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@  Paladin : (23 July 2019 - 07:23 AM)

anything burns if it gets hot enough.

@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 07:12 AM)

That's why you should keep your under-the-bed money in gold and silver--that won't burn!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 July 2019 - 05:34 AM)


@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 July 2019 - 02:24 AM)

Disparaging the youth has been a pastime for thousands of years. Pretty much every society we have writing from has some version of "kids these days" at some point.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 July 2019 - 02:21 AM)

Numfar! dance of pain.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 July 2019 - 01:49 AM)

If the USA vanished from Earth prior to millennials (later to be joined by Generation Z) coming of age, would the global community have the same magnitude of disparaging upon youths as a pastime because old boomers are insecure about their inability to handle new technology?

@  Ashley : (23 July 2019 - 12:02 AM)

This wasn't that, this was a "we don't trust banks!" thing

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 11:57 PM)

Well I know when I first got my back pay for disability, some of the paperwork said I couldn't have so much in the bank after 30 days...so I had to take out a huge chunk of cash.

@  Ashley : (22 July 2019 - 11:53 PM)

I know a family who lost thousands of dollars in a house fire because they were literally keeping it under the bed. Don't underestimate the USA's luddism.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 10:39 PM)

The US is filled with people LITERALLY proud of their ignorance of tech. Don't expect the US to be a major power in the next 30 years.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 10:25 PM)

Most people in Australia that I've heard of use electronic transactions for rent (and similar things). I mean, doubtless there are some people who use cash for various reasons of varying levels of ethics, but most require electronic transfers.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:22 PM)

But I don't understand Paladin's premise of "allowing the landlord access to one's bank account". I'm pretty sure I have acquaintances who pay monthly by check or automated bank transfer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:15 PM)

I know many lower-end restaurants in the USA take cash only as a probable method of tax evasion. Perhaps that is why some landlords do as well. Alternatively, such people demand cash upfront because they have thin profit margins or whatever and are too afraid of spending the time and effort to pursue someone whose check or electronic payment bounced.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:14 PM)

@Nevermore The USA is a place where lots of people can proliferate at being technologically behind. e.g. almost no one accepts or pays by contactless yet despite the inherent security of the process. And by having a population of over 300 million we can generate large quantities of believers in the Luddite fallacy and such.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:59 PM)

I pay by credit card whenever possible for the rewards/points, but utilities don't usually allow that so those I just pay through the online bill payment feature rather than mess around with pre-authorizations

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:57 PM)

Most monthly or whatever payments are done electronically around here, I think. Mine certainly are. Whether by pre-authorized debit, an e-transfer (transfer from one bank account to another), or your bank's online bill payment system/database

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:04 PM)

If I overpaid, it may take several months for them to pay me back the difference. If I underpaid, they're very quick with demanding the difference.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:03 PM)

Meanwhile, I can write a tax report, but since the employer already deduced the standard legal taxes from my monthly payment, the tax report is also mostly just to let the tax authority determine if I underpaid or overpaid.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:02 PM)

Based on my average costs for the year, they will then calculate the estimated monthly costs for the upcoming year.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:01 PM)

At the end of the year, the power company will send me an annual invoice which shows if I overpaid or underpaid. If I overpaid, the difference may just be deduced from my December bill.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

I also pay my monthly gas and electricity bills that way.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

It's funny. Here in Germany, many people still pay cash in stores, restaurants etc. (the staff usually asks "cash or wireless?"), but many regular payments are handled wirelessly and automatically.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Around the same time, I get sent a slip from payroll that lists my gross income, all the deductions and the net income, i.e. the final transaction sum.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:56 PM)

My monthly payment from my employer is wirelessly transferred to my bank account. Taxes, health insurance, unemployment insurance and social security fees are calculated by the payroll department, handled by the employer, and I just get paid the rest after taxes and everything.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

yes. you're assuming US employers would pay fairly & take fairly.

@  Telly : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

we dont get paid on a monthly basis, if thats what you mean. i myself get paid every 2 weeks. some are every week. and if im telling you something you already know, just ignore me...

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:54 PM)

Which I assume doesn't work that way in the US either?

