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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:32 PM

I'm going to start this thread in hopes to actually keep things outside the video game discussions thread. I know quite a few of you will appreciate that.
 
So am I the only one who's slowly being drawn back into the show? I got curious in the last season when Charizard was coming back and watched a few episodes then but Iris and Cilan really struck me as annoying characters at the time. Yet now here in XY we have Clemont and Bonnie traveling with Ash and Serena soon to join up. Part of me likes the reverse of the May and Max situation, and I'm finding Bonnie somewhat adorable. After this weeks episode it seems like she's the Animes way of translating the Pokemon Amie feature since shes grooming and playing with the Pokemon. Really a great way to try and bring that to the show IMHO. Clemont takes the Brock role this time and seems like he's gonna have a running gag of having a machine hidden in hammer space for any occasion that will shortly break down and explode. Kind of a fun change compared to Cilans connoisseur comments. Serena seems like a mix between May and Dawn so far, but since we haven't seen all too much of her it's hard to see what she will be in the group dynamic yet.
 
Love to see TR in a good return to form. Bringing back Wobbuffet was great and James getting another tag along Pokemon (Inkay) again seems like it's his style.  Love the motto montage they have this season as well. But I wouldn't mind them having the Black Uniforms still on occaision. What was the story with that last season anyways?
 
As far as Pokemon, it looks like Dedenne despite being caught by Clemont is going to be Bonnies main Pokemon. It's cute and the smaller sizes gives her a cute Pika Clone of her own.
 
Edit to finish my thoughts (had to go get the drive shoveled)- Froakie with Ash seems like we might end up getting repeat of the rebellious mon if his attitude from his initial episodes continues on in the show.. Bunnelby just sounds weird to me.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:48 PM

How is Dedenne pronounced? "duh-den", "dead-enny"?



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:10 PM

I haven't watched the anime for a while, so I don't know what's official, but I always imagined "deh-den," with the final "e" silent, since that would be the French pronunciation and Kalos is a fantasy version of France.
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:46 PM

It's Deh-den-eh.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:05 PM

This series is pure win.  You can't beat the theme song for this season.

 

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:15 PM

Never stopped following the anime, just lost track for a while after it moved to Cartoon Network, but I can safely say...I love the new season, and I'm pleased that they're doing a remix of the original tune for this season's theme song.

 

I'm pleasantly surprised that they're going back to Ash only having one starter, and equally surprised that they're sticking with him having the Water-type starter rather than the Grass-type. My only annoyance is that things aren't quite moving as quickly this season as they were last season, but that's not a bad thing.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:48 PM



I'm going to start this thread in hopes to actually keep things outside the video game discussions thread. I know quite a few of you will appreciate that.

 

So am I the only one who's slowly being drawn back into the show? I got curious in the last season when Charizard was coming back and watched a few episodes then but Iris and Cilan really struck me as annoying characters at the time. Yet now here in XY we have Clemont and Bonnie traveling with Ash and Serena soon to join up. Part of me likes the reverse of the May and Max situation, and I'm finding Bonnie somewhat adorable. After this weeks episode it seems like she's the Animes way of translating the Pokemon Amie feature since shes grooming and playing with the Pokemon. Really a great way to try and bring that to the show IMHO. Clemont takes the Brock role this time and seems like he's gonna have a running gag of having a machine hidden in hammer space for any occasion that will shortly break down and explode. Kind of a fun change compared to Cilans connoisseur comments. Serena seems like a mix between May and Dawn so far, but since we haven't seen all too much of her it's hard to see what she will be in the group dynamic yet.

 

Love to see TR in a good return to form. Bringing back Wobbuffet was great and James getting another tag along Pokemon (Inkay) again seems like it's his style.  Love the motto montage they have this season as well. But I wouldn't mind them having the Black Uniforms still on occaision. What was the story with that last season anyways?

 

As far as Pokemon, it looks like Dedenne despite being caught by Clemont is going to be Bonnies main Pokemon. It's cute and the smaller sizes gives her a cute Pika Clone of her own.

 

Edit to finish my thoughts (had to go get the drive shoveled)- Froakie with Ash seems like we might end up getting repeat of the rebellious mon if his attitude from his initial episodes continues on in the show.. Bunnelby just sounds weird to me.

The black uniforms came about as part of a controversial make-over for the pair. The idea was to make Jessie & James competent, and in fact they very nearly scored a number of victories over the course of Black & White; more often than not, it was a cheap deus ex machina that stopped them instead of anything Ash & co. did. However, the team was reverted back to their old selves for the final installment of B&W.

