 AM

Similar to "The math of Combiner Wars, part 2: List of all versions", this is supposed to be a complete list of all releases of these figures. I'll start with the Titan Masters, including TLK Cogman!


Titan Masters

Sculpt #1: Nightbeat
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Nightbeat (Nightbeat face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 28 Rewind & Nightbeat: Nightbeat (Nightbeat face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends LG 57 Octone: Ghost Starscream (Starscream face)

Sculpt #2: Siren
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Loudmouth (Siren face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 29 Wheelie & Goshooter: Goshooter (Siren face)

Sculpt #3: Squeezeplay
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Crashbash (Squeezeplay face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 24 Shockwave & Cancer: Cancer (Squeezeplay face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Clobber (Grimlock face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Overboard (Squeezeplay face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Legends Wonder Festival 2017 exclusive LG EX Headmaster Set: Grimlock (Grimlock face)

Sculpt #4: Horri-Bull
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Terri-Bull (Horri-Bull face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 37 Jaguar/Ravage & Bullhorn: Bullhorn (Horri-Bull face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Skytread (Flywheels face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends Wonder Festival 2017 exclusive LG EX Headmaster Set: Flywheel (Flywheels face)

Sculpt #5: Duros
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 1 Furos & Hardhead: Furos (Hardhead G1 toy face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 21 Hardhead: Ros (Hardhead Headmasters anime face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 4 Chasm & Quake: Chasm (Quake face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends Wonder Festival 2017 exclusive LG EX Headmaster Set: Hardhead (Hardhead G1 toy face)

Sculpt #6: Haywire
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 1 Hyperfire & Blurr: Hyperfire ("Titan Master" head, Blurr face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 25 Blurr ("Titan Master" head, Blurr face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 2 Autobot Stylor & Chromedome: Autobot Stylor ("Titan Master" head, Chromedome IDW More than Meets the Eye comic face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 32 Chromedome: Chrome ("Titan Master" head, Chromedome Headmasters anime face)
Version 5: Hasbro Titans Return San Diego Comic-Con 2016/Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Titan Force: Autobot Teslor ("Titan Master" head, Brainstorm IDW More than Meets the Eye comic face)
Version 6: Hasbro Titans Return Walgreens exclusive Deluxe Class Autobot Teslor & Brainstorm ("Titan Master" head, Brainstorm IDW More than Meets the Eye comic face)
Version 7: TakaraTomy Legends LG 39 Brainstorm: Cana ("Titan Master" head, Brainstorm Headmasters anime face)
Version 8: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 3 Autobot Throttle & Autobot Breakaway: Autobot Throttle ("Titan Master" head, Getaway face)
Version 9: Hasbro Titans Return Toys"R"Us exclusive Chaos on Velocitron: Parsec ("Titan Master" head, Nautica face)
Version 10: Hasbro Titans Return Hasbro Toy Shop/Toys"R"Us exclusive Leinad & Arcee & Ultra Magnus: Leinad ("exo-suit" head, Arcee face)
Version 11: TakaraTomy Legends Wonder Festival 2017 exclusive LG EX Headmaster Set: Chromedome ("Titan Master" head, Chromedome IDW More than Meets the Eye comic face)
Version 12: TakaraTomy Legends Wonder Festival 2017 exclusive LG EX Headmaster Set: Brainstorm ("Titan Master" head, Brainstorm IDW More than Meets the Eye comic face)

Sculpt #7: Nightstick
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 1 Fracas & Scourge: Fracas (G1 Nightstick toy head, arms and lower legs, Scourge face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 26 Scourge (G1 Nightstick toy head, arms and legs, Scourge face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 2 Xort & Highbrow: Xort (G1 Gort head, G1 Nightstick toy arms and lower legs, Highbrow G1 cartoon Rebirth/Marvel comic face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 33 Highbrow: Gorter (G1 Gort head, G1 Nightstick toy arms and lower legs, Highbrow Headmasters anime face)
Version 5: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 5 Scorchfire & Windblade: Scorchfire ("Scorchfire" head, arms and lower legs, Windblade face)
Version 6: TakaraTomy Legends LG 44 Sharktron & Sweeps/Sharkticon: Sweeps (G1 Nightstick toy head, arms and lower legs, Sweep face)
Version 7: TakaraTomy Legends LG 62 Targetmaster Windblade ("Scorchfire" head, arms and lower legs, Windblade face)

