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@  unluckiness : (22 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nah, they could tell by the lack of the very distinctive dialogue delivery. They just didn't want to be mean.

@  Dracula : (22 August 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Moon base is fine. I knew the castle was a total loss so I gave Olrox my best cape and told him he could have the throne room. The damn belmonts couldn't tell the difference

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 06:39 AM)

It's probably because that's a direct quote rather than an attempt to self censor

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 August 2017 - 06:26 AM)

"shit" isn't filtered anymore

@  Donocropolis : (22 August 2017 - 05:51 AM)

Elvis doesn't do sh*t.

@  Pennpenn : (22 August 2017 - 03:38 AM)

Fine, though Elvis has a bit of a headache.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 August 2017 - 03:27 AM)

How's his moon base?

@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)


@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 04:38 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents cover "Targer: Omega!" of SoD Shockwave/Soundwave.


Art by Joe Teanby and Charlotte.

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 05:55 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents "The Transmogrification Occurrence" (1).

Deemed too unstable to be deployed in battle, the gigantic Metroplex is being confined in an uninhabited solar system, where his trusted team (Scamper, Slammer, Six-Gun) takes care of his huge spaceship alt-mode, performing maintenance, experimenting on fringe cyberinterface technologies...and facing unscheduled threats by a lone Decepticon bounty hunter!

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 03:00 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception
presents Magnificent Crisis .

With the Dead Universe defeated, Optimus Prime and the Autobots return to their everyday cold war against the Decepticon... but the crisis is far from over! By using the Magnificence power, Hot Rod started an irreversible universal change: when mechanoids, persons and planets begin to morph into alternate versions of themselves, who will stand up to prevent reality becoming a jumbled chaos that will ultimately self-destruct?

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 04:30 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents Magnificent Saga in PDF format.

Collecting Magnificent Premonition, The Artifacts, Poisoned Chalice, Magnificent Crisis, this comic delves deep in the Transformers mythology of present, past and future!


During The War Within, Optimus Prime and Megatron experienced a vision of an impossible "G1" future: in present time, during the events of Escalation, the same vision returns... showing Beast Wars, Beast Machines and even Dai-Atlas!
From another reality, Macabre enters this one, facing Hot Rod and exposing the dire consequences of using the cursed Instrument Of Destruction known as the Magnificence.
Before reality goes completely bad, losing any internal logic and consistency, will Hot Rod find the strength to use the Matrix Goblet and make the final sacrifice?

The whole Magnificent Saga is now collected in one easy-to-download PDF file, featuring bonus sketch art for Rodimus Prime, and a Secret File revealing a glimpse of Rodimus Prime's future and the origin of the Unity Sceptre .

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 07:27 AM

 Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents three new pages of "The Transmogrification Occurrence" (1).

What's happening inside Metroplex? As Scamper, Six-Gun and Slammer faces the first salvo of Axer's attack, a flashback battle against Scorponok reveals the reasons of Axer's attempt at stealing Metroplex's Transmogrification Drive!

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 11:06 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Differentiation (Act 4): Manipulation.

Astrotrain has made a deal with the devil he knows-- that is, Ratbat! But how does this creepy mechanoid plans to use his Energon-sucking skills to save Megatron from the Mini-Reaper infection that has paralized his systems?
Find out nowm, as Differentiation leads to... Separation. Now more than ever, The Future is -Ation!

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:11 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents
the 'Stalwart' Diaclone base.

From the pages of Magnificent Crisis, the guardian of the most secret Autobot facility in the whole galaxy: the Stalwart, protector of the Musoh-Sei Station!


By Joe Teanby, Chris Ludwig.

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Posted 28 August 2016 - 03:57 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents The True Identity of Rodimus Prime (an essay).

At the end of Magnificent Crisis, Rodimus Prime entered the universe of Transformers: "Seeds of Deception" comics. The real Rodimus Prime, the Autobot Leader invested by the Matrix.
But what inspired this reimagining of the character in War Within/-Ation style? It was the original >G1 counterpart-- a figure as complex and mature as was rarely or never seen in Transformers cartoons, as this article is going to explain.


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 03:08 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents Trypticon's evolution designs for The Future Is -Ation.