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:53 PM)

That way you may time the transaction with your monthly payment from your employer.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:52 PM)

You don't need to give the landlord access to anything. You go to your bank, show the clerk your bank account card, give them the landlord's bank details, tell them the exact amount of the rent and which day of the month the transaction should happen, sign the order, and you're done.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:49 PM)

most Americans wouldn't trust a landlord with access to their bank account.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:47 PM)

Do people in other countries really still pay their landlords in cash? Here in Germany, it's very common to have the payment as an automated bank transaction on a set day of the month, so if the payment is late, it's either the bank's fault, or there's not enough money on the bank account.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

meanwhile some of us are trying to calculate if they'll have a spare forty bucks at the end of the week for some food...

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 07:20 AM)

At least I can see where the 600 US bucks is going in this case. The MP line looks more ridiculous by the day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 July 2019 - 07:09 AM)

It's ridiculous. I'll stick to Armadacron

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 06:13 AM)

If anything, shipping is going to make the actual toy's price look affordable.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 02:28 AM)

Its like, $550 ish in US money (so probably about $800 for my Australian self) and is taller than TR Fort Max. He's gonna be a hefty boy.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 July 2019 - 10:05 PM)

Damn, that Unicron looks big. Not gonna be cheap

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2019 - 09:09 PM)

"By the way, your landlord called. Something about being late with the rent."

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2019 - 04:09 PM)

"Hi there, I'm Unicron. Your husband ordered me."

@  unluckiness : (21 July 2019 - 09:04 AM)

"Perhaps I misjudged you. Proceed on your way to the couch."

@  Donocropolis : (21 July 2019 - 07:33 AM)

I'm just afraid of what my wife would do to me if it showed up at our door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2019 - 01:23 AM)

Giant Robot Satan has that effect on people.

@  Ashley : (21 July 2019 - 12:31 AM)

So, I might not be able to get Hasbro Pulse Unicron because my mother is afraid of it

@  Pennpenn : (20 July 2019 - 09:58 PM)

But that's neither here nor there.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Six of one, half-dozen of the other.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 July 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Both maybe?

@  Benbot : (20 July 2019 - 04:44 PM)

Do you need a criminal lawyer or a criminal, lawyer.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 July 2019 - 10:40 AM)

I don't suppose the allspark has any criminal lawyers from Georgia. ;P

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

It seems like, with these kind of things, anything not TF-specific is either in an existing thread or just not discussed since they're not part of something deemed important enough to get its own thread already.

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:45 PM)

Yeah, but it's for Transformers specifically

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#21 M3Gr1ml0ck

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 08:46 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents act 3 of Wrath Of The Ages #5.


(Also check out  Act 2, Megatron's Attack which we were not able to advertise here)


At the bottom of the Mining Shaft, the tide begins to turn: as Megatron batters the horribly mutated Grimlock, Blaster's plan comes to fruition. From defeat, comes freedom for the enslaved Autobots! But will even Ultra Magnus and Springer be enough against the endless army of Aerial Extermination Troopers?
On Quintessa, Flash escapes the Quintessons, dodging the Sharkticons as well--and sees a sudden glimmer of hope, as he realizes that there IS a way to return to Cybertron.
On the Manganese Mountains, Ratbat attempts to exterminate the remaining Wreckers, but someone makes an unexpected return!

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Art by Daniele "danbrenus" Spezzani, Al, Hedge, Esther Pimentel.

Bonus: character study by Masarujasu for the in-the-making Act 4 of the SoD: Starscream chapter.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 02:11 PM

Wrath Of The Ages #5 - Final act: return of the Autobot hero!

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the final act of Wrath Of The Ages #5.

As Perceptor initiates his attempt at defeating a whole army of A.E. Troopers, thr Turbomasters find a way to reach planet Quintessa and take back someone...but who will come through the dimensional gateway?
Meanwnhile, Megatron battles the Hybrid Grimlock at the bottom of the Mining Shaft, and Ultra Magnus begins to suspect the truth about the resurrected warrior!

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Art by Daniele "danbrenus" Spezzani, Esther Pimentel, Nicodemus Rexx, Ria, Zerob.