Sculpt #8: Grax
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 1 Grax & Skullsmasher: Grax (Skullcruncher vaguely G1 toy-inspired face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 22 Skull/Skullcruncher: Grax (Skullcruncher Headmasters anime face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 4 Gatorface & Decepticon Krok: Gatorface (Krok face)

Sculpt #9: Megatron
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 1 Nucleon & Galvatron: Nucleon (vaguely G1 Galvatron toy-inspired face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends LG 23 Galvatron: Megatron (vaguely G1 Galvatron toy-inspired face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends e-Hobby exclusive LG EX Convobat: Megalligator (vaguely G1 Galvatron toy-inspired face)

Sculpt #10: Sentinel Prime
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 1 Autobot Infinitus & Sentinel Prime: Autobot Infinitus (Sentinel Prime face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return San Diego Comic-Con 2016/Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Titan Force: Autobot Infinitus (Sentinel Prime face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends e-Hobby exclusive LG EX Convobat (Sentinel Prime face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 2 Darkmoon & Astrotrain: Darkmoon (Astrotrain face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Legends LG 40 Astrotrain (Astrotrain face)
Version 6: TakaraTomy Legends LG 41 Leo Prime (Sentinel Prime face)

Sculpt #11: Hi-Q
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Leader Class wave 1 Autobot Apex & Powermaster Optimus Prime: Autobot Apex (mouthplate-less Optimus Prime face)
Version 2: Hasbro Primitive Optimus Prime & Shreddicus Maximus: Shreddicus Maximus (mouthplate-less Optimus Prime face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends LG 35 Super Ginrai: Ginrai (mouthplate-bearing Optimus Prime face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Big Bad Toy Store exclusive Siege on Cybertron: Ginrai (mouthplate-bearing Optimus Prime face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Legends TakaraTomy Mall exclusive LG EX God Ginrai: Ginrai (mouthplate-bearing Optimus Prime face)

Sculpt #12: Blaster/Soundwave
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Leader Class wave 1 Twin Cast & Autobot Blaster: Twin Cast (Blaster torso and head, Blaster face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 27 Broadcast/Blaster: Twincast (Blaster torso and head, Blaster face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Leader Class wave 2 Soundblaster & Soundwave: Soundblaster (Soundwave torso and head, Soundwave face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 36 Soundwave: Soundblaster (Soundwave torso and head, Soundwave face)

Sculpt #13: Spike (Hasbro version)
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Class wave 1 Emissary & Cerebros & Fortress Maximus: Emissary (Cerebros G1 cartoon Rebirth/Marvel comic face, Hasbro version)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return San Diego Comic-Con 2016/Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Fortress Maximus Convention Edition: Emissary (Cerebros G1 toy/Headmasters anime face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends LG 31 Fortress Maximus: Fortress (Cerebros G1 toy/Headmasters anime face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Transformers & Downtown No Gaki No Tsukai Ya Arahende! Crossover: Donarimasu (Donarimasu face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Transformers & Downtown No Gaki No Tsukai Ya Arahende! Crossover: Guchirimasu (Guchirimasu face)
Version 6: TakaraTomy Legends TakaraTomy Mall exclusive LG-EX Grand Maximus: Gran (Cerebros G1 toy/Headmasters anime face)

Sculpt #14: Apeface
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Apeface (Apeface face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 38 Condor/Laserbeak & Apeface: Apeface (Apeface face)

Sculpt #15: Brawn
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Brawn (Brawn face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends Wonder Festival 2017 exclusive LG EX Headmaster Set: Gong (Brawn face)

Sculpt #16: Vorath
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 2 Vorath & Mindwipe: Vorath (vaguely G1 Mindwipe toy-inspired face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 34 Wipe/Mindwipe: Vorath (Mindwipe Headmasters anime face)

Sculpt #17: Monzo
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 2 Monxo & Wolfwire: Monxo (vaguely G1 Weirdwolf toy-inspired face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 30 Weirdwolf: Monzo (Weirdwolf Headmasters anime face)

Sculpt #18: Beta Maxx/Cybertron Safeguard
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 2 Autobot Sovereign & Alpha Trion: Autobot Sovereign (Alpha Trion face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 4 Blunderbuss & Broadside: Blunderbuss (Broadside face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends LG 53 Broadside (Broadside face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Big Bad Toy Store exclusive Siege on Cybertron: Fathom (Tidal Wave face)

