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@  -LittleAutob... : (01 June 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Ha! Talk about getting away with something!

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 June 2020 - 09:08 AM)

Carnivac was still an evil Decepticon at heart, and no one shot him in the back for it.

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 May 2020 - 06:52 PM)

*stares at the light switch* .... I see what you did there

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 May 2020 - 01:40 PM)

*hands llittleautobot1218 a light switch* There you go.

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 May 2020 - 10:53 AM)

I feel a need to lighten up the mood.... ;)

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 May 2020 - 10:38 AM)

:p

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 May 2020 - 02:14 AM)

Shockwave did it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (30 May 2020 - 12:21 AM)

I'm not in the US and at least some of the episodes seem to work for me. I don't know the actual list of places it's available, though.

@  Shockwave 75 : (29 May 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Unfortunately It seems Cyberverse is only available in the US on YouTube.

@  -LittleAutob... : (29 May 2020 - 09:19 AM)

Yes, and its ongoing.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (29 May 2020 - 01:05 AM)

Cyberverse is already officially uploaded to YouTube.

@  fourteenwings : (29 May 2020 - 12:36 AM)

Spin Master is abridging current episodes of Bakugan Armored Alliance and posting the result on YouTube. Maybe Hasbro does that someday too.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 May 2020 - 10:59 PM)

I see... :/

@  wonko the sane? : (28 May 2020 - 08:14 PM)

Within the US anyway. Those channels aren't easy or cheap to access in other countries, and their website often region lock content. Tubi is the only good thing on that list: largely identical (but not perfectly so. Damnit. I wanna watch COPS.) country to country and free.

@  Steevy Maximus : (28 May 2020 - 07:24 PM)

So yeah, Hasbro is using plenty of venues to spread exposure of their brands

@  Steevy Maximus : (28 May 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Starz currently licenses Transformers G1 and the GI Joe movie (as well as MLP specials). Netflix has more current series available.

@  Nevermore : (28 May 2020 - 07:21 PM)

Study shows: Holders of the title "world's oldest person" have a severely increased risk of dying.

@  Steevy Maximus : (28 May 2020 - 07:18 PM)

Tubi TV and Youtube both host various Hasbro cartoons. Both are freely accessed and ad supported. Any basic TV package (barring straight antenna) includes channels like USA Network, SyFy and FX, all of which regularly air the films from Transformers and GI Joe.

@  wonko the sane? : (28 May 2020 - 06:18 PM)

I dunno what to tell you, media might be changing slowly, but at least it's still accessible. Even the folks that DON'T get one of the streaming services can watch it on the company website. It's a vehicle for the toy line after all, they need to make an effort to make it as consumable as possible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 May 2020 - 05:41 PM)

Well. Thats said, then.... I guess... :doh

@  wonko the sane? : (28 May 2020 - 04:13 PM)

As long as the the cartoons are profitable, then they'll make more. The media it's shown on is completely irrelevant. I say that as a guy whose earliest surviving memory is a big red truck turning into a big red robot.

@  ZakuConvoy : (28 May 2020 - 03:06 PM)

Might be the end of an era. With the rise of streaming, who knows if Transformers will ever be on broadcast TV again.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 May 2020 - 11:46 AM)

3 seasons on a show is usually enough... but yeah ;-;

@  Roddie Luver : (27 May 2020 - 09:37 PM)

I’m also sad Cyberverse has no season four.

@  Paladin : (26 May 2020 - 08:10 PM)

it's too hugging hot today.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I'll agree with you on that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

*Figured -_-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I fugured

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 May 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I'm actually sad Cyberverse won't get another season. 2 and 3 (of what I've seen) have REALLY nailed it in being fun little actions shows, like the Sunbow series.

@  Rycochet : (25 May 2020 - 01:00 PM)

Yes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 May 2020 - 12:52 PM)

I'm waiting for Animated season 4. Am I insane?

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2020 - 11:22 AM)

I'm waiting for the next season to show up on netflix.

@  Sabrblade : (25 May 2020 - 10:59 AM)

Many of us have already watched the rest of the Cyberverse episodes since the whole third season aired in the UK last September.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:18 AM)

*9th

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:17 AM)

I just saw the 8th episode... omg

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2020 - 01:28 AM)

Already seen it online.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:42 PM)

Who's excited for tomorrow? The only thing that makes Monday worth it is the Cyberverse episodes .-.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 May 2020 - 12:30 PM)

Welcome. I just came into that trick myself recently, so happy to share.

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 12:05 PM)

Thanks, wonko the sane? for the tip with the cloning. That helped a lot!

