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@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2019 - 02:55 PM)

I got stabbed in the eyelid by a mudwasp, pulled down a tree, and then got ice cream. You know, all told: not a bad day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 October 2019 - 09:17 AM)

Burrunjor

@  Paladin : (15 October 2019 - 08:04 AM)

your mom.

@  Benbot : (15 October 2019 - 08:02 AM)

What's your favorite Paleolithic megafauna?

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:06 PM)

Together with the Rhino G1 sets, probably the most expensive DVDs I ever bought

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:01 PM)

I've still got the age-old Rhino sets

@  Telly : (14 October 2019 - 09:09 PM)

i didnt find that at any of the ones around here, so i had to settle for seasons 1 and 2 of duckman for $3

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 07:45 PM)

Heck, I got the season 2/3 set for $3 (?) from a Dollar General discount bin :p

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 07:29 PM)

The series is pretty cheap on DVD, too, which at least will work internet or no. The complete series set seems to be OOP, but there's a Season 1 set as well as a combined 2 & 3 set.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Woot! Beast wars!

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 06:08 PM)

Yay! Tubi now has the first season of Rescue Bots and the full run of Beast Wars FINALLY available.

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 02:16 PM)

Just like me in a game of Civilization. Don't have gunpowder? Time for your cities to burn.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 01:51 PM)

He dubbed the peoples that saw him as bad news cannibals and savages before enslaving and wiping them out too.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 01:40 PM)

And if they had been unfriendly: he would have simply slaughtered them with diseases they couldn't fight, and technology they couldn't match until they as a people did not exist. There's something about european backgrounds that drive us to exploit.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 11:02 AM)

He described the peoples he encountered as some of the most friendly and giving in the world, so naturally, he ate all their food, enslaved them and put them to work looking for gold that did not exist, until they as a people did not exist.

@  Paladin : (14 October 2019 - 09:57 AM)

he landed by coincidence in front of long-term residents.

@  Sabrblade : (14 October 2019 - 09:55 AM)

He said the world was round-o! (He said the world was round-o!) He said it could be found-o! (He said it could be found-o!) That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo! (That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo!)

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 09:22 AM)

In the year 1492, Columbus gave us the day off skoo

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2019 - 08:59 AM)

How often do people actually celebrate Columbus or the Pilgrims? Usually it just feels like celebrating the first break in the school year and a nice dinner with the family.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 08:29 AM)

You've got like two more weeks until the american thanksgiving. Canadian thanksgiving is literally a harvest festival.

@  CVReynolds : (14 October 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Hey, everyone. Come together to enjoy this national holiday made to celebrate a mass-murderer who never set foot in the USA. What fun!

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 07:25 AM)

that's perfect!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 October 2019 - 02:22 AM)

A school-bus combiner called Valedictorion.

@  TriBlurr : (13 October 2019 - 12:16 AM)

Honor-Roll

@  Arazyr : (11 October 2019 - 08:18 AM)

I like that one.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 October 2019 - 10:39 PM)

Oh, how about Dropout?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (09 October 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm beginning to put together The TF Roll Out Short Hot Rod's Presentation!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 October 2019 - 02:35 PM)

Truant.

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 October 2019 - 12:26 PM)

Haslab Unicron may change the direction of Cyberverse or the netflix series.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 October 2019 - 11:31 AM)

Bluecheesewagon

@  Benbot : (09 October 2019 - 07:09 AM)

Those are too friendly--what if he was a Decepticon?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 October 2019 - 07:23 PM)

Cheesewagon

@  Dekafox : (08 October 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Bus-Top has a very GoBot vibe

@  Bass X0 : (08 October 2019 - 10:51 AM)

I actually never heard of the name Megalodon until recently.

@  Noideaforaname : (08 October 2019 - 09:44 AM)

Bus-Top, Omnibus, Cerebus, Busicus, Busicon

@  unluckiness : (08 October 2019 - 09:32 AM)

Otto

@  unluckiness : (08 October 2019 - 09:32 AM)

Frizzle

@  Dekafox : (08 October 2019 - 09:10 AM)

Crankshaft?

@  Benbot : (08 October 2019 - 08:55 AM)

What's a good name for a school bus Transformer?

@  lastmaximal : (08 October 2019 - 12:57 AM)

Huh. There's a neat name for Beast Hunters Sharkticon Megs.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 October 2019 - 11:44 AM)

It's a submarine, we swear!

@  Otaku : (07 October 2019 - 11:26 AM)

@Bass X0 Letting myself comment to say "That's a good one!" and ask "Would a megalodon be a good fit for Megatron?"