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 03:35 PM

Wrath Of The Ages #5 is available for download or online browsing in collected PDF edition.

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:01 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the first act of Wrath Of The Ages #6.

On Quintessa, Turbomaster Flash finds a way to return home... but will this bring another invading army on Cybertron, spelling further disaster for an already doomed planet?
On Cybertron, Soundwave sends the Aerial Extermination Troopers in support of Megatron, but Broadside enters the fray...taking the whole Wrecker roster to the battleground!

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Art by Daniele "danbrenus" Spezzani, Nicodemus Rexx.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 06:01 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents Short Story: Leader.

Optimus Prime, Jazz and Grimlock prepare for the opening act of The War Within: The Dark Ages: with Megatron preparing to activate the Space Bridge Prototype, shall Optimus Prime face him alone?.


By Daniele Spezzani, Nate Hammond.

Bonus: a Grimlock-color-scheme-only version of panels 2-4 from page 3 of Wrath Of The Ages #5.


Based on the synopsis of the unreleased issues of The War Within: The Age Of Wrath, Transformers: Wrath Of The Ages is the unofficial conclusion of the Dreamwave miniseries by Simon Furman and Joe Ng that was halted at issue #3.

Wrath Of The Ages is part of the Transformers: Seeds Of Deception continuity a fanproject which was conceived as an expansion of The War Within and a bridge between that universe and the -Ation series.

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:49 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the conclusion of A Tale of Two City-Bots.

Trypticon's final evolution, the birth of Metroplex, the destiny of Nebulos, the secret of the Decepticon Siege Mode Bunkers, the arrival of Scamper and Six-Gun, Slammer's robot mode: a bonanza of robotic titans, hybrid technologies, age-spanning events, star-spanning battles.
In a nutshell, pure Transformers epic!

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By Jeremy Tiongson, Zerob, Eman B. Zubia, Caroline Richard.

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 02:07 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the second act of Wrath Of The Ages #6.

Optimus Prime is back, and ready to lead the Autobots against the Decepticons!
Megatron is cornering the Hybrid Grimlock/Seeker, but Ultra Magnus won't sit idly to watch-- and neither will the Quintessons, as they realize that their plan is now seriously threatened by the new players in the game.
Back on Cybertron, Flash is not out of the woods yet-- but will his call for help be answered by a Turbormaster...or by Spinister and Carnivac?


Art by Daniele "danbrenus" Spezzani, Hedge, Zerob[/url, Nicodemus Rexx, [url=http://gwydion1982.deviantart.com]Simone Daraghiati.

#28 M3Gr1ml0ck

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 04:17 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the third act of Wrath Of The Ages #6.

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Art by Daniele "danbrenus" Spezzani, Eleonora, Nicodemus Rexx,, Zerob, Brandy Dixon, OrangeFigure.

Also don't miss these art bonus updates on our blog:
A Sentry for Starscream – A combined mode for Blaster and his Cassettes
Works from the "Top Heavy" comic artist

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 05:09 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents

the Bios and Tech Files for Scamper, Slammer and Six-Guns, the three Curators of Metroplex.

The secrets of the so-called Metroplex Team are finally out: does Six-Guns have an actual alt mode? What is a Transmogrification Drive? Can Slammer trasform into a robot? What are a SixCar, a SixTank and a SixWing?
Metroplex alone is a a wonder by himself: a Transformer large enough to turn into a city that can host other Cybertronians. How advanced and complex must be the technology behind his existence? And what sort of effect does it have on those that are bound to live within the boundaries of Metroplex' world-like body?

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Art by Joe Teanby.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 07:55 AM

Action Master Axer's alt-mode

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the Obscure G1 Transformers art gallery, starting with the character studies for Action Master Axer.

Before becoming an Action Masters, Axer had a Cybertronian alt-mode, revealed here for the first time!
And how did his transformable motorbike look like, before being reformated as a Earth vehicle?


Check out the commentary section with hints of the online comic that will feature Axer and Metroplex!

By Gianluca Gamba, Navtej Heer, Franco Villa.

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Posted 09 August 2015 - 04:10 PM

Coming soon.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 04:11 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the cover of A Tale of Two City-Bots.


