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@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:42 AM)

You helped destroy western democracy, but hey, at least no-one can accuse you of bias... Oh wait, they did, still do, and are going to keep doing so as long as you report facts.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:39 AM)

Hillary was a good choice to run against Trump, the big problem was the media crawling all over themselves to try and push the idea of fairness, and threw her under the bus to do so. Any hint of impropriety was treated as being exactly the same as actual proven criminal acts by Trump in order to avoid being seen as biased... and at the end of it all, he turned around and bit them for doing so because that's who he is.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:37 AM)

Many right-wingers are using its name as part of our version of the term "libtards": "Left-green filthy".

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:35 AM)

It's the only of the "established" parties (it's almost 40 years old at this point) that has remained true to its principles.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:34 AM)

Meanwhile, some uplifting news from Germany: While our big parties are rapidly losing voters, and our new "we're not really extreme" right-wing party is gaining voters, there is one other party that is scoring massive points, both in polls and the recent Bavarian state election: The Green Party.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:33 AM)

I still think having Hillary run against Drumpf was a bad choice.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 03:32 AM)

Well on the bright side, we know more people voted for HIllary than the cheeto.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:31 AM)

I guess many a prepper might have also voted for the person most likely to bring about the end of society they are waiting for.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Now let that sink in, and then think about how many people voted for Agent Orange.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:27 AM)

Elected officials often represent how the voters either view themselves, or how they would like to be.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 12:21 AM)

Well I had 8 people watching my stream at one time tonight.. I call that a success...

@  Telly : (19 October 2018 - 11:08 PM)

my latest order from tfsource is coming from pennsylvania. all other ones have come from vegas (or thereabouts). did they move? is there a convention in pennsylvania theyre at and shipped from there?

@  MEDdMI : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

Unless it's the main cast of Persona 5.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

I realize there is a certain irony in my vocabulary selection there.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:01 PM)

People who admire public thieves and tricksters are.....sad.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Ah damn it, need to go get some new headphones.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Power was out for most of the day, and now a boil water advisory. Been a great day so far...

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Bottom line, he reminds them alternatively of all the con men they grew up with watching on television (i.e. televangelists) or their favorite character from the Bible (i.e. Old Testament God).

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:30 PM)

Bill Maher gave an excellent explanation for why the Religious Right loves Trump so much.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"NOOOO said the man in washington! It's belongs to the poor!"... oh boy was he wrong.

@  Paladin : (19 October 2018 - 04:34 PM)

see also Andrew Ryan

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 03:18 PM)

Also, "Big Father" has almost all the benefits of "Big Brother", but with none of the drawbacks.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2018 - 02:22 PM)

I'd go with "moron", personally.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 AM)

Why not both?

@  Benbot : (19 October 2018 - 09:56 AM)

I think she was a psychopath.

@  Echowarrior : (19 October 2018 - 09:50 AM)

Ayn Rand was a pretentious bitch.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 October 2018 - 09:31 AM)

But Sven makes way more sense now

@  Noideaforaname : (19 October 2018 - 09:30 AM)

Man, watching the original Voltron cartoon for the first time is so weird after having only seen the Netflix reboot.

@  D.M : (19 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

+They don't really give a crap about God. All their religious talk is just part of the mask. They wanna look like the ideal citizen (what they consider that to be) - the most Christian of all Christians, the most patriotic of all patriots, etc.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 08:13 AM)

That's because she was also greedy, heartless, and despised the poor, which is something the right often loves more than God.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

I find it rather amusing that the party of the Religious Right sees wisdom in a woman who hated the notion of God almost as much as she hated and feared the idea of being part of a family.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:39 AM)

However, another big issue is cultural differences. We do have a sense of humor, it's just different than in other cultures because it is a product of a different culture. Simply put, what you might find incredibly funny is considered unfunny by Germans... and vice versa.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:38 AM)

It's actually a multi-faceted issue. Yes, some Germans are incredibly devoid of humor, although those people exist in other countries too. I have no ideas regarding statistics, but these people exist.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:37 AM)

So, about this long-standing stereotype that "Germans have no sense of humor"...

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2018 - 03:49 AM)

I got enough Rand fighting my way through the Sword of Truth series. I can't imagine trying to read the original work.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 02:39 AM)

All the people who like Rand should go live in a big underwater city. I cannot foresee anything that could go wrong with such a scenario.

@  MidnightFox : (19 October 2018 - 01:13 AM)

Everyone needs to stop reading Rand

@  Tieria Prime : (18 October 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Gotten a new Gundam gunpla toy model kit 

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 October 2018 - 09:47 PM)

Ugh it's ridiculous how some people worship Rand's ideas.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 October 2018 - 09:07 PM)

That's one of the things the old cable companies got right: Only one or two options per area. The illusion of choice.

@  Paladin : (18 October 2018 - 08:48 PM)

business types need to stop reading Ayn Rand.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 October 2018 - 07:29 PM)

The streaming services are starting to get too saturated and start canabilising each other.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 October 2018 - 06:50 PM)

Good thing I never bought into VRV...Funimation is pulling out. And I got into HiDive at $4 a month.