@  Benbot : (07 October 2019 - 07:59 AM)

Ohhh good one

@  Bass X0 : (07 October 2019 - 07:39 AM)

I now want a Decepticon shark called Megalotron.

@  TriBlurr : (06 October 2019 - 05:47 PM)

Gives them time to screw up the color of his hands. :p

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 October 2019 - 12:33 PM)

His bulk is too great to teleport across such distances.

@  Sabrblade : (06 October 2019 - 11:09 AM)

Cuz it'll take that long to mass produce.

@  Darth Gonzo : (06 October 2019 - 10:47 AM)

Why is Unicron coming in 2021 and not 2020?

@  wonko the sane? : (06 October 2019 - 06:47 AM)

Shut up rattrap.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (05 October 2019 - 11:58 PM)

We're all gonna die!


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#1 Kalidor

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 12:07 AM

Over the years The Allspark has striven to provide a fun and fair atmosphere for its userbase. We've gone out of our way to moderate the forums in a fair and consistent manner free of personal bias and power abuse from the staff. This worked well for a while but over time the system's flaws became apparent in that we were being too lenient to disruptive behavior and too flexible in our interpretations of the rules allowing users to continue to cause harm to the community that should have, by all rights, been banned long before the problems became as severe as they had.

 

Of the feedback we've received from many members in good standing, the most disturbing was that people were leaving the forums due to the negative atmosphere caused by persistent problem users that seemed to regularly escape reprimand and skirt the letter of the rules. As such, effective immediately our policies and warning system have changed. Any user in good standing who had warning points prior to Feb 22, 2014 has had those warning points removed. Any user who was banned prior to that same date may petition for reinstatement, but in such cases The Allspark will not reach out to such users and reinstatement is by no means guaranteed.

We now have a "three strikes then you're out" policy. That is, if users break the rules they will receive a warning. Each user is allowed 3 fair warnings and will have to acknowledge the warning before being allowed to post again. Upon the 4th and final warning the user is banned permanently from The Allspark.

Here are some things to keep in mind:


1. How many warnings do I get?
2. What can I get warned for?
3. Can I create another account if my first one gets banned?
4. Will my banned account be reopened? What if I beg and plead and bribe?
5. Do you ever reduce warning levels?
6. So if I get banned, and my account can't be reopened, how do I know when I'm close to being banned so I can be good?


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1. How many warnings do I get?

We allow each user three warnings. On the fourth warning your account will be banned permanently. Some offenses will result in an instant ban or two warnings, but most result in one warning.

2. What can I get warned for?

There is a pretty extensive list above on the forum rules as well as on the Terms and Conditions. The short list is flaming, trolling, spamming, bypassing the auto censor, posting links to illegal material, talking about illegal activities, and generally anything we deem inappropriate or disruptive to these forums.

A temporary disabling or suspension of posting is usually given along with a warning. This is at the discretion of the moderator giving the warning.

Attempting to bypass a suspension in any way will result in an additional warning to your account and thus a longer suspension.

The PM system is available to temporarily disabled accounts, and thus you may PM a moderator during that time to discuss your warning or your suspension should you disagree. If you do contest a warning, be sure to do so in a polite manner. Flaming a moderator via PM will gain you an additional warning on your account.
If the PM system is not available, please contact [email protected]

3. Can I create another account if my first one gets banned?

No. Any new accounts that we can reasonably link to your old account will be banned upon sight.

4. Will my banned account be reopened? What if I beg and plead and bribe?

No amount of begging, pleading, or bribing will convince us to reopen your account. Once its banned, its banned forever.

5. Do you ever reduce warning levels?

After six months of good behavior a member can petition to have their warning level reduced. To do this you need to PM a moderator who has warned you, preferably the moderator who gave you your most recent warning. However, if the moderator(s) who warned you have since left, or it’s been at least a week since they were active, you may message another mod or e-mail [email protected] directly.

Please be patient with these requests and do not expect an immediate reply. It may take several days to make a decision, especially if the person you contacted is conferring with other moderators. Also realize that a warning reduction isn’t guaranteed. At least six months must have passed since your last warning or warning reduction. However even if you haven’t received any warnings a moderator may decide that you’ve continued to cause problems.

Some warnings will generally not be reduced.
If you are warned for something such as porn or racial slurs, you may not be eligible for a warn reduction.

A moderator may also decide that an offense not mentioned here was egregious enough that it shouldn’t be reduced.

