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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:51 PM

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CW president Mark Pedowitz used his platform Tuesday at the Television Critics Association's summer press tour to announce that his network is fast-tracking Flash, a drama based on the famed DC Comics hero and member of the Justice League of America.

The network will look to Arrow co-creators/executive producers Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg and director David Nutter to introduce the lightning-fast character during the second season of Arrow.

"We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash," Pedowitz told reporters. "We're planning an origin story and we'll see how it goes. We do want to expand on the DC Universe, and we felt this is a very organic way to get there."

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:59 PM

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:00 PM

CW? Pass.
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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

Well, Arrow's a pretty decent show, so this could be good. Maybe this time it'll involve Wally West. After all, DC's been screwing him over since Flashpoi-
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We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash,

Dammit.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:01 PM

AND PASS ON THIS!

Ironbite-though if this is WB's way of setting up it's universe.....good luck.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:18 PM

Starring Boring Allen?

No thank you.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:36 PM

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Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.

I'll only watch this if they cast either Neil Patrick Harris or Jensen Ackles as Barry.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 30 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Starring Boring Allen?

Well, yeah. But as usual lately, it'll be a Barry Allen that borrows every single personality trait from Wally West.


Oh, so the same personality transplant Hal Jordan got when "he got better" from his little "I'm going to blow up the sun" phase.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

NPH is a little too busy to do such a thing, and besides, if he did, the ensuing explosive internet fangasm would take months to clean up.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:15 PM

NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:31 PM

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NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.


But he was excellent as The Music Meister.

 

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE(Stungun @ Jul 30 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Arrow's a pretty decent show, so this could be good. Maybe this time it'll involve Wally West. After all, DC's been screwing him over since Flashpoi-
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We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash,

Dammit.


When I was growing up, watching Justice League: Unlimited, the Flash for me was Wally. Nowadays, they use the boring old guy, and I don't understand why.

It's basically the same thing with John Stewart and Hal Jordan, for me.

 

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:41 PM

Start it with a Dexter crossover.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 06:57 PM

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NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.

I disagree. He already voiced him once. He's got short blonde hair and is wicked fit. As far as Barry Allen goes, he'd be one of the few men capable of bringing in enough charisma to the block of wood to make him interesting.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 30 2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NPH would make a terrible Flash. Any Flash.


But he was excellent as The Music Meister.


See, I wouldn't mind him reprising that role for any time a production wants to have fun with musicals.

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QUOTE(Stungun @ Jul 30 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Arrow's a pretty decent show, so this could be good. Maybe this time it'll involve Wally West. After all, DC's been screwing him over since Flashpoi-
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We plan to introduce the recurring character of Barry Allen, who is the Flash,

Dammit.


When I was growing up, watching Justice League: Unlimited, the Flash for me was Wally. Nowadays, they use the boring old guy, and I don't understand why.

It's basically the same thing with John Stewart and Hal Jordan, for me.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:12 PM

I vaguely rememebr the early 90's Flash seris, but I remember thinking it wasn't bad at the time. I'll give this a shot, looks like I need to catch up & watch some Arrow first.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

John Wesley Shipp (from the 90s series) was an awesome Barry Allen. I don't get where the hate comes from, since he demonstrated that it's certainly possible to make Barry an interesting character, without making him a freewheeling jokester like Wally.

I'm really excited about what this means for Arrow; so far they've been a pretty Nolanesque gritty non-powered world --which is why the Laurel Lance arc has been spinning its wheels. Between this and bringing in an actual (proto-)Black Canary, it's looking like they're getting ready to escalate into actual superpowers.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:25 PM

on NPH: He's WAAAAAY to pricey for CW

on Barry: I agree re him vs Wally, but Barry makes sense for a show that is part crime drama, what with him being a forensic scientist.

on super powers: There's been noticeable super science in the show, so powers is just a step further.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:53 PM

They might be doing Barry so they can potentially bring in Wally for Kid Flash later on. icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:59 PM

Yeah, Arrow is pretty clearly set very early in the DC timeline --like Batman Begins, it's about how the characters/world grow into what we're familiar with. It's only logical that they would start with the first modern Flash.

And they already have a pre-sidekick Roy Harper, so I can see Wally turning up later, then maybe segueing into a live-action Teen Titans spinoff.



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