Sculpt #19: Brisko
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Fangry (plastic torso, Fangry face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return Big Bad Toy Store exclusive Siege on Cybertron: Thunderwing (diecast metal torso, Thunderwing face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Hasbro Toy Shop/Toys"R"Us exclusive Leinad & Arcee & Ultra Magnus: Ultra Magnus (diecast metal torso, Ultra Magnus face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Hasbro Toy Shop/Toys"R"Us exclusive Fengul & Grotusque & Scorponok: Scorponok (diecast metal torso, Scorponok face)

Sculpt #20: Swoop
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Autobot Ptero (plastic torso, Swoop face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return Toys"R"Us exclusive Chaos on Velocitron: Rodimus Prime (diecast metal torso, Rodimus Prime face)

Sculpt #21: Lione
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Sawback (Lione face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 64 Seaspray & Lione: Lione (Lione face)

Sculpt #22: Firebolt
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 3 Firedrive & Autobot Hot Rod: Firedrive (Hot Rod face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 45 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus/Hot Rod (Hot Rod face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Street Fighter II × Transformers Ken vs Chun-Li: Ken (Hot Rod face)

Sculpt #23: White Leo
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 3 Daburu & Autobot Twinferno: Daburu ("White Leo" head, Doublecross face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 51 Targetmaster Doublecross: White Leo ("White Leo" head, Doublecross face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Hasbro Toy Shop/Toys"R"Us exclusive Fengul & Grotusque & Scorponok: Fengul ("Platinum Tiger" head, Grotusque face)

Sculpt #24: Blowpipe
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 3 Blowpipe & Triggerhappy: Blowpipe (Triggerhappy face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 49 Targetmaster Triggerharpy/Triggerhappy (Triggerhappy face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Big Bad Toy Store exclusive Siege on Cybertron: Professor Go (Metalhawk face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 4 Aimless & Misfire: Aimless (Misfire face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Legends LG 52 Targetmaster Misfire (Misfire face)
Version 6: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 6 Caliburst & Slugslinger: Caliburst (Slugslinger face)
Version 7: TakaraTomy Legends LG 55 Targetmaster Slugslinger (Slugslinger face)

Sculpt #25: Diaclone pilot
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 3 Diac & Optimus Prime: Diac (Generation 2 Laser Optimus Prime face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends Tokyo Toy Show 2017 exclusive LG-EX Black Convoy (Generation 2 Laser Optimus Prime face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Toys"R"Us exclusive Chaos on Velocitron: Refractor (Generation 2 Laser Optimus Prime face)
Version 4: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 5 Murk & Decepticon Octone: Murk (Octane face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Legends LG 57 Octone (Octane face)
Version 6: TakaraTomy Street Fighter II × Transformers Ryu vs Vega: Ryu (Generation 2 Laser Optimus Prime face)

Sculpt #26: Blitzwing
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 3 Doomshot & Megatron: Doomshot (Megatron face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 63 G2 Megatron (Megatron face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Voyager Class wave 5 Decepticon Hazard & Blitzwing: Decepticon Hazard (Blitzwing face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 59 Blitzwing (Blitzwing face)
Version 5: TakaraTomy Street Fighter II × Transformers Ryu vs Vega: Vega (Megatron face)

Sculpt #27: Jack
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Leader Class wave 3 Decepticon Revolver & Six Shot: Decepticon Revolver (Sixshot G1 toy face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return Toys"R"Us exclusive Chaos on Velocitron: Dynamus (Quickswitch face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends TakaraTomy Mall exclusive LG-EX Greatshot (Greatshot face)

Sculpt #28: Sixshot
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends LG 50 Sixshot (Sixshot Headmasters anime face)

Sculpt #29: Repugnus
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 4 Repugnus (Repugnus face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 48 Gong & Repug/Brawn & Repugnus: Repug/Repugnus (Repugnus face)

Sculpt #30: Shuffler/Ramhorn
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 4 Autobot Shuffler ("elephant" head, Shuffler face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 5 Ramhorn ("rhino" head, unreleased rhino Autobot Master Warrior face)
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends LG 47 Kickback & Clouder/Double-Dealer: Clouder/Double-Dealer ("rhino" head, unreleased rhino Autobot Master Warrior face)

Sculpt #31: Freezout/Flameout
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 4 Freezeout & Autobot Topspin: Freezeout (Topspin face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 66 Targetmaster Topspin (Topspin face)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 5 Flameout & Twin Twist: Flameout (Twin Twist face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 65 Targetmaster Twin Twist (Twin Twist face)

Sculpt #32: Perceptor
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 4 Convex & Perceptor: Convex (Perceptor face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 56 Perceptor (Perceptor face)

