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@  Bass X0 : (16 July 2020 - 09:43 AM)

Circuit-breaker '84, this is Megatron's rubber duck. We've got ourselves a Rodimus Convoy. Do you copy? Over.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 07:06 AM)

I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've made my point very clear and have nothing more to say on the issue.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 07:00 AM)

I can't do anything to prevent hurricanes either but it'd be absurd to suggest I therefore shouldn't talk about them.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:57 AM)

Basically neither you nor I even like South Park anyways so the best you can do is leave it alone rather than suggest it is corrupting hearts and minds.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

In that case I'm... not sure what the point is?

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:53 AM)

Nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. You can't prevent people from doing it. It's an artistic work with fans. I don't think I'm off-track.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:51 AM)

As far as I can tell you just of course'd the thing you were poopooing...

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

Also, this is starting to get a bit too serious for the shoutbox (though it already was)

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

"It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing." Of course, that's South Park's "artistic" style. It's what South Park's audience wants, and that's okay.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

You can probably finish the sentence "I got 50% of my sense of humor from" with the name of some fictional work.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

And it still wouldn't be S.W.A.T.'ss or Grey's Anatomy's or South Park's fault.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

The idea isn't that people are taking South Park's in-universe parody moral lessons seriously (though as Nevermore points out, you can't safely assume that isn't also happening). It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

"People say" those people are right, and you should listen to them. We can't protect people from themselves, but you can advise them well.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:27 AM)

So many medical disasters because someone took what they saw on a hospital show at face value.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:25 AM)

So many people who think police and court procedure works like it does in Hollywood, and act accordingly. Sometimes to their own disadvantage, sometimes just to the frustration of well-meaning authorities.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:24 AM)

People say "you shouldn't take your morals from a TV show" all the time, but regardless of how these people want things to work doesn't mean other people aren't doing it anyways.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:01 AM)

And I mean, if you're looking for a 1950s conservative position on something, it's certainly that a TV show is rotting children's minds.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:00 AM)

Conservatives are not hiding under the bed waiting to ruin... uh... Family Guy of all things? And like, nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. Expecting such things is impractical.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

It was just the cartoon with those foul mouthed kids in the UK until that bubble burst after the movie. Reviewers joked the movies target audience would be unable to see it for the rating.

@  Paladin : (15 July 2020 - 05:14 PM)

see also: "South Park." the show that poisoned a generation by teaching them "it's stupid to feel for other people."

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:04 AM)

'Take that! People who care about things!'

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:02 AM)

With Brian, he stopped being the voice of reason and started to be the right wing notion of a liberal, someone who's lazy, pretentious, doesn't work at anything, is every bit as abusive as the rest of the cast and only wins arguments with strawmen.

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

Of course, I stopped enjoying Family Guy around that time, so my bias is clear. XP

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:54 AM)

Is it because they changed or we changed?  Stuff that was charming, or at least, funny at first can get really annoying the longer you know a person... and I find that can go for fictional characters as well.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

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@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:45 AM)

One example is Family Guy where around season 8 Brian is suddenly reviled by everyone and has acted way out of character since.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:44 AM)

My least favorite thing in fiction is when it changes hands so you get a author, writer or showrunner who hates a character or messes with a arc/layout.

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

You'll shoot yer eye out, kid.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I shot the sheriff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:24 PM)

han wasn't even in the movie until later

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:23 PM)

the stormtroopers shot first

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Maclunkey

@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH


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#1 Random Items

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:51 PM

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CW president Mark Pedowitz used his platform Tuesday at the Television Critics Association's summer press tour to announce that his network is fast-tracking Flash, a drama based on the famed DC Comics hero and member of the Justice League of America.

The network will look to Arrow co-creators/executive producers Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg and director David Nutter to introduce the lightning-fast character during the second season of Arrow.

"We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash," Pedowitz told reporters. "We're planning an origin story and we'll see how it goes. We do want to expand on the DC Universe, and we felt this is a very organic way to get there."


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:59 PM

hrm...
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:00 PM

CW? Pass.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

Well, Arrow's a pretty decent show, so this could be good. Maybe this time it'll involve Wally West. After all, DC's been screwing him over since Flashpoi-
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We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash,

Dammit.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:01 PM

AND PASS ON THIS!

Ironbite-though if this is WB's way of setting up it's universe.....good luck.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:18 PM

Starring Boring Allen?

No thank you.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:36 PM

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Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.

I'll only watch this if they cast either Neil Patrick Harris or Jensen Ackles as Barry.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 30 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.


Oh, so the same personality transplant Hal Jordan got when "he got better" from his little "I'm going to blow up the sun" phase.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

NPH is a little too busy to do such a thing, and besides, if he did, the ensuing explosive internet fangasm would take months to clean up.
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:15 PM

NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.


But he was excellent as The Music Meister.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE(Stungun @ Jul 30 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Arrow's a pretty decent show, so this could be good. Maybe this time it'll involve Wally West. After all, DC's been screwing him over since Flashpoi-
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We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash,

Dammit.


When I was growing up, watching Justice League: Unlimited, the Flash for me was Wally. Nowadays, they use the boring old guy, and I don't understand why.

It's basically the same thing with John Stewart and Hal Jordan, for me.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:41 PM

Start it with a Dexter crossover.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.

I disagree. He already voiced him once. He's got short blonde hair and is wicked fit. As far as Barry Allen goes, he'd be one of the few men capable of bringing in enough charisma to the block of wood to make him interesting.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(Escargon @ Jul 30 2013, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.


But he was excellent as The Music Meister.


See, I wouldn't mind him reprising that role for any time a production wants to have fun with musicals.

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QUOTE(Stungun @ Jul 30 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Arrow's a pretty decent show, so this could be good. Maybe this time it'll involve Wally West. After all, DC's been screwing him over since Flashpoi-
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We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash,

Dammit.


When I was growing up, watching Justice League: Unlimited, the Flash for me was Wally. Nowadays, they use the boring old guy, and I don't understand why.

It's basically the same thing with John Stewart and Hal Jordan, for me.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:12 PM

I vaguely rememebr the early 90's Flash seris, but I remember thinking it wasn't bad at the time. I'll give this a shot, looks like I need to catch up & watch some Arrow first.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

John Wesley Shipp (from the 90s series) was an awesome Barry Allen. I don't get where the hate comes from, since he demonstrated that it's certainly possible to make Barry an interesting character, without making him a freewheeling jokester like Wally.

I'm really excited about what this means for Arrow; so far they've been a pretty Nolanesque gritty non-powered world --which is why the Laurel Lance arc has been spinning its wheels. Between this and bringing in an actual (proto-)Black Canary, it's looking like they're getting ready to escalate into actual superpowers.

Laurel may get her Sonic Scream yet.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:25 PM

on NPH: He's WAAAAAY to pricey for CW

on Barry: I agree re him vs Wally, but Barry makes sense for a show that is part crime drama, what with him being a forensic scientist.

on super powers: There's been noticeable super science in the show, so powers is just a step further.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:53 PM

They might be doing Barry so they can potentially bring in Wally for Kid Flash later on. icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:59 PM

Yeah, Arrow is pretty clearly set very early in the DC timeline --like Batman Begins, it's about how the characters/world grow into what we're familiar with. It's only logical that they would start with the first modern Flash.

And they already have a pre-sidekick Roy Harper, so I can see Wally turning up later, then maybe segueing into a live-action Teen Titans spinoff.



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