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@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 01:52 PM)

50/60's Twilight Zone, the 80's, millennium and recent ones also, all are in The Twilight Zone.

@  wonko the sane? : (28 October 2020 - 08:03 AM)

Twilight zone. Duh.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 October 2020 - 07:52 AM)

Um.... what did I log in on...

@  Paladin : (28 October 2020 - 06:17 AM)

have they actually gotten worse than the one where Homer gets paralyzed by a spider and has to learn to communicate through his farts?

@  unluckiness : (28 October 2020 - 05:53 AM)

It's only fitting that SImpsons have halloween specials since it's been a shambling corpse of its former self since its teens.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 04:12 AM)

No I caught one of the latest one with parodies of Stranger Things which admittedly is horror series but Heaven Can Wait and The Shape of Water are Fantasy films. Plus implications of the characters being sociopaths or twisted has become a norm these days.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 October 2020 - 02:58 AM)

Which probably adds to the "reasons they should just stop making more of The Simpsons" pile.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 October 2020 - 02:58 AM)

You make it sound like The Simpsons becoming less repetitive is a bad thing.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 02:48 AM)

Remember when Simpsons Halloween specials parodied horror movies and would have the characters make off out of character remarks like "we chucked donuts at a old man for kicks."? they don't and can't do that any more.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 October 2020 - 08:00 PM)

Tired of the same old Halloween stuff? Check out Tubi. The depths of the schlock available is astounding.

@  Donocropolis : (27 October 2020 - 11:51 AM)

Not sure if it's news or not, but I'm at Ross right now and they have Masterpiece Movie Ironhide for $24.99

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 October 2020 - 12:45 AM)

Final Fantasy 7 Remake’s Best Buy exclusive deluxe version is available for $10 as one of today’s daily deals

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 October 2020 - 08:50 PM)

We can play the "Is it a real headline or an Onion headline" game.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 October 2020 - 08:22 PM)

It's weird to see how much of Larry Hama's "satire" from the old GI Joe comic has no longer become satire in the past few years.

@  Maximus Ambus : (26 October 2020 - 11:29 AM)

Funny how 2020 gave me new appreciation for Dawn of the Dead 1978.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 07:43 PM)

@Fenix Twilight Sure. Just not a good one.

@  Fenix Twilight : (25 October 2020 - 04:02 PM)

@Sukoshiko Well his clothes left an impression on you didn't they?

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 October 2020 - 06:09 AM)

I just read "Tesla Cybertruck" like AC/DC's "Thunderstruck", now it won't get out of my head, so I inflict it on all of you as well.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Tesla Cybertruck: amazing or just silly looking? I can't decide.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:24 AM)

Weird question: I had to deal with a guy today... I'm not exactly up on modern fashions... or even archaic fashions... But this guy... Tuxedo Jacket and shirt, studs in all the button holes except the bottom one, blue jeans, and cowboy boots... Take a moment to imagine that get up. And this was to a business meeting, trying to impress someone. What look is that? Who on earth would dress that way? (I mean on purpose)

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:04 PM)

I think the few up here were lost to bad placement, poor weather, and the usual language trap.

@  TM2-Megatron : (24 October 2020 - 04:25 PM)

There are 5 spread around southwestern Ontario, all run by the same company. I've only been to the one in my area, but it seems to do good business even in non-pandemic times. On long weekends, when they do triple features, there's a normally a lineup to get in Friday and Saturday nights

@  Telly : (24 October 2020 - 01:51 PM)

there been one outside of my town for as long as ive been alive at least. its gone through its share of owners and periods of being closed down, but its been open for the past decade at least

@  Otaku : (24 October 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Bias from personal experience, but drive-in theaters are nearly extinct.  I grew up near one but it went out of business in the late 80s, and was torn down and replaced with some other business by the early 90s.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 07:47 AM)

Out here, I mean. Couldn't comment on their popularity in place where they actually exist.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:44 AM)