Sculpt #33: Recoil
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Deluxe Class wave 4 Flintlock & Sergeant Kup: Flintlock (Kup IDW All Hail Megatron face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 46 Targetmaster Chear/ Kup (Kup G1 cartoon face)
Version 3: Hasbro Transformers Tribute Optimus Prime & Orion Pax Evolution Pack: Orion Pax (Orion Pax face)
Version 4: TakaraTomy The Last Knight TLK-EX Optimus Prime & Orion Pax 2 figure set: Orion Pax (Orion Pax face)

Sculpt #34: Mega/Giga (Hasbro version)
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Leader Class wave 4 Ominus & Sky Shadow: Ominus (Mega head, arms and lower legs, Black Shadow face)
Version 2: Hasbro Titans Return Leader Class wave 5 Dreadnaut & Decepticon Overlord: Dreadnaut (Giga head, arms and lower legs, Overlord Hasbro face)

Sculpt #35: Godbomber headmaster
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends LG 42 Godbomber (Godbomber face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends TakaraTomy Mall exclusive LG EX God Ginrai: Godbomber (Godbomber face)

Sculpt #36: Wipe-Out
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Class wave 2 Decepticon Necro & Decepticon Full-Tilt & Trypticon: Decepticon Necro (Full-Tilt face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 43 Dinosaurer/Trypticon: Full-Tilt (Full-Tilt face)

Sculpt #37: Giga (TakaraTomy version)
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends LG 60 Overlord: Giga (Overlord "masculine" head)

Sculpt #38: Mega (TakaraTomy version)
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends LG 60 Overlord: Mega (Overlord "feminine" head)

Sculpt #39: Cogman
Version 1: Hasbro The Last Knight Premier Edition Deluxe Class wave 4 Cogman (Cogman face)
Version 2: TakaraTomy The Last Knight TLK-29 Cogman (Cogman face)

Sculpt #40: Minerva
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends TakaraTomy Mall exclusive LG EX God Ginrai: Minerva (Minerva face)

Sculpt #41: Cab
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends TakaraTomy Mall exclusive LG EX God Ginrai: Cab (Minerva face)

Sculpt #42: Spike (TakaraTomy version)
Version 1: TakaraTomy Legends LG 54 Bumble & Excel Suit Spike: Excel Suit Spike (Cerebros G1 cartoon Rebirth/Marvel comic face, TakaraTomy version)




Titan Master vehicles

Sculpt #1: Jet/drill tank/drill weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Nightbeat
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 32 Chromedome: Moguru

Sculpt #2: Hovercar/tank/weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Loudmouth
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 33 Highbrow: Cargot

Sculpt #3: Dragon/dinosaur/weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Crashbash
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 22 Skull/Skullcruncher: Butla
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Clobber
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 34 Wipe/Mindwipe: Servant
Version 5: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Overboard

Sculpt #4: Tank/jet/weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 1 Terri-Bull
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 21 Hardhead: Tankette
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Skytread

Sculpt #5: Gorilla/jet/weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Apeface
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 30 Weirdwolf: Rarigo
Version 3: TakaraTomy Legends e-Hobby exclusive LG EX Convobat: Ape X Arms

Sculpt #6: Hoverbike/caterpillar-tracked Jeep/weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 2 Brawn
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 39 Brainstorm: Synapse

Sculpt #7: Dragon/winged wolf/weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Fangry
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 63 G2 Megatron: Noble

Sculpt #8: Gun-nosecone jet/pteranodon/crossbow weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Autobot Ptero

Sculpt #9: Jet/lion/shield
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 3 Sawback

Sculpt #10: Jet/Repugnus bug monster/blade weapon
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 4 Repugnus
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 53 Broadside: Repug Armor

Sculpt #11: Tank/elephant/rhino/multi-rocket launching system
Version 1: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 4 Autobot Shuffler (elephant mode)
Version 2: TakaraTomy Legends LG 59 Blitzwing: Bigfight (elephant mode)
Version 3: Hasbro Titans Return Titan Masters wave 5 Ramhorn (rhino mode)
Version 4: TakaraTomy Legends LG 56 Perceptor: Amhorn (rhino mode)



Did I miss any?

Bumblebee Movie toyline discussion - Tiny Turbo Changers confirmed

28 December 2017 - 07:42 PM

Listed at Otto Simon from the Netherlands:
https://www.ottosimo...ngers-439--0692

Rumor mill: Hasbro to acquire TakaraTomy?

08 November 2017 - 07:36 PM

https://seekingalpha...sbros-gunsights

Hahahahahahaha. Ahahahahahahahaha.