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2018 - 10:21 AM)

The restauraunt messes up your food, you complain to customer service. Complain to 911 when you get food poisoning from said food.

@  MEDdMI : (18 October 2018 - 07:59 AM)

Ugh. I hate people sometimes.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

I mean, white people are calling the cops on black people for random shit lately, it appears.

@  Pennpenn : (18 October 2018 - 02:49 AM)

It's not that surprising that some people freaked out enough over Youtube being down that they'd call emergency services. I mean, I've heard of at least one instance of someone calling 911 because the restaurant didn't make a cheeseburger to their liking.


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#21 Creature SH

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:25 PM

A Gotham Central show, I see working. But yeah, as a prequel, it's going to have all of the issues of Smallville, which I loathed.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 02:23 AM

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Back in September, it was announced that FOX had given a straight-to-series order to a new live-action television series entitled Gotham, which was purportedly an origin story for Commissioner Gordon. Many of us were left wondering how the network planned to do a comic-based TV show without a superhero at its center. What would distinguish Gotham from another cop/detective series?

At today's TCA (Television Critics Association) press tour Chairman of Entertainment at FOX Kevin Reilly revealed that this series would indeed function as an origin story for Batman.

 

"This is an origin story for young Bruce Wayne," Reilly said, promising that all of the classic Batman characters and villains would make an appearance, including: The Penguin, The Riddler, Commissioner Gordon, and The Joker. This is a series about "Gotham on the brink" he said, and "how they all became who they were, what events led up to these characters becoming Catwoman [and so on]." The Chairman described the series as "operatic" and "larger-than-life."

It will follow Bruce Wayne from childhood through his development into the Dark Night, with the final episode marking the moment when he puts on the cape. They're not certain what age young Bruce will be at this point, but Reilly estimates that he will be about 13 at the start of the series. "The actor will grow-up, if we do our job well he'll be a young man and ready [to be Batman] by the end," he said. "Which isn't to say we might not skip ahead."

 

Reilly followed up by saying that this would be a serialized show that will function on its own, separate from the Warner Brothers DC cinematic universe. "We own all the rights.That's what we're licencing," he said. "They brought us the entire franchise for a very healthy licence fee. We're not negotiating this piece meal. We have all of the underlying Batman rights for the entire franchise for this series."

He continued, saying, "That's what I like about this, it's not some sort of adjunct companion series. This is the Batman franchise, just backing it up. I think that gives it a real focus as to what the show is about and what stories we're telling."

There will be no connection to the Batman/Bruce Wayne that Ben Affleck will be introducing in Zack Snyder's Man of Steel 2, tentatively titled Batman vs. Superman. "Warner Brothers manages the entire franchise and its one of their top global franchises of all," Reilly said."So there will be an awareness of both and we'll have to coordinate when we're in the market place, but the productions are not piggy-backing off one another."

The series will be in the vein of the grittier tone that Christopher Nolan established in his Dark Knight trilogy, it will be very organic to that world, though Nolan will not have a direct connection to the production. We won't see Batman's cape and cowl till the series' conclusion, as mentioned, and it will be a slow reveal on the Supervillains alter-egos as well. "We're arcing to that," Reilly clarified. "We're not starting in that world where the villains are in costume. You see markers for it that are kind of delicious. You begin to see the evolution of the eccentricities that become those characters, but you really sort of arc there. We don't start out in capes and costumes."

When asked if there is a possibility that they may spinoff additional characters, Reilly said that he "certainly hopes so." Adding, "Do I think we'll peel out The Riddler? I don't. There's a large tapestry of characters to service over many years. So I hope we can just keep it on for a long, long run."

As the the number of episodes, Reilly jokes that, "Warner Brothers would like it to be 22 because they'd like as many as they can get," but no decisions have been made in regards to either the length of the series or a premiere date.

The show begins staffing shortly, with scripts expected to quickly following.

We will keep you updated as details on this series emerge.

 

I don't like the sound of any of this. At least in Smallville he still had powers. In this we will have a child. In Gotham. With villains running about that he can't deal with. Just... no thanks.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 04:18 AM

Nope.

Not interested.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:00 AM


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:31 AM

So its a show explaining why Bruce Wayne never showed up in Smallville. Eh. With a bit of that ever elusive competency, anything's possible.

 

At least it sounds more excited than the Agents of Shield show we have now, if only that we'll actually see comic book characters in this one..



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:50 AM

This is only going to make me sad and angry, just like Smallville.

 

Or, more accurately, like Smallville would have if I hadn't stopped watching somewhere during the first season.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:51 AM

Ooo!  Ooo!  I bet the Joker and all the rest will be high school buddies of Bruce to add to the angst!  The Penguin will be that nerdy kid in the corner that no one ever appreciated and thus embarked on a life of crime!  Joker will be the star athlete jokester scarred by a horrible astroturf accident!  Riddler will be that kid with Tourette's!  Bane will be the special episode about steroid abuse!  Cat Woman will be the school slut out for vengeance for those that talked about her on Facebook!