I wouldn't know. They've only come back into vogue with the social distancing from the plague, and while some places have made an effort to shoestring the places together, it's all largely too distant to be accessible.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:46 PM)

I'd hate to see ours replaced by condos. They're a great way to spend an evening, whether with family or on a date. And they've never been as common in Canada as the US, so we cna't afford to lose as many

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:45 PM)

Largely they were either poorly placed or bought out and torn down to be replaced by something other than over priced short term parking. Mostly condos.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:14 PM)

I guess your winters are worse, so they have a shorter operating season. Drive-ins in the Toronto area can usually operate until early or mid-December; maybe even into early January if there's no real snowfall, and open up again sometime in March.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:13 PM)

THere's really only 1 left in the entire province?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Ha! It's probably faster for me to drive to your drive in than to make my way to the only one left in quebec.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Fortunately we still have a drive-in theatre that's exempt from the closures about a 10 minute drive away

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Theatres around here are closed again for at least another couple weeks (wouldn't be surprised if it's extended by another month or so, either), but that's what they've been doing here as well. Playing the old classics

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 October 2020 - 02:36 PM)

I got Earthrise Megatron, he's better then I thought he'd be though Netflix Megatron is still tops.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:44 AM)

The original Rocky movie is also showing. May go next weekend. That’s how you get people back in the theatres - show the old classics every adult loves.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 10:35 AM)

They did a limited run showing of it up here too, back when the theaters were open... red zones suck.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:13 AM)

The original Back To The Future is showing in the Odeon in the UK now. I think I will go see it tomorrow.

@  Donocropolis : (23 October 2020 - 05:51 AM)

It was either the Bumblebee or Cliffjumper. Can't remember the colors.

@  Kalidor : (22 October 2020 - 06:43 PM)

What did it look like?

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 01:34 PM)

I swear I remember getting the Happymeal G1 minibot as a child, but I live 2.5 hours from St. Louis, which is the only place they apparently came out. It's possible that I got it on a family vacation, though, as we went to Six Flags pretty often.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 October 2020 - 01:07 PM)

Conversely, I had the Gobot helicopter from Wendy's and I was absolutely convinced it was an actual Transformer.

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 08:13 AM)

I used to rubber-band Hot-Wheels style construction vehicles together and pretend it was Devestator.

@  Bass X0 : (21 October 2020 - 05:26 PM)

When I was about four years old, my parents bought me Bugbite and tried to tell me it was Bumblebee. I was not yet a fan of Transformers, but I knew that wasn't Bumblebee. I didn't even have the real Bumblebee at that time.

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2020 - 01:39 PM)

It would come with two soundtracks: the eighties classic and one featuring dubstep and the VAs are popular Youtubers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 12:13 PM)

But yeah, reading it: I came off as a bit of an ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:52 AM)

I just couldn't think of worse music than disco...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 11:35 AM)

What were you trying to imply with the mocking sarcasm, though? Nobody suggested that '80s music was any more "of it's time" than '70s music.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:18 AM)

I said that disco wouldn't fare much better with the same context: media is property of it's time; biases, culture and limitations are all inherent in that. Some stuff can be brought forward because of an inherently timeless nature or the simplicity with which it was made but lots of media is a time capsule of the period of when it was made.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 08:46 AM)

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, or what you even think I said.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 08:11 AM)

Yeah, cause disco would make the transition so much better...


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:20 PM

I think part of the polarization is the fact Warner Bros. and DC haven't had...consistency...in the quality of their films. Green Lantern was pretty much a huge disappointment all the way around and I think the final consensus with The Dark Knight Rises was "Was this really necessary?". To be fair in the latter's case, there was no way anything they put out was going to top The Dark Knight, but even taking that into account it's ultimately a rather boring experience overall.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:26 PM

I've just never really liked a Zack Snyder film. *shrug* There are just some names I see attached to things that dash any hopes I might have otherwise held for a project, and he's one of them.

