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@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.


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#1841 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 10:38 PM

CGI can be very expensive, and again p, all the merchandise from the first draft had to be scrapped. I just don't see it making any money.

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:58 AM

CGI can be very expensive, and again p, all the merchandise from the first draft had to be scrapped. I just don't see it making any money.


I doubt they had that much merch produced, and what we saw in the original trailer was probably the extent of "finished" footage of Sonic, and even those they could probably just reskin with the new model, and do some tweaks on the detail animations on the eyes etc.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:20 AM

Just repackage some older Sonic merchandise. It's close enough now.


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Posted 16 November 2019 - 02:37 AM

What we know was ready to go-

Toys and plushes
Sculpted drink cup toppers to be sold at cinemas
Branded sneakers matching the original design

So yeah, a lot of merch for this will now have to be struck off and we know merch has long lead times.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 11:45 AM

What we know was ready to go-

Toys and plushes
Sculpted drink cup toppers to be sold at cinemas
Branded sneakers matching the original design

So yeah, a lot of merch for this will now have to be struck off and we know merch has long lead times.


Seems like the shoes can still sell just fine. Is there anything beyond prototypes, mock ups, and one offs for the toys and toppers?
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 01:10 PM

The shoes were the new ones Sonic wears on the scrapped model. He's now wearing his iconic power sneakers.



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Posted 16 November 2019 - 03:17 PM

The shoes were the new ones Sonic wears on the scrapped model. He's now wearing his iconic power sneakers.


Which were pretty standard puma running shoes, that can still be sold as pretty standard puma running shoes.
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Posted 18 November 2019 - 07:43 AM

No, if you look closely he's using Rings as portals. Giant rings warping you to other places? Yeah, thats very much part of Sonic lore/gameplay.

 
Good eye. But, while giant rings have been used to bring him to other zones and levels, have they ever been used to bring him to entirely different planets?

I think Archie did that (I'd have to double-check), and I think the Special Stages in Sonic CD might have as well.

As for the merch, I think they'll likely move enough of it now to make up for what was scrapped (especially if the companies involved are responsible recyclers).

Think of itvlike this: Even if I wasn't interested in seeing the movie, at least this is a Sonic design I'd want to own. A goblin drink topper doesn't appeal to me at all, but a little blue buddy keeping an eye on my Coke? Sign me up!

In other words, merch based on the new design can actually sell to fans of the movie, Sonic fans who don't see the movie, and even people who don't know who Sonic is.

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 09:36 AM

Don't know how true this is... But if it is.. Yeah, Movie is going to bomb badly.

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 09:37 PM

I hope those numbers aren't real because that is not good.

Still, the world doesn't make sense anymore, so I'm still rooting for the outcome where this turns into an improbable blockbuster.

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Posted 22 November 2019 - 03:29 PM

Trafon ran with the wrong numbers, it's the internet, it happens. It apparently cost them $5 million or less to redo the model. Doesn't change all the scrapped merchandise though.


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Posted 22 November 2019 - 03:53 PM

I doubt we'll ever know the exact numbers but that sounds much more realistic.

 

I wonder how much merchandise is actually going to be scrapped. Have you seen much movie tie-in merchandise lately? I doubt some of those companies will even care. Either way Walmart's just going to order too much of wave 1 and then nothing ever again.


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Posted 23 November 2019 - 11:31 AM

Betcha the OG merch that got scrapped will be released somehow and collectors will run after them.

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Posted 23 November 2019 - 06:03 PM

Obviously Paramount felt it was worth the money to redo it. They're probably hedging their bets on the good will and attention from the whole debacle to boost their ticket sales.

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Posted 23 November 2019 - 08:38 PM

Well Im at least cool with using my movie pass to go see it one time as a Sonic fan. But I think its still more about my love of old school Jim Carrey and I want too see that than Super Speed Smurf the Roadchip.

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Posted 24 November 2019 - 01:52 AM

Jim Carrey was born for this role. Stars aligned somewhere for this.


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Posted 25 November 2019 - 01:48 PM

I'm not a Carrey fan (more of poor Cyclops actually) but I'm here for Sonic.

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Posted 25 November 2019 - 05:56 PM

After all, all the old merchandising had to be thrown out, all the toys and such.

(and similar comments)

Did it have to be thrown out, though? It wouldn't be even close to the first movie to have merch that wasn't accurate to the movie. Silver Knight Optimus Prime comes to mind, or VW Bumblebee's door wings. For a non-Transformers example, the Playmates action figures for Star Trek: Generations were wearing new uniforms that didn't actually make it into the movie.

It's not like the old design wasn't immediately recognizable as Sonic the Hedgehog.

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Posted 25 November 2019 - 11:04 PM

I dunno, like, my girlfriend had an intensely visceral reaction to the original design. Like, it legit freaked her out.

We're not just talking about accuracy to please the die hard fans. This is a case where a lot of people were extremely distressed by a design. I could see them going full purge on it.

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:52 AM

That being said, Fnu Aw has a point: it feels to me like you don't get the merchandising blitz for movies/tv shows the way you used to fifteen to twenty five years ago. There might not have been that much scrapped at all.


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