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@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:31 AM

So I finally grabbed IDW Megatron.  First off, I must have lucked out as all joints seem to be tight and everything fits where it is intended to for the most part (have had a bad track record as of late)

 

Looking at the figure with his lavender secondary color and purple underoos, It occored to me that this little guy is not Megatron at all, but rather the character that we knew in Beast wars who took that name, to me at least.

 

Sure this mode is seen in the comics, but for my purposes, the size, varying color scheme and head sculpt are completly justified by this idea.  That, and we already know very well where Waspinator and Rattrap are, among others, and the color scheme does not neccissarily match what is on the printed page.

 

SO I ask you folks, do you ever do this?  If so, what sort of re-purposing have you done with figures?


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:35 AM

I've done very little personal repurposing with my figures, only ever doing so if it had been done officially (such as using my PM Optimus Prime w/ Apex Armor as God Ginrai).

 

However, there is one example of what you're asking about that I have done, and it is this:

 

Marvel Crossovers Ghost Rider as Animated The Fallen. :idea


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:38 AM

not counting figures I've deliberetly gone and painted into somebody else... hmm?

 

I'm actually at a bit of a loss... I know I use to do it a lot when universe and classics 1 were running ..but now either I just make them that guy.. or Hasbro or a 3p company has made one for me ... does tossing the non-screen movie and hftd guys into prime count?

 

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:02 AM

I love that we can "like" posts now!  Non-screen toys from any line are perfect fodder.  I have TFPrime Kup as part of the G1 Minibots in my mind.  Even has a place on the hood where a big "M" should go (and the height works allongside classic deluxes)


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:19 AM

We have a fairly active thread about this here.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:21 AM

I use Club Dion as Windbreaker to supplement my G2 shelf.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 02:21 AM

I generally dislike repurposing toys of less popular characters or new ones as G1 guys or characters who already have tons of updates. BW Megatron doesn't need another form.

 

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 03:57 AM

I only really repurpose characters from one continuity into another continuity as that same character. The WFC/FoC toys are their G1 selves to me even though officially they are Aligned toys. I also use Beast Hunters Abominus as G1 Abominus. And Prime Kup is Generation 2 Kup (I imagine him to have this body during the Marvel G2 comics). Prime Fallback is a Cybertronian G1 Outback. I don't do it for every character though. I don't want the likes of Prime Bumblebee to be a new body for G1 Bumblebee.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 05:39 AM

Movie Strongarm as G1 Brawn and movie Crosshairs as G1 Outback.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:23 AM

Some recent ones for me:

I should be picking up the Predacons Rising Optimus/Preadking cyberverse set today, with Optimus obviously going to be Thunderclash. Mind, the only thing that really made me want him was reading about MTMTE 22. I bought a CV Beastblade OP so I could give the shield to Thunderclash, and will be giving the remaining Green Optimus and Preadking repaint to my son.

Getting T30 Sandstorm reminded me that my Energon CJ is UT Sandstorm.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:26 AM

I don't do it personally.

Even the ones that are done so through fiction usually don't work for me.

That is unless you count repurposing the WfC / FoC guys who were always meant to be G1 guys into G1 guys instead of Aligned guys (you know who Hasbro / TakaraTomy thinks of as the same guys), then yes I do it constantly.  :thumbsup

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:11 AM

 I did get Generations GDO Swerve specifically to use him as my Classics Ironhide, after seeing a custom of the Kup version these boards that predates him that more or less did the same thing. The way I see it, his headsculpt doesn't look *old* and the colors aren't exact, but both the head and colors are close enough to work in my head, and he's still far better than the Universe 2.0 one.

 

I got Prime RID Ultra Magnus to be my IDW Magnus, since it makes a fun kind of sense for a Lawman to use a giant mallet as his weapon.

 

When Generations Voyager Springer came out and made my GDO Springer basically obsolete, I justified it as the Voyager being his IDW version, and the GDO being his Aligned version, since most of my Prime figures are Deluxes he scaled well with.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:38 AM

Prime Kup is now IDW Dipstick.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:27 AM

My plan is to repurpose Beast Hunters Bulkhead (the scout-class figure) as Roadbuster due to how the colors compare.

 

I'm already saying that DOTM Skyhammer is Whirl.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:31 AM

I've only gotten a handful of repurposings to "stick" in my mind.  Universe (2003) Inferno is a movieverse version of G1 Red Alert, Cybertron Jungle Planet Optimus Prime is BW Optimus Primal, Cyberverse DOTM Stealth Bumblebee is a movieverse version of Armada Wheeljack, and Cyberverse BH Beast Blade Optimus Prime is a Prime version of G1 Micromaster Roughstuff.  EDIT: Oh, and DOTM Specialist Ratchet as Movie Inferno (the character who's officially an Armada Red Alert redeco, not a movie version of G1 Inferno).

 

On the other hand, I give few jives about continuity of origin, which has resulted in a lot of "soft repurposings" where for instance I still think of First Edition Bulkhead as Prime Bulkhead but nevertheless I have him hanging out with Animated Activators Bumblebee.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:32 AM

 I did get Generations GDO Swerve specifically to use him as my Classics Ironhide, after seeing a custom of the Kup version these boards that predates him that more or less did the same thing. The way I see it, his headsculpt doesn't look *old* and the colors aren't exact, but both the head and colors are close enough to work in my head, and he's still far better than the Universe 2.0 one.

I did this more or less, but I casted the Universe version's head to use on Swerve's body.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

Prime Kup is now IDW Dipstick.

 

...sonofabitch. I wonder if Big Lots still has any Kups...

 

I rarely will rename a toy, I think out of an underlying desire to be able to clearly communicate about it to others without needing to recall whether I'm using the right name. I have taken to viewing FOC Air Raid as Scattershot (though I have trouble not calling him Strafe because Technobots all look alike or something) and largely at HeyMickey's suggestion FOC Sideswipe has begun to slide in to the role of Lightspeed.

 

But more commonly I only exercise repurposing in terms of moving select toys from one series to another without trying to assign a new identity. RID Bulkhead becoming a Classics Autobot, to use an example similar to ▲ndrusi's. I'll throw a fair bit of stuff in with my Classics if the visual styles will blend enough for me. It was great with Powercore Combiners in particular because hey, totally new characters! :thumbsup



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:08 PM

I've done this just a few times, mostly to figures that lack a clear identity themselves.

For instance, FoC Air Raid is clearly supposed to be a G1-ish Fireflight, going by the tech specs and bio (and he looks nothing like WfC Air Raid's character model).  So for me he's Fireflight, but after certain events in the IDW timeline I started thinking of him more as a pre-war G1 Shockwave.

Definitely that exclusive BH Commander Optimus is pretty much Thunderclash to me.  Not much of a stretch for the blue Predaking to be Cryotek either.  Prime Commander Ironhide (and Deluxe if I had one) is G1 Ironhide for me.  DotM Skyhammer is G1 Sky High to me.  Also I really wanted the MakeToys DIA Commando set to put on my Combat Hero Optimus and get a Delta Magnus, but I'm not going to be able to swing that financially.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:24 PM

Once I do some parts swapping and paints a mix of Springer and Sandstorm will be Sureshot.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:30 PM

Cybertron Quickmix was never displayed with his fellow Cybertron toys. Never.





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