Orci & Kurtzman are also near the top of that list for me.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Jul 21 2013, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've not yet seen Man of Steel, but in regards to the new Star Trek...having grown up on VHS copies of TOS I can say the new movies are very much indeed in keeping with the character and property heart and soul.

I'll never understand why people want to go back to the days of Voyager and Enterprise, when the franchise really was a soulless abomination.

I haven't seen Into Darkness but my issue with the first Trek is that it was more spectacle-driven than character-driven. It felt like it had the heart and soul of a Star Wars movie rather than that of a Star Trek movie, or a good Star Trek movie at least. Sure the characters got a lot of the mannerisms of the old actors down (Karl Urban as McCoy especially) but nothing ever felt character-driven... it was more "character does this because we need him to do this to get to that next plot point".


A good 75% of TOS, TNG, and DS9 was spectacle driven. People seem to prop up the exemplary episodes of the show while forgetting those were interspersed with a whoooooooooole lot of nonsense. Flashy, colorful nonsense...but still nonsense.

Star Trek 2009 was the first time - the first time - since I was a child watching Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country that I felt like I was watching a Star Trek movie and not a mindless scifi Action Flick.

...I take that back. Since First Contact. Generations still felt like Star Trek...like part of the 75% of TNG that people forget about.

As for character driven moments in the new Trek film...I dunno. Both Kirk and Spock had some pretty good character arcs that carry over into the sequel. They're by no means the characters we knew back in TOS but they aren't supposed to be. They have different life experiences shaping their personalities. The reason McCoy feels like McCoy is probably because his character has had the least amount of "alteration" thanks to temporal shenanigans.

It's kind of like The Dark Knight vs The Dark Knight Rises. In The Dark Knight, Bruce contemplates going public in order to stop the Joker's rampage - going so far as to start walking forward during Dent's press conference before Dent stole the thunder. That's in keeping with the spirit of the character, that's something Batman would do.

Now compare that to The Dark Knight Rises ending...and that's not something Batman would do.

The Trek characters were all in keeping with the spirit of the characters. Uhura and Spock's love interest came out of left field, but as much as I hate to say this, it kept (and keeps) Uhura central to the cast. Michelle Nicolas (I'm butchering her last name, I know it) almost walked off of TOS because her character was so marginalized and a non-entity. It took a personal appeal from Martin Luther King Jr. to keep her on the show. It didn't improve her character any - Go on. Tell me what shining moments Uhura had in the show. I'll wait. If you said "Kiss William Shatner" you win a noprize. And in the movies? Yup. "Dance Naked in the Sand". Truly, pairing her with Spock destroyed the spirit of her character.


Trying to wind this thing back around to being on topic, I think that's what I'm most scared of for the Batman/Superman film. That it will be in keeping with the spirit of the characters - who have historically come to blows more then actually teamed up. Hence why I asked for World's Finest - The animated movie, not the comic book series that featured Superman framing Batman for Witchcraft in Puritan Salem so he could run off with the good looking blonde woman they rescued from being drowned as a witch.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not the comic book series that featured Superman framing Batman for Witchcraft in Puritan Salem so he could run off with the good looking blonde woman they rescued from being drowned as a witch.

Do you honestly believe that is a legitimate concern and not just extreme hyperbole on your part?

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2013, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not the comic book series that featured Superman framing Batman for Witchcraft in Puritan Salem so he could run off with the good looking blonde woman they rescued from being drowned as a witch.

Do you honestly believe that is a legitimate concern and not just extreme hyperbole on your part?


It was meant to be a humorous anecdote.

Though I suppose, I'd be shocked and kind of impressed if that's the story we got on screen. Since it also features Superman deliberately trolling Benjamin Franklin.

Edited by Rust, 21 July 2013 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

Nice. Maybe this movie will be a set-up to the long-awaited Justice League film that's been talked about.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

It came off a bit more serious than you intended then considering your prior acknowledge stance.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:01 PM

I've seen at least two or three people in this thread state they've never seen a particular movie, but then proceed to talk about why it wasn't very good or how it missed the mark (over the course of pages even).

