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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#21 Ironbite

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.

I'll only watch this if they cast either Neil Patrick Harris or Jensen Ackles as Barry.


NPH is too pricey for the CW and Ackles is busy kissing angels on Supernatural.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:25 PM

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I vaguely rememebr the early 90's flash seris, but I remember thinking it wasn't bad at the time. I'll give this a shot, looks like I need to catch up & watch some Arrow first.

I'm rather surprised that it took this long for someone to mention the 90's series....

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

Despite being rasied on Wally I'm enjoying the current Manapul/Buccelato more than I have any other Flash run in the last twenty years so I'm fine with them using Barry. I think it's really hard to make speed look convincing in live action though, so I'm not confident that the special effects will be very charismatic. The odd brief burst of speed here and there in Smallville was okay, but I wouldn't want to see a whole show built around that model. I hope they do something interesting and watchable with it.


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 04:31 PM

Entertainment Weekly says that one of the kids from Glee is your new Barry Allen.

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Grant Gustin, whom you might recognize as Glee?s Sebastian, has officially been cast as Barry Allen (aka The Flash) in The CW?s hit show Arrow. Gustin will appear in episodes 208, 209, and 220.

Barry Allen is described as ?a Central City assistant police forensic investigator who arrives in Starling to look into a series of unexplained robberies that may have a connection to a tragedy in his past. A comic book fan boy, Barry is obsessed with the Arrow unaware that working with Oliver and Felicity to solve the crime has brought him right into the dangerous world of the vigilante,? according to a press release.


I've never seen Glee so I can't comment on the kid's acting chops, but there you go.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 04:52 PM

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Entertainment Weekly says that one of the kids from Glee is your new Barry Allen.

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Grant Gustin, whom you might recognize as Glee?s Sebastian, has officially been cast as Barry Allen (aka The Flash) in The CW?s hit show Arrow. Gustin will appear in episodes 208, 209, and 220.

Barry Allen is described as ?a Central City assistant police forensic investigator who arrives in Starling to look into a series of unexplained robberies that may have a connection to a tragedy in his past. A comic book fan boy, Barry is obsessed with the Arrow unaware that working with Oliver and Felicity to solve the crime has brought him right into the dangerous world of the vigilante,? according to a press release.


I've never seen Glee so I can't comment on the kid's acting chops, but there you go.

I'm not sure you'd be able to say much, Sebastian was a pretty minor character, anyway. He was in, what, three episodes, total?

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:32 PM

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I'm not sure you'd be able to say much, Sebastian was a pretty minor character, anyway. He was in, what, three episodes, total?
Not to mention as an antagonist jerk who seemed written as caricature rather than as a character.
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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE(Sabrblade @ Sep 16 2013, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Sep 16 2013, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure you'd be able to say much, Sebastian was a pretty minor character, anyway. He was in, what, three episodes, total?
Not to mention as an antagonist jerk who seemed written as caricature rather than as a character.

Well, the same could be said about Jane Lynch as Sue Sylvester, but I feel I've seen enough of her in Glee to have a certain perspective on her abilities as an actor.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:23 AM

So... just so I'm clear, do we hate this news yet?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

So they'll introduce Flash in Arrow then create a pilot with a different actor them bring that actor back to Arrow as a recurring but different character. Just like Smallville was with Aquaman. Sigh.

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Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.

I'll only watch this if they cast either Neil Patrick Harris or Jensen Ackles as Barry.


NPH is too pricey for the CW and Ackles is busy kissing angels on Supernatural.

LMAO! Castiel is probably human now so no kissing angels for anybody, aaaaw.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE(BeltlineYYC @ Sep 17 2013, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So... just so I'm clear, do we hate this news yet?
I'm indifferent towards it.
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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Sep 17 2013, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So they'll introduce Flash in Arrow then create a pilot with a different actor them bring that actor back to Arrow as a recurring but different character. Just like Smallville was with Aquaman. Sigh.

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QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 30 2013, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.

I'll only watch this if they cast either Neil Patrick Harris or Jensen Ackles as Barry.


NPH is too pricey for the CW and Ackles is busy kissing angels on Supernatural.

LMAO! Castiel is probably human now so no kissing angels for anybody, aaaaw.


At the time I posted that, btw, that hadn't happened yet.

Ironbite-nice job spoiling things....jackass.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:44 PM

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I'm not sure you'd be able to say much, Sebastian was a pretty minor character, anyway. He was in, what, three episodes, total?
Not to mention as an antagonist jerk who seemed written as caricature rather than as a character.