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 12:02 PM)

Heheh.... yes... I don't think a sniper would be very good at making a vaccine... 0.0

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 11:48 AM)

All right! Cloning my old HHD to an SSD and then swapping out the drive was successful, it would appear. Finally.

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2020 - 11:30 AM)

Scientist Perceptor is. Sniper Perceptor less so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:51 AM)

Perceptor would be more responsible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:48 AM)

Oof x~x

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 10:45 AM)

He'd cure the virus, but he'd probably commit at least two crimes against nature and weaponize a third in the process.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:39 AM)

'Horrible consequences' would most likely happen with Brainstorm...

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 08:16 AM)

Totally. And Percy's not even human. XD

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 06:50 AM)

Can't do much worse than our current government, I say go for it.

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 10:13 PM)

Little do we realize that the Perceptor in question is the Mini-Con combiner. :p

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

He would!!!


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:54 PM

Second, it takes no work at all to ignore someone's work, to say it's terrible, or to praise it unduly.  It is intellectually and morally dishonest.  I expect better.  So should we all.

 
I just don't see much in the way of research or thought in this article to address. (Or proofreading, but that's neither here nor there.) He posts a graph that says revenues have declined a bit in the last couple of years, which also shows they are significantly higher than they were pre-2008. Heck, the tail end of the graph suggests to me that the decline may already be leveling off.  He notes that Star Wars stuff sells (giving an example of a line that's probably a bit too new to really judge).  That seems to be the extent of his "research".  
 
The rest of it is griping about a TV show that doesn't even have to do with Hasbro, and a wishlist for not only live-action TF and Joe shows but one and maybe two cel-animated shows specifically catering to thirtysomethings (with an apparent lack of knowledge as to how much they already do that in the toy line -- I just ordered Skids for crying out loud), even suggesting a (poor, uncatchy and backwards-looking) working title for one such show.  I don't think I'm being overly dismissive by not paying him much attention.
 

To people who were pleased with Transformers Prime... I'm sorry.  Just because there is precedent for humans understanding a beeping robot and an apparent financial gap such that the writers can't afford voice actors

 
Oh, the good old "Bumblebee beeps because they're too cheap to pay a voice actor" canard.  (Have the rules changed since the 80s, when they could get three characters for the price of one?  Seems to me if they wanted Bee to talk they could just say, "Hey Welker, do the Scooter voice" and be done with it.)

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:11 PM

 

Four, "It's a show for children" was true in G1, yet I don't remember Bumblebee playing R2D2.  You know, back when R2D2 was super popular - the 80s.

Well, Bumblebee couldn't play R2D2 back then, Roller had already called dibs!

*rimshot*

 

But Honestly, if we ever DID get a new G1 series, I'd expect it to be sorta like "Ultimate Universe" Transformers, taking elements from the g1 toon, Marvel Comics, DW comics, IDW Comics, and Generation toys, and creating a new G1 offshoot.

Considering how many different things "G1" has been and how many characters in other franchises have had the "G1 influence" and how at this point even "not-originally from G1" dudes have shown up in G1 settings, is there seriously that much difference between "making a new G1" and "making a new Transformers series"?


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:23 PM

 

 

Four, "It's a show for children" was true in G1, yet I don't remember Bumblebee playing R2D2.  You know, back when R2D2 was super popular - the 80s.

Well, Bumblebee couldn't play R2D2 back then, Roller had already called dibs!

*rimshot*

 

But Honestly, if we ever DID get a new G1 series, I'd expect it to be sorta like "Ultimate Universe" Transformers, taking elements from the g1 toon, Marvel Comics, DW comics, IDW Comics, and Generation toys, and creating a new G1 offshoot.

Considering how many different things "G1" has been and how many characters in other franchises have had the "G1 influence" and how at this point even "not-originally from G1" dudes have shown up in G1 settings, is there seriously that much difference between "making a new G1" and "making a new Transformers series"?

 

 

Depends on who you ask, and what forms you give the characters. Also a New G1 series would likely go back to a more boxy-design style then the more curvy and stylized looks from Animated and Prime.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:26 PM

 

Depends on who you ask, and what forms you give the characters. Also a New G1 series would likely go back to a more boxy-design style then the more curvy and stylized looks from Animated and Prime.

 

I must've missed the part where IDW Rodimus suddenly qualified as "boxy".


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:30 PM

Ugh, that article is so ignorant and Geewun it hurts. :puke

 

 

What if Saberback is Sabrblade's evil twin!

 

SG SabrBlade?

 

You people are scaring me. :(  :wtf


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:32 PM

"Hasbro should make a live-action TV show like Agents of SHIELD. Also, here are all the reason Agents of SHIELD sucks."