If a reduction is declined without further explanation it's because we feel you have continued to cause problems on the forums. In this case we suggest cleaning up your act and trying again in six months.

If a member has continued good behavior we will happily consider additional warning reductions over time. However members who get warnings after reductions, particularly if they go back and forth, are far less likely to get further reductions. This does not mean that you can't ask for a reduction, but be aware that we're less likely to approve them.

6. So if I get banned, and my account can't be reopened, how do I know when I'm close to being banned so I can be good?

Here's where the warn level under your avatar comes in. First, all of the moderators and administrators can see everyone's warn level. You are the only non-moderator member that can see your warn level no one else can.

Every member on these forums has a warn level, not just those that have been warned once.

The warn level shows the number of warning points you have. Clicking on it gives details of your warning level, including the moderators who issued the warnings and the reason for them.

Note: It’s not nice to PM the moderators about old warnings, especially if all you’re going to do is tell them they suck for warning you. If you PM the moderators about past warnings and give them lip, they will warn you again.

We also send a PM for every warning sanctioned. If your PM box is full you won't receive the PM, but you will still receive the warning. If you have questions about new warnings received, you can civilly contact the moderator who warned you or any of the administrators.

 



#2 Ironbite

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 12:14 AM

I....LOVE IT!


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#3 Radical Good Speed

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 12:36 AM

Yes, good.


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#4 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:14 AM

Will the User Warning Logs ever be made visible again? I thought it was good to be able to see what people have done wrong.

#5 Kalidor

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 09:08 AM

No. We feel the rules are clear enough.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 10:32 AM

Ca you elaborate on "illegal activities"? Are these in the sense of a mod lives in a state where smoking pot is illegal and I post that I like to smoke weed, will I be warned? What about video game discussions such as MAME emulators? Or I just posted that I intend to deface election posters up here, is that warnable?

 

Did I just post the trifecta and should I expect a banning any moment? :D



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 10:38 AM

Is there any change to how things are currently on 'illegal activities'?

 

As that sort of topic is a frequent one in P&R, and is something that is talked about from various viewpoints, but never on a simplistic level like 'TAKE DRUGS CHILDREN!!'.

 

Then there's things like the Krokodil thread. I was among those who, from what I remember, were attempting to explain in the thread that the problem wasn't the drug itself, but the way it was being made. THAT is what was causing all the horrific damage, not simply the drug itself. Would that sort of clarification now have a different meaning rules-wise? As while we were explaining it, we were absolutely NOT advocating its use, and never would, unless you know, we're talking about in a hospital setting on the real drug, if that was applicable. It wasn't a case of being pro-drug, just helping others to understand the real issues involved.



#8 Kalidor

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:06 AM

It's mostly to prevent people from promoting criminal acts and/or piracy and such. Saying you did a drug isn't going to get you warned per se, but posting where you can buy drugs probably would. Discussing in the context of news and current events, legislation, etc is okay as well.



#9 Ironbite

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:13 AM

Oh the warning logs are gone?  That's kinda disappointing.

 

Ironbite-I understand why you'd make that section invisible but I kinda like seeing my sins for all to see.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:16 AM

That still leaves some vagueness in the scenarios I proposed, for example...

 

Poster: I live in colerado, you can buy pot at this place and that place

Mod: I live in texas where smoking weed gets the death penalty.

Warned/banned?

 

Or as I mentioned, I made a post with clear intent of defacing election posters for a local nazi pa... err parti quebecois and other acts of graffiti and vandalism. Would that be considered an offence?

 

 

 

Oh the warning logs are gone?  That's kinda disappointing.

 

Ironbite-I understand why you'd make that section invisible but I kinda like seeing my sins for all to see.

 

Made for some great bathroom reading... and I got a poop brewing with nothing to read now. 


Edited by X-Warlock, 05 March 2014 - 11:19 AM.


#11 Kalidor

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:24 AM

Yup, it's vague but that's part of the overwall change. We aren't going to be a stickler for the letter of the rule. We're going to use our common sense and context of each post and act accordingly. We've gone too long letting stuff fly under "Well... it doesn't *technically* break a rule." but at the same time if we see something questionable or something gets reported then we'll determine the case.

 

I'm not going to go out of my way to kill legitimate discussions, but if I see anything I think would get me in legal trouble then it's getting nixed.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:32 AM

We're going to use our common sense and context of each post and act accordingly.