Okay, so he's got experience playing characters who're more complex than Barry Allen. Good to know he's overqualified.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Sep 17 2013, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sabrblade @ Sep 17 2013, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Sep 16 2013, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure you'd be able to say much, Sebastian was a pretty minor character, anyway. He was in, what, three episodes, total?
Not to mention as an antagonist jerk who seemed written as caricature rather than as a character.

Okay, so he's got experience playing characters who're more complex than Barry Allen. Good to know he's overqualified.


well really the only person not overqualified for Barry Allen is:


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:23 PM

I'll check it out. I like Arrow and don't care for the comic character. Same thing may happen with Flash.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE(Ironbite @ Sep 17 2013, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Sep 17 2013, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So they'll introduce Flash in Arrow then create a pilot with a different actor them bring that actor back to Arrow as a recurring but different character. Just like Smallville was with Aquaman. Sigh.

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QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 30 2013, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.

I'll only watch this if they cast either Neil Patrick Harris or Jensen Ackles as Barry.


NPH is too pricey for the CW and Ackles is busy kissing angels on Supernatural.

LMAO! Castiel is probably human now so no kissing angels for anybody, aaaaw.


At the time I posted that, btw, that hadn't happened yet.

Ironbite-nice job spoiling things....jackass.


I wrote 'probably'. The cliffhanger last season showed angels falling like comets but it wasn't shown for Castiel. I haven't seen the preview trailer either so its just speculation that he's human too (unless Metatron did something else for him). I HOPE he's still angelic. Being human and nuts would be awful for him.

Arrow's Flash can fight non super powered folks. The Rogues are paraphernalia based non metas (well, depending on which Weather Wizard)

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:18 PM

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The Rogues are paraphernalia based non metas (well, depending on which Weather Wizard)


Until Nu52 where they recently underwent genetic engineering to better stand a chance against supers.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Sep 17 2013, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Rogues are paraphernalia based non metas (well, depending on which Weather Wizard)


Until Nu52 where they recently underwent genetic engineering to better stand a chance against supers.

Wow, that's lame.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:46 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Sep 17 2013, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Database @ Sep 17 2013, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Sep 17 2013, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Rogues are paraphernalia based non metas (well, depending on which Weather Wizard)


Until Nu52 where they recently underwent genetic engineering to better stand a chance against supers.

Wow, that's lame.


Actually, most of them think so as well. It was Cold's idea and most of them have disliked him ever since.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:54 PM

Hmm, I'm curious about that. Maybe I'll look it up. I have no idea who the nu52 Rogues are so could be worth a look (is Kid Trickster Axel part of the team?). Weather Wizard internalized his powers before and Mirror Master has too abstract ish abilities to be limited by a gun but Cold, Heatwave and Boomerang all rely on hand held weapons. The latter three can just be street level bad guys.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Sep 18 2013, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, I'm curious about that. Maybe I'll look it up. I have no idea who the nu52 Rogues are so could be worth a look (is Kid Trickster Axel part of the team?). Weather Wizard internalized his powers before and Mirror Master has too abstract ish abilities to be limited by a gun but Cold, Heatwave and Boomerang all rely on hand held weapons. The latter three can just be street level bad guys.


Kid Trickster, Captain Cold, Glider (His Sister), Mirror Master, Heatwave, and Weather Wizard are the current Rogues lineup. Trickster is still mostly a gadgeteer, but has a cybernetic arm now (got it a few issues ago after a bad encounter with one of Grodd's apes), Cold can generate beams of ice, Glider is sorta of mental projection while her body is in a coma, Mirror Master is trapped in reflective surfaces which leads to his mirror realm that serves as the Rogue's hideout, Heatwave looks a bit like a Steampunk Cyborg. Weather Wizard is pretty much a male version of Storm. Boomerang was part of Suicide Squad, and was still weapon based with pretty much the same look. I don't know if new character Turbine has joined them or not, but was last seen with them. They're all still pretty much street-level criminals with the same rules and morals and occasional anti-hero leanings (They helped save people during the Gorilla warfare arc, and look to be opposing the Crime Syndicate during Forever Evil). So they've not really changed much beyond how they use their powers.

I rather like how its all handed, they've not quite gotten used to having powers rather then weapons/gadgets, as its 'recent' (not long before the start of series, I don't think they've had them for much longer then a year and half comic time) so its not like they are really overpowered or anything; as Flash alone has still been able to handle them. and since it all Cold's idea; it puts him at occasional odds with the rest of the team as not everyone if fond of the end results which I think is a nice reflection of general fan's mixed reactions.

Semi-related: Flash #19 is a pretty fun issue, in which Barry temporarily looses his powers to Dial H, and ends up using the Rogues old weapons to save people till his powers return near the end of the issue.

Also this week we got Flash 23.3 which is the Rogues one-shot.

EDIT: Fixed a mistake I made about one of the characters.

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