After his return in Stormbringer II, Galvatron starts enlisting Decepticon warriors for his own private army (starting with the Monstructor Six and Sixshot).
In order to salvage a certain planetary item that was stolen from Cybertron by the Quintessons, and hidden on a planet that is well known to Wheelie, Galvatron will probably have to resort to Trypticon's might... even if this means seizing the most defended Decepticon space station in the galaxy, and finding the resources to reformat it!

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 09:22 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Differentiation (Act 2): Confrontation.

The Infiltration Protocols have been reinstated! How do you divert the attention of the US Air Force from your own secret Bunker? By staging an assault on one of their bases and pretending you are a Cobra jet squadron, of course.
And for the first time ever, Starscream meets his maker: will the Null Ray prove enough to stop Jhiaxus' advance, as he marches on in his plan to rewrite the galaxy in Nemesis Prime's image?

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 05:08 PM

Differentiation: cover "Jee Axed Him!"

Seeds Of Deception presents the Jhiaxus/Starscream cover of Differentiation: "Jee Axed Him!"

Starscream is about to meet his own maker-- in more than one sense?

Art by Ibai Canales.

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:58 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the cover of "The Transmogrification Occurrence" (1).

Metroplex has been invaded by the soon-to-be ActionMaster Axer! Will Scamper, Six-Gun, and Slammer (aka the MetroTeam) be able to stop him from stealing the Transmogrification Drive?
It's alt-mode galore, as these Transformers reveals their never-seen-before transformations!


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Posted 27 February 2017 - 04:39 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the "Emersion" bonus art for the Metroplex series.

A tribute to the classic G1 Marvel Uk saga Space Pirates, this art features Metroplex emerging from the bedrock underneath Autobot City!


By Joe Teanby, Chris Ludwig.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 12:51 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents two new pages of "The Transmogrification Occurrence" (1).

After invading Metroplex's spaceship form, bounty hunter Axer has managed to put the MetroTeam out of commission, and seize the Transmogrification Drive.
All Axer must do now is leave-- but will he survive the surprise of a Fantastic Voyage among the wonders of Metroplex's incredibly-vast structure?


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:01 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the final act of Trannis.

As the conspiracy weaved by the Underground Movement grows, Trannis and his allies Shockwave and Soundwave focus their effort on exterminating the leaders of the peaceful society that rules Cybertron-- Sentinel Prime and Omega Supreme!
When the last moon falls, and the daylight of the Golden Age is replaced by a dark and fateful night, the Decepticons are born, and Megatron rises. The mystery of the Gladiator and Trannis is finally solved-- spelling doom for the whole planet.
The Civil War has begun!

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 04:27 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the final act of Jetfire/Grimlock.

The Civil War has begun!
Jetfire must witness the fall of Omega Supreme, ravaged by a CerebroShell, while Grimlock stands before the honor-less slaughter of weak mechanoids-- shall they remain in the Decepticon army, or join its opposite number? And what consequences will that bring?
It's the end of an era and the beginning of another one, seen through the twin eyes of the scientist and the warrior!

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 03:26 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the studies for Arise, Females!

Crashlanded on Cybertron while escaping from the merciless conquering army of Nova Prime and Jhiaxus, the Lunars of Moon Beta found themselves in the toxic environment of the Junklands-- a place turned into a poisonous nightmare by millennia of reckless disposal of industrial waste.
Able to adapt, the Lunars absorbed all sort of junk, transforming their bodies into forms that could withstand that harsh environment-- and they became the Junkions.
Among the piles of garbage of the Junklands, a special section was reserved to Jhiaxus' failed experiments-- such as the corpses of the Cybertronians turned into females.
One day the Junkions realized that one of those corpses was not a corpse at all: it took a long time, but they were able to salvage, fix and heal the latest victim of Jhiaxus' perversions.
And when she finally came back online, fully restored, Arcee's quest for revenge and identity began!


Art by Milad Taleghani.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 04:46 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the model sheet of War Within Bruticus.


Although Bruticus was never featured in the Transformers: War Within books, the Gestalts were already a reality for groups such as the Constructicons and the Protectobots. And with four Combaticons whose Cybertronian alt-modes had already appeared in the series, a model sheet for Bruticus was bound to appear sooner or later.
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