That hasn't exactly worked out so well for me in the past... Can think of at least one point where I was unfairly targeted and warned yet the baiters/haters got nothing. One man's common sense can easily be another's blind spot.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:40 AM

It's mostly to prevent people from promoting criminal acts and/or piracy and such. Saying you did a drug isn't going to get you warned per se, but posting where you can buy drugs probably would. Discussing in the context of news and current events, legislation, etc is okay as well.

 

Cool, thanks. Pretty much every time i can think of, it's been news-related, eg the closure of Silk Road and the related arrests and drama, then that hey, surprise surprise, 2.0 is already up and running.

 

But that's in the context of news, and news reports. Fact is that by the time it's mentioned as news, it's been operating comfortably 'off the radar' for some time. And by the time people like me read it in an article, the real users of it have known for months.

 

Not to mention I can't give specifics on accessing it, as I've never been there, and wouldn't know how, besides the basic 'via TOR' thing. The TOR connection is always mentioned as part of the stories not so much because it's apparently the only way to access these sites, but due to the history of TOR and it's creation.

 

And even things like clarifying the krokodil thing aren't to encourage people to use said substance, but just to clarify for people's own perception of what they're reading, ie that despite the media saying it's X that is the issue, the reality is that this is due to Y. It's certainly not a promotion for said substance regardless of production method, unless it's used in a hospital setting (and even then, most of these drugs are long out of use via legitimate methods).

 

So really, nothing has changed as such, and we can still post on news reports that we thought may be interesting for here, whether it's the arrests and closure of Silk Road 1.0 and what it did to Bitcoin prices, or the discussion on trends like krokodil (sorry, can't remember who started that one), and it's horrifying outcome when homemade as in Russia (or maybe Siberia, one of those).


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#14 Kalidor

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:45 AM

Overall the rules themselves really haven't changed. Wording has been modified/refined/clarified in a few areas, but the expected conduct is pretty much the same.

The main thing now is that we're going to do a better job of enforcing them.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 01:29 PM

As long as it's done fairly. One person's innuendo-filled comment should be as warnable as the next. I've seen a hundred posts joking sexually that were never warned, but I use a word starting with a "d" in reference to a certain adult toy and I got slaughtered. And it wasn't even used in a sexual context. 

 

Oh well. I've been "cleaning up my act" per se, so it probably won't matter anyway. 



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 01:37 PM

That's a fair point and my point is we've been *more* than fair over the past 15 years. It's also why I gave a clean slate of 0 points to everyone (many who had well over 3)

The real take away from this is that there's really only two rules:

1) Don't be a dick
2) I run this forum and I'm not going to tie my hands when I see a problem

The stuff that's against the rules is pretty basic stuff and the staff will do their best to be impartial and fair.

Beyond that, (and this goes for everyone, not just those in the thread with concerns), you know what's expected so people can take it or leave it as to whether or not they want to be a part of the community.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 01:39 PM

Number one's gonna be tough, but I'll put some effort into it. 

 

Number two makes good sense. I do appreciate the restart.


Edited by Robowang, 05 March 2014 - 01:48 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:10 PM

That still leaves some vagueness in the scenarios I proposed, for example...

 

Poster: I live in colerado, you can buy pot at this place and that place

Mod: I live in texas where smoking weed gets the death penalty.

Warned/banned?

Do you REALLY expect such a conversation that requires knowing these distinctions beforehand to be taking place on this board?

Speaking as a non-mod, I'd think a general "we'll deal with that if and when it comes up" attitude should be more than sufficient for our purposes.


Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 05 March 2014 - 02:12 PM.


#19 Wheelimus

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:19 PM

*waves* Did that just in case no one had noticed I'm still here. Because I think it's pretty clear if you know me that I'm not going to let anyone get warned or banned for offhanded references to pot or topical discussion as it comes up.

 

Now if you started a thread to be an official guide to legal weed in Colorado and post a bunch of Youtube videos of you smoking it then we may have a problem. Just like it wouldn't be a problem to make a hooker joke (what Botcon location thread would be complete without them?) but it would be a problem to start posting a how to and where to for brothels.

 

Nothing has changed as far as what is postable. All that has changed is we streamlined the rules, got rid of a LOT of stupid hoop-jumping-through when it comes to dealing with problem users, and got rid of the public rapsheet. The rapsheet being a dinosaur from a forgotten time when it made sense. Lately it's just been the forum where I get uncomfortable likes after warning people. lol. Good riddance.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:51 PM

was it more than just me who did that?

 

O_o weird.

 

anywho, new system seems like a keeper. Happy to see there's still an appeal system - little worried that it involves non-neutral parties. .. but hey, How often am I going to be back in PnR anyway ;) 





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