EDIT: Wait. I've fallen for Seibertron reporting a months-old story from elsewhere.

Distribution problems, international availability and exclusives

28 October 2017 - 05:52 AM

Spawned off from a point I brought up in the TFWiki thread:
 
Okay, bear with me folks, this is going to be a complicated multi-faceted topic.

About twenty years ago, it was very straightforward: The United States was Hasbro's primary market when it came to Transformers toys, and all the other international markets were afterthoughts. Toys would usually come out in the US first, then everywhere else, if at all. Meanwhile, international markets often wouldn't get the later waves of a line, because again: US first, evenything else is an afterthought. Also, it appears stores in other countries didn't quite comprehend the whole "wave" system that was a completely foreign concept to them. Store exclusives were also a US-only thing at first, and anyone not living in the US would never be able to get their hands on them other than through expensive imports.

This situation gradually changed. Hasbro's Asian markets started to become more relevant around the turn of the millennium, eventually leading to the situation where new waves would often become available in Asia first before arriving at US retail roughly a month later. Still, this was only a minor change in the system that everyone could adapt to.

About ten years ago, Hasbro decided to make store exclusives available internationally as well. It started with Toys"R"Us exclusives, because if they have a deal with TRU, why shouldn't TRU be able to sell its exclusives in all the countries that have a TRU branch?

A few years ago, Hasbro then decided to make other store exclusives available internationally as well. First it was Walmart exclusives at Walmart Canada, but eventually, they also began to offer figures and sets that were exclusive to one chain in the US to an entirely different chain in another country, with neither chain existing in the other country. For a while, it was an "also available" situation, with most people in the US being none the wiser, though sometimes resulting in surprised reactions (occasionally turning into outright anger, because some people apparently cannot deal rationally with unexpected situations) upon discovering that a toy that was supposedly a Target exclusive was available at Argos in the United Kingdom (where the are no Target stores).

In addition, some toys that are store exclusives in the United States (and Canada, Australia and Europe) are actually available at general retail (i.e. not exclusive to any particular chain) in Hasbro's Asian markets.

Eventually, what was once a rare occurrence worth marking in the calendar became a regular thing: Toys being sighted in international markets (not just Asia, but also Australia, Canada or Europe) before they would ever appear at retail in the United States. Sometimes months earlier. Around the same time, "tail end of the line/of the assortment" syndrome became a recurring thing as well, to the point where there have been numerous toys that never saw a normal release in the US but were widely available in a multitude of other markets. Sometimes these toys wouldn't be available at the major retailers, but would appear at discounters such as TJ Maxx, Ross and the likes. Sometimes these toys were still regularly available from US-based online retailers like Amazon, BBTS, Entertainment Earth or even the online storefronts of retailers such as TRU, Target or Walmart, but sometimes toys weren't even made available through these official US venues, so the figures in question really remain "unreleased" as far the US are concerned despite being available elsewhere.

On top of that, the situation with exclusive figures has become more and more complicated. The following situations have occurred more than once:
  • Toys that were officially announced as store exclusives for the US were released as exclusives to other stores in several international markets, but were ultimately never available through the US venue that was officially announced by Hasbro.
  • Toys that were officially announced as store exclusives for the US were released as exclusives to other stores in several international markets months before becoming available through the US venue that was officially announced by Hasbro.
  • Exclusives were only ever available through the US retailer's online store but were never found in brick and mortar stores.
All of that, coupled with people now buying their toys online rather than putting themselves through the stress of searching for toys at retail only to come back empty-handed, people not being able to constantly keep up with the latest toy release news, and people still operating under the assumption that the toy industry in general, and Transformers in particular, works the same way as it did 20 years ago despite some occasional hiccups, has led to the following phenomena:
  • The infamous "saw this last week/month at my local store, didn't think it was newsworthy" reaction to new toy sightings.
  • The equally infamous "has anyone seen toy X yet?" question being repeated over and over again despite pages upon pages of other people continually voicing their frustration about said toy still being AWOL.
  • People in other countries being surprised that certain figures that are shelfwarming at their local stores being considered "rare", or haven't even been found at all yet in the United States.
  • People who imported a figure months ago being surprised upon learning that said figure still hasn't been released in the US.
  • Keep in mind this is not supposed to be a rant, I'm not complaining about people being unaware of what is available where, I'm just trying to understand and explain the bigger picture which most people aren't able to see because their minds are trained to view everything from a wherever-they-live-centric perspective.