It's the weight of the world for Metroplex, in a tribute to Guido Guidi's artwork for the <b>Armada</b> comics!


By Speedy.

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 08:17 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents A Tale of Two City-Bots in PDF format.

The whole SoD Metroplex saga is now collected in one easy-to-download PDF file, featuring a Spotlight-themed intro and bonus art for Full-Tilt, Brunt, Scamper, Slammer and Six-Gun.

Long before the Civil War. Before the Golden Age.
Even before the Prime Dynasty...there were the Lawless Times.
An age without rules, where only the strong and the ruthless would thrive.
An age where creatures undreamed of walked the scarred, tormented surface of Cybertron.
Monsters, giants, celestials, abominations... and Titans.
One of them was bound to survive the end of that age of wonders, and cross the eons to the present day. He would come to be known as...


Edited by M3Gr1ml0ck, 23 August 2015 - 08:18 AM.

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Posted 30 August 2015 - 06:47 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents act IV of Starscream: "The Gladiator".

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Starscream has climbed the social ladder, becoming a very popular Cybertronian officer of law: everybody appreciates him, his teammates would die for him, and every corrupted businessmech on Cybertron wants to make deal with him.
For Starscream, of course, this is NOT ENOUGH!
Witness as Starscreams steps in the path of the Gladiator, and begins to worm his way inside the Underground Movement and the Gladiatorial Arenas...until the day Civil War erupts, and his true nemesis is revealed!

Art by Masarujasu.

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 02:54 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents an all-Decepticon triple feature!

1. Cover "Dark Apotheosis" of SoD: Trannis, featuring Megatron.
2. Cover "Into The Arena" of SoD: Starscream.
3. Swindle's "War Within" model sheet.

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By Masarujasu, Zeron.

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 11:25 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents act III of Starscream: "ATLEA".

It's the beginning of the Golden Age! Young Starscream is back on Cybertron, as a respected member of the Anti-Technoabuse Law Enforcement Agency. Really? Is he truly standing for the rights of other mechs?
Featuring G2 Snipe, Technobot Lightspeed, Aerialbot Skydive, Triggercon Windsweeper and some unexpected G2 foes, this act is more than meets the eye!

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Also featured, industrial businessmechs Ratbat and Scorponok, plus some RotorForce and Laser Rod bots!

Art by Lee Ji Hyun, Sin-nos.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 05:07 PM

SoD Shockwave/Soundwave: the Omega Battle!

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents pages 16-18 of SoD Shockwave/Soundwave.

It's the Omega Battle!

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It's the very beggining of the Civil War! With Omega Supreme taken out of the equation by a two-pronged assault, the Omega Sentinels cannot rise to defend the Cybertronian Citistates against the overwhelming Decepticon Insurgence!

Art by Zerob, Tomoko.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 06:37 AM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents the end Wrath Of The Ages #6.

It's now or never! What is happening to Grimlock? Will the damaged Optimus Prime manage to withstand the fury of Megatron? Will Flash' race be doomed by the hands of Carnivac and Spinister? And what can stop the unstoppable Aerial Extermination Drones?
Everything comes crashing together in the great finale!

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Art by Daniele "danbrenus" Spezzani, Nicodemus Rexx, Esther Pimentel, Zerob, Hedge, OGE, Lauren Mays.

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:06 AM

Seeds Of Deception presents Differentiation (Act 2): Manipulation.

Ratbat is back in style, continuing to develop the untold events of The Future is -Ation.
With Megatron out of the game, The mind-controlling, energon-sucking diminutive Decepticon is ready to ignite his own plans for the control of Earth...starting with the manipulation of the elite soldiers of an unnamed special forces unit that came to investigate the site of the battle against the Reapers.
Is this the return of the Carwash of Doom? (Just kidding!)

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Bonus art: Captain Ackles and Colonel Williamson.

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 05:32 PM

Transformers: Seeds Of Deception presents pages 16-18 of SoD Shockwave/Soundwave.

The lives of Shockwave and Soundwave take an all different turn, as they fail/succeed to accomplish their main goals. And untold events of Omega Supreme's brush with death are revealed for the first time.

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Art by Zerob.

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