 

Not really a good argument. And Agents of SHIELD doesn't really help create "brand awareness," it's been the other way around - people were only interested because we already have all the Avenger movies. A better example might be Arrow, which is apparently good, but I rarely see people talking about.

 

I don't think a live-action Transformers show is economically feasible. Just too much money needed for special effects. For example, consider the show Terra Nova - a sci-fi show where people travel back in time and live in the time of dinosaurs! Sounded pretty cool, except for the fact that the dinosaur CGI was really expensive and so lots of episodes had little-to-no dinosaurs at all, and sometimes what did show up was pretty slipshod. Unsurprisingly the show got canned after one season.

 

While I'm sure there are plenty of fans who would enjoy a new animated G1 series (though it would probably have to be up to better animation standards than the ol' 1980s show) I'm not sure how that would really be a revenue-maker for Hasbro. It would overlap with the same target audiences that already consume the new shows like Prime. 



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:33 PM

 

 

Depends on who you ask, and what forms you give the characters. Also a New G1 series would likely go back to a more boxy-design style then the more curvy and stylized looks from Animated and Prime.

 

I must've missed the part where IDW Rodimus suddenly qualified as "boxy".

 

 

Well if we're getting him as a Springer Repaint...

 

But no, I mean in general, G1 designs tend to look less rounded, and more bulky. It's not the rule for everyone, but its a fair constant.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:41 PM

Shakespeare called it: "A tale told by an idiot."

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:00 PM

 

Well if we're getting him as a Springer Repaint...

 

But no, I mean in general, G1 designs tend to look less rounded, and more bulky. It's not the rule for everyone, but its a fair constant.

 

 

Here and there, sure. It's also been a fair constant of the Unicron Trilogy too.

 

Nonetheless, ever since Beast Machines or so, everything's always been "a new take on G1", really. I don't really see why Hasbro'd need to market the next cartoon as "Transformers Return of the G1" when it could be "Transformers Exciting New Thing".
Let's face it, G1 has been diversified enough that Bumblebee doesn't even have to be tiny and chubby anymore for the fiction to still qualify as being G1. ;)


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:21 PM

I think Hasbro could make money off of a G1 revival*

I think they could make money off of a Beast revival*

I think they could make money off of something completely new*

I think they could make money with something from above set back in the 1800's and everyone is a train*

 

*If it were written well

Because Transformers is a pretty frickin' sweet formula. Sentient alien machines that turn into something else to hide and fight battles. Give it to a competant writer and they can make it work.

 

So I don't really care what Hasbro does next, just keep innovating and I'll probably be there.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:26 PM

This is basically the research done on the article: Hey, those  Transformers movies are popular now, right? But how come the only TF cartoon I remember is the old one?  Clearly, they need to bring back the old cartoon!

 

Because that's the only way I can imagine how he reached that conclusion. The  G1 toon did have more of a pop culture presence than any TF cartoon afterwards, but it's not like it'd automatically work today anymore than any other series. Look how hard the He-man series flounders in comparison to ours.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:26 PM

I think they could make money with something from above set back in the 1800's and everyone is a train*

 

*If it were written well

Set it in the 1940s instead, and on a fictional island set within the Irish Sea between England and the Isle of Man. ;)


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:07 PM

An  article on the revenue of an entire company that focuses on only one franchise is HARDLY what anybody should call well thought out.

 

The writer is a fool. It reads a lot more like his wetdream wishes for future media than any sort of sound suggestion. He doesn't even mention the strenght of other IPs such as their growing girl toylines and their gaming brands.

More than anything else, the article fails by failing to understand the company.  Hasbro, despite their best efforts, is still, first and foremost, a TOY company, NOT an established IP company the way Disney and Time Warner are.

 

Hasbro's money comes from selling toys, and neither "suggestion" does anything to improve toy sales.  Not helped by the fact EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE he mentioned doesn't have a mass market toy line or tie in AT ALL (Hell, we don't even have an Agent Coulson figure and he's been in MULTIPLE MCU films).  While both have merit in the "raising brand awareness", most of that awareness seems targeted to older demographics...who generally don't buy toys.

 

And I almost couldn't stomach the "Bring back G1" element because it shows a clear lack of ANY understanding of Hasbro's product output over the last SEVEN YEARS.  

 

I also don't view Star Wars Black any sort of sterling example since it was produced as a response to the complete IMPLOSION the Star Wars brand saw over the past few years (and again, shows a lack of product understanding since Black replaces the much more revered Vintage series)



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:14 PM

Some of the reactions sure have same effect as a laxative.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:20 PM

I think going G1 is a mistake, & just the ravings of Gewun dork. He also likely thinks Hasbro needs to go back to die cast.

