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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage each getting a netflix series, culminating in a "Defenders" mini-series!

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:01 AM

Disney's Marvel and Netflix Join Forces to Develop Historic Four Series Epic plus a Mini-Series Event Based on Renowned Marvel Characters

Landmark Deal Brings Marvel’s Flawed Heroes of Hell’s Kitchen, led by "Daredevil," to the World’s Leading Internet TV Network in 2015
 

Burbank, Calif. - Nov 7, 2013—The Walt Disney Co. (NYSE: DIS) and Netflix Inc. (NASDAQ: NFLX) today announced an unprecedented deal for Marvel TV to bring multiple original series of live-action adventures of four of Marvel's most popular characters exclusively to the world's leading Internet TV Network beginning in 2015. This pioneering agreement calls for Marvel to develop four serialized programs leading to a mini-series programming event.

Led by a series focused on "Daredevil," followed by "Jessica Jones," "Iron Fist" and "Luke Cage," the epic will unfold over multiple years of original programming, taking Netflix members deep into the gritty world of heroes and villains of Hell's Kitchen, New York.  Netflix has committed to a minimum of four, thirteen episodes series and a culminating Marvel's "The Defenders" mini-series event that reimagines a dream team of self-sacrificing, heroic characters.

Produced by Marvel Television in association with ABC Television Studios, this groundbreaking deal is Marvel’s most ambitious foray yet into live-action TV storytelling.

"This deal is unparalleled in its scope and size, and reinforces our commitment to deliver Marvel's brand, content and characters across all platforms of storytelling. Netflix offers an incredible platform for the kind of rich storytelling that is Marvel’s specialty," said Alan Fine, President of Marvel Entertainment. "This serialized epic expands the narrative possibilities of on-demand television and gives fans the flexibility to immerse themselves how and when they want in what's sure to be a thrilling and engaging adventure."


"Marvel’s movies, such as 'Iron Man' and 'Marvel’s The Avengers,' are huge favorites on our service around the world. Like Disney, Marvel is a known and loved brand that travels," said Netflix Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos. "With 'House of Cards' and our other original series, we have pioneered new approaches to storytelling and to global distribution and we're thrilled to be working with Disney and Marvel to take our brand of television to new levels with a creative project of this magnitude."

This new original TV deal follows last year's landmark movie distribution deal through which, beginning with 2016 theatrically released feature films, Netflix will be the exclusive U.S. subscription television service for first-run, live-action and animated movies from the Walt Disney Studios, including titles from Disney, Walt Disney Animation Studios, Pixar Animation Studios, Marvel Studios, Disneynature and Lucasfilm.  Netflix members can currently enjoy a wide range of Disney, ABC TV and Disney Channel films and shows across the 41 countries where Netflix operates.


About The Walt Disney Company

The Walt Disney Company, together with its subsidiaries and affiliates, is a leading diversified international entertainment and media enterprise with five business segments: media networks, parks and resorts, studio entertainment, consumer products and interactive media. Disney is a Dow 30 company and had annual revenues of $42.3 billion in its Fiscal Year 2012.


About Netflix

Netflix is the world's leading Internet television network with over 40 million members in more than 40 countries enjoying more than one billion hours of TV shows and movies per month, including original series. For one low monthly price, Netflix members can watch as much as they want, anytime, anywhere, on nearly any Internet-connected screen. Members can play, pause and resume watching, all without commercials or commitments.

Source: http://marvel.com/ne...ni-series_event

 

Not sure why they're using the "Defenders" name instead of "Heroes for Hire" or even "New Avengers" but it's still pretty awesome.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:02 AM

This, my freinds, is literally everything I have been asking for. Daredevil. Alias. Heroes for Hire. Defender. On Netflix. Is it my birthday?!?!


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:31 AM

Along with the Disney deal in general, this is Netflix firmly planting their flag and daring Amazon Prime to show up.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:32 AM

This, my freinds, is literally everything I have been asking for. Daredevil. Alias. Heroes for Hire. Defender. On Netflix. Is it my birthday?!?!

 

I don't know why Marvel didn't go this route for their ABC series? Go with limited series. Low risk, high reward. Also, it's so much easier to do street level heroes. With Agents of SHIELD we expect so much more. 


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:35 AM

 

This, my freinds, is literally everything I have been asking for. Daredevil. Alias. Heroes for Hire. Defender. On Netflix. Is it my birthday?!?!

 

I don't know why Marvel didn't go this route for their ABC series? Go with limited series. Low risk, high reward. Also, it's so much easier to do street level heroes. With Agents of SHIELD we expect so much more. 

 

Meh, I'm glad they didn't. Screw network television, it's too safe.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:38 AM

...who the heck is Jessica Jones?



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:42 AM

Meh, I'm glad they didn't. Screw network television, it's too safe.

 

 

If you don't think they're still going to go safe on Netflix I think you're in for a disappointment. They've got a brand to protect and they're probably not going to break the "PG-13-ish" barrier they've created. Then again, we could just wait and find out. Casting for this is going to be crazy.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:46 AM

...who the heck is Jessica Jones?

 

Star of the book Alias. Seek it out and read that sucker, it's truly amazing.

