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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?


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#54281 Fnu Aw

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 10:36 AM

Fanstoys managed to make Blurr stupidly complicated with transformation joints that explode if moved normally.

 

Blurr.


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 11:03 AM

The only 3rd party figure I've ever gotten was the IDW(1) Rodimus from Mastermind Creations for when I put together a Lost Light display. Nothing really seemed close enough other than maybe Cloud Rodimus and it was still too far off for my taste. (I also didn't want to pay that much for yet another of that mold.) My only problem left with that grouping now is getting a fitting Cyclonus and Whirl, since the Universe Cyclonus is earmarked for the 86 movie crew, and the most recent Gen Whirl is earmarked for the Wreckers. Also waiting to see if we get a better Nautica than the one they built from Blurr.



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 11:23 AM

There are a looooot of 3P figures I'd have if I could justify to myself actually buying them. Possibly more than official figures. = .


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 01:05 PM

I only pay attention to Fanstoys for a good laugh. Otherwise I'm still watching NewAge and to a lesser extent Magic Square. I'll pay attention to Transform Element if they ever release anything new again.

 

The rest can just go away and I wouldn't miss them.


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 01:15 PM

Astrotrain is coming out soon 


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 02:37 PM

Given how much Japan loves trains, I would expect the traininess of a new Raiden to be high. It seems pretty pointless if they don't get the These Are Decent Trains part right. The better Shinkalion toys are Kind Of Okay, but not good enough to be in a Transformers line without causing offence.

But certainly, they could do bloody anything

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 02:46 PM

Shinkalion's target demographic is probably closer to the same age as Rescue Bots, hence the lousy articulation.


Nerds have always missed the point of the things they love in favour of obsessing over minutiae of the setting.

 


#54288 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 03:18 PM

Shinkalion toys are stocked in the regular boys section at TRU, not the younger kids section. I was there last week.

They were also cheaper at another store, but I still didn't really feel they were worth around $35-$40.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 04:07 PM

I think sometimes we forget how spoiled we are. Whether official or third party, compare Transformers' standards to what fans of any other transforming robot line put up with. We're frequently unimpressed by toys that in any other line would be awe inspiring.


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 04:15 PM

When I was collecting the Time Bokan 24 toys I realized that. For the price of a Leader I got a stumpy little beetle robo who could move his shoulders and bend his elbows, wrapped around a light and sound box.

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#54291 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 04:23 PM

I haven't really been impressed with another transforming robot line since Webdiver. I'd still go for a decently priced Golemon or Wyverion.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 04:35 PM

at least sometimes you do have options if you want something with more articulation

 

see also: literally every year the sentai fandom unanimously agrees that the candy toy minipla figures of the robots are better toys than the full-size DX toy

 

(yeah i know sentai isn't really transforming robots but whatever)


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 05:38 PM

Reideen has one of the simplest transformations of all time and Bandai still finds ways to make it a Legoformer, and their fans still say "Oh well it is a hard design."

 

e07.png No. No it is not. Hasbro could design one between coffee breaks. Even the Titanium guys probably could have done it.


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 05:43 PM

no one is forcing you to buy these toys you know


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 06:11 PM

A part of me suspects that Bandai incorporates some parts-forming into every transforming SOC because they think it makes the figures feel more like collector items instead of toys aimed at kids, it's their equivalent of super articulated MP-style hands.


Nerds have always missed the point of the things they love in favour of obsessing over minutiae of the setting.

 


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 06:30 PM

Someone brought in a bunch of the 6 inch Titanuims  BUT the WW Prowl I need damn


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 06:38 PM

Astrotrain has a car this time April, it's not just the engine 



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 08:08 PM

no one is forcing you to buy these toys you know

 

No one can stop me from marveling at their badness from a distance either, thank you.

 

 

Someone brought in a bunch of the 6 inch Titanuims  BUT the WW Prowl I need damn

 

Well, what did they bring in?


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 08:28 PM

Quite frankly, outside of transformers, the standards for transforming robot toys are set by sentai, and those toys haven't improved in any way since ever. Heck, they've arguably gotten worse in some cases. 

Fanstoys managed to make Blurr stupidly complicated with transformation joints that explode if moved normally.

 

Blurr.

Don't forget making his dark blue purple.


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 08:41 PM

sentai's basically a dying franchise though so idk how they're setting standards when no one is buying the toys


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