Your uniformed opinion is completely moot unless you actually have an idea what you're talking about.



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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:03 PM

Epic whining in this thread.

I'm squeeing at this news because I was very much in favor of Bruce Wayne being introduced in the next Man of Steel if only to avoid retelling his origin story.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2013, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It came off a bit more serious than you intended then considering your prior acknowledge stance.


Yeah, I should have used a smilie.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

I guess I'm in the minority that when I want depth and story, I go to the comics-and when I want fun and spectacle (and am more forgiving about shallower story elements), I go to the movies.

In keeping with that mentality, I eagerly look forward to Bruce and Clark squaring off on the big screen. I just hope they put some in-universe time between this and MoS. Well-trained Bruce vs. green Clark really doesn't seem like a fair fight.
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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

I'm hugging pumped. I thought Man of Steel was amazing, and I have tons of faith in Zack Snyder to pull this off. Let's just hope they don't hug Batman up. Really hoping Lex is the villain too. Can't see it being anyone else.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:30 PM

My head-canon has already written a scene with Bruce and Lex debating "the Superman issue" over cigars and whiskey.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE(Local Trouble @ Jul 21 2013, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My head-canon has already written a scene with Bruce and Lex debating "the Superman issue" over cigars and whiskey.

Oh god please

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:36 PM

I'd like to second that GOD PLEASE.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:37 PM

I think they'll try and introduce another tent pole franchise or two, and try to build the Justice League from there. Wonder Woman is certainly the most logical candidate for her own film though. I honestly don't feel like Flash can carry his own film.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

I'd like to see a Wonder Woman origin movie that actually takes place in Hellenic Greece. Let us see her in her proper context before you throw her into Man's World.

QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jul 21 2013, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Local Trouble @ Jul 21 2013, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My head-canon has already written a scene with Bruce and Lex debating "the Superman issue" over cigars and whiskey.

Oh god please

I'd make it the opening scene. Let it set the tone of the entire movie.

Edited by Local Trouble, 21 July 2013 - 01:41 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:51 PM

I think I would have rather had a second dedicated Superman movie before jumping into the team-up, but this will be fine. If they're really determined to get to Justice League ASAP, then this might make a better bridge for that anyway. Who knows, maybe having the big team-up will even satisfy some of the WB execs into holding off on the full Justice League until after another couple solo movies, which I think could do it some good.

My only concern is the Frank Miller reference. I also want TDKR to be kept as far away from the DCCU as possible. There are a lot of stories out there that would make great reference material for a Superman/Batman movie. I'm not at all convinced that TDKR is one of them. I really hope that its influence doesn't extend much beyond providing a quote people would recognize.

I have no reservations regarding Snyder, Goyer, and MoS all feeding into the project. As someone who's been a huge Superman fan my whole life, and especially the last 25 years or so, I was absolutely thrilled with MoS. Yes, I could nitpick a couple things, and I'm not completely thrilled with one scene in the middle of the film. But if you take Superman as a whole over the past 75 years, rather than a snapshot of one particular incarnation, that movie absolutely got the heart and soul of the character right.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:17 PM

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Frank's not gonna make money from this movie.

Good lord, this thing is being judged before a single shot is filmed. Calm down, people.


Both Goyer and Snyder have pretty poor track records IMO. Snyder is very much style over substance, and Goyer's scripts either suck, or he's been the unluckiest writer ever and it's the directors, actors and editors fault every time something goes wrong.

Plus, you know, I seriously disliked the LAST collaberation they had that involved Superman.

I think that's more than enough to pass judgment.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:21 PM

Do we think he's gonna have Superman vs Batman though?
I'm sort of hoping they do a story where a threat is too big for Batman, and he reluctanly has to accept Superman's help and by the end they agree to collaborate which leads to Justice League.




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