 

With Iris, it was strongly hinted at (but not outright stated) that she was an orphan and that the mon around her village raised her Jungle Book-style. The village elder made sure that she received at least a basic education, but by Iris' own admission she hadn't even seen a book (let alone a textbook) until she was sent off to a boarding school. Although she's a little more "world-wise" due to being somewhat older than Ash, she has virtually no book-learning under her belt and is almost completely helpless in most social situations. I'm guessing that the writers were trying to portray her as a 180 from the other girls to that point (who were increasingly "girly" and who often simply reacted to what the male characters around them did).

 

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As far as X&Y goes -

 

I'm not entirely keen on Ash's first capture (aside from Froakie) being Fletchling. Unless there's someone I'm forgetting, since day one a flying type - or a mon that can fly - has always been the #1 or #2 catch Ash makes. And while Fletchling is perhaps the most "appealing" of the flying types this round, we already had one Fletchling that belonged to Serena's mom; a bit of variety might have been nice, even if only so far as to make Ash's Fletchling a shiny.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:56 PM

You gotta give him a flyer. Be harder to do the whole search and rescue plot without one. And in game Fletchling is most likely the first Kalos flyer your going to see.

 

I saw a few of the earlier BW episodes and saw TR were actually acting a lot less like themselves. Didn't mind them having somewhat competent ideas but it did feel a bit off after a decade of them being complete screwballs. Still I think they should occasionally use the Black outfits for night or stealth shenanigans.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:51 PM


I saw a few of the earlier BW episodes and saw TR were actually acting a lot less like themselves. Didn't mind them having somewhat competent ideas but it did feel a bit off after a decade of them being complete screwballs. Still I think they should occasionally use the Black outfits for night or stealth shenanigans.

They were acting like their first two appearances. You know, like an actual threat. Enemies who you might actually fight in a Pokemon battle that didn't immediately boil down to Ash's Pokemon immediately taking them out with one hit.

 

I want to see Ash using an actually strategy to take on an enemy Pokemon. I don't want to see enemies thrown in at the end of an episode just to pad out an extra minute of screentime with Pikachu throwing thundershock at a giant mech or balloon to immediately win. You want to make them humorous? Fine. But if you're going to have them as villains, then make them a threat.

 

I. Want. Conflict.

 

You may argue that their initial B&W appearences were out of character, and maybe they were. But those episodes succeeded in doing what this show hadn't accomplished since season 1; they made Team Rocket an actual threat that had to be taken seriously by Ash and company. And that, that did the impoeeible for me; it made me actually interested in this show again after not caring about it at all in years. Because I finally knew that every time I saw Team Rocket in an episode, I'd also see Ash needing to use all his skill as a Pokemon trainer to defeat them, which is what I might actually watch this show or play the games for to begin with.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:25 PM

Another thing of note for B&W is that they were taking direct orders on each assignment, either from Giovanni himself (via his secretary) or a scientist who they were assigned to assist.

 

However, at the end of the Meloetta arc, Giovanni is severely injured and has to be rushed back to headquarters for treatment, the scientist and secretary in tow. At this point, Team Rocket is out on their own again... and acting just like the comedy relief they've always been.

 

In other words, they're good at following the plans of others, but are terrible at coming up with their own.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:35 PM

One thing I'd like to see in the anime?

 

An anime-exclusive gym leader whose mon are such a brick wall that he has never lost in the however many years he's been a gym leader.

 

[Mentor]: "The strongest gym? That would be the _____ Gym."

 

Ash: "Really? Tell me all about it!"

 

[Mentor]: "At this gym, you don't get badges for winning... because no one has ever won. You get your badge based on how long you last and how gracefully you accept your inevitable and potentially embarrassing defeat."

 

Ash has never really faced an "impossible" opponent in the series. In the rare events where he hasn't won a badge or frontier token, he won on the second go-around. He always beats his rivals whenever it's the final showdown, no matter how many time he loses beforehand. He also typically gets pretty darn far in whatever tournaments or leagues he competes in, and has this success as a consolation prize.

 

But he has never really been faced with the prospect of hitting a wall that he has no way to maneuver around.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 08:45 AM

Another thing of note for B&W is that they were taking direct orders on each assignment, either from Giovanni himself (via his secretary) or a scientist who they were assigned to assist.
 