I do think a streamlined IDW More Than Meets the Eye series could work as a cartoon maybe. There's enough fresh stuff in there that it could be its own thing, while still harking to G1.

It might have to drop some concepts, to become a cartoon & likely reduce deaths.

Rung would likely be redesigned into something that would work as a toy.
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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:25 PM


 

To people who were pleased with Transformers Prime... I'm sorry.  Just because there is precedent for humans understanding a beeping robot and an apparent financial gap such that the writers can't afford voice actors doesn't excuse poor writing where 90% of the episodes had the exact same plot - a "mini-con of the week" plot to paraphrase this article's writer's critique of Agents of SHEILD.  A prettier Armada with worse writing is bad.

 

Luckily all those G1 episodes didn't have the same basic plot - say like Megatron finding a new source of immense power, in the form of a ruby crystal, a hydro-electric dam, etc.

 

Lucky that.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:01 PM

What so you expect from a show that is not for kids? We adults have discriminating taste in our recycled plots.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:21 PM

 

What so you expect from a show that is not for kids? We adults have discriminating taste in our recycled plots.

 

And yet another person arguing that kids tv doesn't have to be interesting, stimulating, or educational.  Because... you know... good parents would much rather they watch garbage than quality programming.

 

 


 

To people who were pleased with Transformers Prime... I'm sorry.  Just because there is precedent for humans understanding a beeping robot and an apparent financial gap such that the writers can't afford voice actors doesn't excuse poor writing where 90% of the episodes had the exact same plot - a "mini-con of the week" plot to paraphrase this article's writer's critique of Agents of SHEILD.  A prettier Armada with worse writing is bad.

 

Luckily all those G1 episodes didn't have the same basic plot - say like Megatron finding a new source of immense power, in the form of a ruby crystal, a hydro-electric dam, etc.

 

Lucky that.

 

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Season 1:

  1. "More than Meets the Eye, Part 1"
  2. "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2"
  3. "More than Meets the Eye, Part 3"  1-3 origin, energon to go back to cybertron.
  4. "Transport to Oblivion" space bridge to get back to cybertron.
  5. "Roll for It" something,
  6. "Divide and Conquer" something.
  7. "Fire in the Sky" Jetfire
  8. "S.O.S. Dinobots" Dinobots.
  9. "Fire on the Mountain" Jetfire part 2.
  10. "War of the Dinobots" More Dinobots
  11. "The Ultimate Doom, Part 1"
  12. "The Ultimate Doom, Part 2"
  13. "The Ultimate Doom, Part 3"  Some crazy stuff!
  14. "Countdown to Extinction" more crazy stuff!
  15. "A Plague of Insecticons" Insecticons!
  16. "Heavy Metal War" Devestator VS Dinobots, the "end" of the Decepticons.

 

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  1. Darkness Rising, Part 1
  2. Darkness Rising, Part 2
  3. Darkness Rising, Part 3
  4. Darkness Rising, Part 4
  5. Darkness Rising, Part 5  Zombies because Earth has DARK ENERGON.
  6. Masters & Students  Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  7. Scrapheap Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  8. Con Job Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  9. Convoy M.E.C.H.
  10. Deus ex Machina Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  11. Speed Metal  Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  12. Predatory Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  13. Sick Mind Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  14. Out of His Head Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  15. Shadowzone Zombie Skyquake... he'll have a toy eventually folks!
  16. Operation: Breakdown Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  17. Crisscross Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  18. Metal Attraction Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  19. Rock Bottom Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  20. Partners Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  21. T.M.I. Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  22. Stronger, Faster Some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably crash lands on earth.
  23. One Shall Fall
  24. One Shall Rise, Part 1
  25. One Shall Rise, Part 2
  26. One Shall Rise, Part 3 Unicron is the Earth!  By the way, Unicron is some mysterious cybertronian artifact inexplicably became Earth.

 

Wow, being right on the internet *IS NOT* satisfying... who would have thought.  At least we know anything other than an apology or strong counter argument counts as trolling, don't we?


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:29 PM

I always love it when people bitchpants about TFP being so MacGuffon focused and completely forget G1 being even WORSE about that. The second and third seasons, and also the movie, really had a thing for macguffins.

 

Also, Bold text to emphasize my points is completely necessary because bold text is cruise control for cool.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:38 PM

I always love it when people bitchpants about TFP being so MacGuffon focused and completely forget G1 being even WORSE about that. The second and third seasons, and also the movie, really had a thing for macguffins.

But when G1 did it it was new and cool.