 

Yeah, this is gonna suck.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:12 AM

 

Ooo!  Ooo!  I bet the Joker and all the rest will be high school buddies of Bruce to add to the angst!  The Penguin will be that nerdy kid in the corner that no one ever appreciated and thus embarked on a life of crime!  Joker will be the star athlete jokester scarred by a horrible astroturf accident!  Riddler will be that kid with Tourette's!  Bane will be the special episode about steroid abuse!  Cat Woman will be the school slut out for vengeance for those that talked about her on Facebook!

 

Yeah, this is gonna suck.

 

They already pitched that jive back in 2010.

 

Oh wow.

 

It's nice to know even my most intentionally terrible ideas are somehow viable for WB.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Every time I manage to repress the memory of that, someone somewhere brings it up.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:25 AM

So, this.

 



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

Oh wow. That was well done!


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 02:08 PM

This seems like the sort of idea that could be good for two or three seasons and then outgrow its premise.  You can only hint at and build up to the inevitable for so long.  That's why I quit watching Smallville, even though I liked it in the beginning.

 

Arrow, on the other hand, started at the interesting part.  It might not be the most compelling show, but at least it doesn't have to take weird plot twists to avoid hitting a particular plot point.

 

That said...I'm a Batman fan.  I'll watch it unless it becomes really bad.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

Sounds terrible.  Smallville was bad enough.  I don't want to go through that again.  The whole series is one huge tease.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 02:16 PM

Actually, I thought the series had potential in the idea of exploring rookie cop/detective Jim Gordon coming to Gotham City, seeing the corruption and the crazy (maybe be forced to take down some other vigilantes who ultimately prove to be doing right).   Then move to a season or two later  where he's put in charge of investigating the supposed "Bat-Man" whispered in rumor.  After a season or two of that angle, finally make them oddball partners in superhero detective partnership investigating the increasing number of extreme criminals Gotham has spawned.

 

I could see a solid 6 plus seasons in all that.  

 

But no, can't have a Batman thing without Batman.  And my real fear is that this series is going to suffer Smallville syndrome where it vastly outstays its premise and avoids the costume and whatnot WAY longer than it should.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 02:18 PM

I enjoyed Smallville except seasons 5.5 - 7. Really, Smallville should have only been 4 seasons. There was no need for it to be 10. Teen heroes have always been one of my favorite areas to explore.

 

As far as this goes, I'll give it a chance, but one thing I've always loved about Batman was the uncomfortable fact that he elevated the villains in Gotham to become super villains. I'm not too keen on this notion that the super villains existed before Batman.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:34 PM

Sorry guys, all this needs to have is teenage Harley Quinn and I'm sold. Don't know where all this negativity is coming from.

 

Maybe it because I was the only one who actually read that the show would "what events led up to" these characters becoming the villains they are destined to become, not the villains themselves. I see people posting comments like they expect the Joker in full clown makeup will be created death traps in amusement parks while Bruce is still in High School.

 

What I expect to see is an aspiring comedian with little real talent becoming more and more disillussioned as he starts fall in with bad crowds and crime bosses. Show Harley having a high school crush on him. You know, show the type of events which would eventually lead up to the Ace Chemical disaster without ever actually giving us the Joker until the very last episode. Could make for a very effective finale for the entire show.

 

All it would take is good writing; its not nearly as impossible a concept to make good like all of you are making it out to be.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 08:10 PM

No thanks, not interested.

 

Seriously, you shouldn't spend an entire series about how Bruce Wayne became Batman. One movie at most, yes, but an entire series? Heck no. I'd rather Fox reshow that Timm-Dini-Burnett series from the early nineties, or better, give me a Batman series with, y'know, BATMAN. 


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:10 PM

So, this.

 

 

 

make it a comedy and ill watch


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:48 PM

Batman/Bruce Wayne is the World's Greatest Detective.

 

A young Bruce Wayne doesn't need to roam the rooftops in order to solve crimes like a young Sherlock Holmes or Veronica Mars.  He could be an awkward shut-in nerd with no ability to physically handle himself.  As he gets in over his head a few times over the course of the series, he realizes he needs to start working on his combat skills, and starts training with Alfred.  To keep his rep as a detective on the d/l, maybe he turns in evidence to Gordon without identifying himself... which he eventually does as Batman, anyway.

 

Maybe that's a stretch, but a "Veronica Mars" set in Gotham City doesn't sound so bad.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

All it would take is good writing

Man, you have high hopes.

 

Still, it runs straight into the same problem either way, where you spend the whole series waiting for Bruce to be Batman, except it's compounded by waiting for all the villains to become who we already know them to be.  Plus, giving the Joker a definitive origin kind of undoes a lot of what makes the Joker so remarkable these days, since he has no real set origin story.


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