However, at the end of the Meloetta arc, Giovanni is severely injured and has to be rushed back to headquarters for treatment, the scientist and secretary in tow. At this point, Team Rocket is out on their own again... and acting just like the comedy relief they've always been.
 
In other words, they're good at following the plans of others, but are terrible at coming up with their own.

At least they stopped relying on pitfalls to do everything.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 12:57 PM

Also -

 

I don't think I've seen James ever capture a mon through battle.

 

Every mon I can recall him capturing, he either convinced to join him (like his Chingling) or suckered into a trap with bait (like his Inkay).

 

Not even Ash can boast such a record.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 03:48 PM

Team Rocket are the best screwup villain trio ever, and I wouldn't have it any other way.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 06:34 PM

XY in general has hit that fine line between threatening and pathetic for Team Rocket. I'm pretty satisfied with it.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:42 PM

Also -

 

I don't think I've seen James ever capture a mon through battle.

 

Every mon I can recall him capturing, he either convinced to join him (like his Chingling) or suckered into a trap with bait (like his Inkay).

 

Not even Ash can boast such a record.

He caught Weepinbell by defeating it in battle with Weezing.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:46 PM



 



Also -

 

I don't think I've seen James ever capture a mon through battle.

 

Every mon I can recall him capturing, he either convinced to join him (like his Chingling) or suckered into a trap with bait (like his Inkay).

 

Not even Ash can boast such a record.

He caught Weepinbell by defeating it in battle with Weezing.

 

I seem to recall an episode where he said that he raised his.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:52 PM

 



 



Also -

 

I don't think I've seen James ever capture a mon through battle.

 

Every mon I can recall him capturing, he either convinced to join him (like his Chingling) or suckered into a trap with bait (like his Inkay).

 

Not even Ash can boast such a record.

He caught Weepinbell by defeating it in battle with Weezing.

 

I seem to recall an episode where he said that he raised his.

 

Yes. After he caught it with Weezing.

 

Here's flashback footage of it. In Spanish because I'm lazy:


Edited by ZeroX, 10 February 2014 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:18 PM

One thing I'd like to see in the anime?

 

An anime-exclusive gym leader whose mon are such a brick wall that he has never lost in the however many years he's been a gym leader.

 

 

 

[Mentor]: "The strongest gym? That would be the _____ Gym."

 

Ash: "Really? Tell me all about it!"

 

[Mentor]: "At this gym, you don't get badges for winning... because no one has ever won. You get your badge based on how long you last and how gracefully you accept your inevitable and potentially embarrassing defeat."

 

Ash has never really faced an "impossible" opponent in the series. In the rare events where he hasn't won a badge or frontier token, he won on the second go-around. He always beats his rivals whenever it's the final showdown, no matter how many time he loses beforehand. He also typically gets pretty darn far in whatever tournaments or leagues he competes in, and has this success as a consolation prize.

 

But he has never really been faced with the prospect of hitting a wall that he has no way to maneuver around.

 

I seem to vaguely recall the guy who beat him in the Sinnoh League - the dude with the Darkrai and Latios, I think his name was Tobias - being pretty dang undefeatable. Seriously, Ash was the closest that guy had to a real fight in that entire tournament - took down those who and got his entire team dropped in the process - and he's probably never gonna rematch with the guy.

 

Also, one thing about undefeatable opponents...they're boring. I don't want to see Ash go up against an undefeatable opponent because we already know the outcome - he loses. Sure, Ash might do some crazy stunts, come up with an excellent strategy, bring in his big guns, but if we know he's going to lose, then that's just not interesting. You would have a Boring Invincible Antagonist. It'd be like the fight with the Black Knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" if the guy didn't get his limbs hacked off and just kept killing whatever random dude came along. Seriously, it'd get old. Foes exist to be defeated, not to stand around going "hur dur dur, I'm so badass you'll never beat me" and then demonstrate why and go "hur dur dur, try as many times as you like, you'll never win". If I'm Ash, I'd say, "Screw this" and have Charizard turn him into a crispy critter.

 

Reminds me of why I don't like the Borg in "Star Trek" all that much, I feel pretty much the same way about them. Makes me glad they got taken out of play permanently in the novels, but that's beside the point.

 

Anyway, back on topic; I don't like your idea, I find it to be stupid and boring, and I look forward to this weekend's episode.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:24 PM

Team Rocket are the best screwup villain trio ever, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

I'd still give the nod to the Doronbo gang, who manage to balance being evil-for-the-sake-of-evil scum who constantly swindle folks, to endearing screwups who never win.





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