 

Meh, I'm glad they didn't. Screw network television, it's too safe.

 

 

If you don't think they're still going to go safe on Netflix I think you're in for a disappointment. They've got a brand to protect and they're probably not going to break the "PG-13-ish" barrier they've created. Then again, we could just wait and find out. Casting for this is going to be crazy.

 

 

I'm not talking about simple garbage like "PG-13ish". I'm not asking for buckets of blood or violence beyond reason. That's not at all what I'm talking about.

Shield is safe in that it takes ZERO risks with the characters. Everything is super sanitized and broken down to its most simple premise in that show. There is no nuance at all unlike what we see in the films. It's very ABC Network Television.

Stepping away from ABC is nothing but a good thing as they won't be held to that kind of nonsense.

All a moot point anyway BECAUSE I'M GETTING WHAT I WANT MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:47 AM

On the one hand cool news. More Marvel, and more Marvel building to a shared Universe (even one not connected to the Movie-verse) is a very cool thing.

 

On the other hand I've never had much interest in any of these characters. Ok, Jessica Jones is kinda cool in her Jem-esque 1980s Jewel persona, but other than that they're kinda characters that have always bored me.

 

I'll still check em out of course.

 

 

-ZavWilliam, It makes sense for them to use the Defenders name, because it's a stronger heroic name and reminiscent of "Avengers" but at the same time it makes me just a little sad as I'm fond of the classic Comic style Defenders which these guys really aren't.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:49 AM

The Defenders were never a set team, they are just whoever happens to team up on that day.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:49 AM

*yawn*

 

Ironbite-Call me when Deadpool reverts back to..,.,wait.  Defenders?  DARKHAWK!?


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:53 AM

I'll look into this 'Alias' business. I've heard of the book... I guess with the other Alias show being a thing, they can't call this that.

 

 

The Defenders were never a set team, they are just whoever happens to team up on that day.

 

 

I'd like to see a Hulk/Dr Strange/Silver Surfer/Namor team... but with the way the rights are currently split, it's none too likely.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:56 AM

The Defenders were never a set team, they are just whoever happens to team up on that day.

 

Recently maybe, but there's a pretty definitive Classic Defenders line up: Hulk, Namor, Silver Surfer, and Dr Strange as the big names, guys like Nighthawk, Valkyrie, Hellcat and Gargoyle as the lesser names. The roster was classicly fluid, as Avengers is, but they definitely established a stable of characters who are "Defenders."

 

-ZacWilliam, now in the Modern comics it's definitely been more open as Marvel has struggled and failed to relaunch them with different concepts, but for me at least the Defenders will always be the Classic Silver Age team.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:00 AM

*yawn*

 

Ironbite-Call me when Deadpool reverts back to..,.,wait.  Defenders?  DARKHAWK!?

 

 

? Who said anything about Darkhawk? Did I miss something? (I mean he's perfect for this sort of concept but if they're considering him I havn't seen it)

 

 

-ZacWilliam, and I'm pretty sure by "Defenders" they just mean they are calling the Team of Daredevil, Jessica, Power Man and Iron Fist that.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:00 AM

I hear ya, I do, I just don't think it needs to be a thing right now. Nor do I think it can when two of those guys are owned by Fox, one is solidly an Avenger and another, according to rumors, is being set up to be the next Iron Man.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:05 AM

and another, according to rumors, is being set up to be the next Iron Man.

 

 

....what.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:07 AM

I hear ya, I do, I just don't think it needs to be a thing right now. Nor do I think it can when two of those guys are owned by Fox, one is solidly an Avenger and another, according to rumors, is being set up to be the next Iron Man.

 

Oh I know, I don't think it's viable in live action right now at all. It's just a bit of a let down seeing the name of a team I like used for an entirely different team that's much less interesting to me. But yeah, the "Classic" line up is unlikely and the name is more Heroic and has more potential than "Heroes for Hire" so I can totally understand why Marvel would go with it. 

 

 

-ZacWilliam, it's fair use, it's just sort of like if Marvel used the old villain Black Knight in a future film I'd be a bit sad as the Heroic Avenger by that name is a favorite of mine. 


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:08 AM

 

and another, according to rumors, is being set up to be the next Iron Man.

 

 

....what.

 

Downey is only doing Iron Man in two more Avengers films. They need to fine the next big draw and what it seems like is they are preparing to make Doctor Strange that guy. They just have to cast him perfectly.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

I hear ya, I do, I just don't think it needs to be a thing right now. Nor do I think it can when two of those guys are owned by Fox, one is solidly an Avenger and another, according to rumors, is being set up to be the next Iron Man.

 

Namor is under Universal, not Fox.  Just a FYI.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:48 AM

 

 

and another, according to rumors, is being set up to be the next Iron Man.

 

 

....what.

 

Downey is only doing Iron Man in two more Avengers films. They need to fine the next big draw and what it seems like is they are preparing to make Doctor Strange that guy. They just have to cast him perfectly.

 

 

 

Oh, yeah. I knew all that, but your phrasing made me think they were planning Stephen Strange as the next guy in the Iron Man armor.





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