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@  wonko the sane? : (28 February 2020 - 10:37 AM)

Console or PC?

@  Benbot : (28 February 2020 - 09:52 AM)

Is Skyrim worth playing in 2020?

@  Paladin : (28 February 2020 - 07:45 AM)

when you use the character as a header image for a frontpage story, i think you lose the right to complain about anyone else "spoiling things."

@  Nevermore : (28 February 2020 - 04:45 AM)

Did I say that? I must have been joking.

@  Sabrblade : (27 February 2020 - 11:46 PM)

And you say you have no sense of humor, Nevermore. ;)

@  Nevermore : (27 February 2020 - 09:07 PM)

Gonzo, start a thread in the main "Transformers Discussion" forum with that information in the title instead.

@  Sabrblade : (27 February 2020 - 08:33 PM)

Gonzo, please don't go spoiling things like that in the chat box.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 February 2020 - 05:53 PM)

Neat.

@  Darth Gonzo : (27 February 2020 - 05:53 PM)

Tarn is in Cyberverse.

@  Benbot : (27 February 2020 - 10:24 AM)

I really don't like that guy. Show the toys, not your face. I'm tired of looking at him.

@  RCX : (27 February 2020 - 09:25 AM)

Toy Galaxy is excellent.

@  Benbot : (27 February 2020 - 09:03 AM)

I think you'll be save in Greenland.

@  CORVUS : (27 February 2020 - 01:12 AM)

Toy Galaxy is my favorite overall toy-related channel on YouTube.

@  fourteenwings : (26 February 2020 - 11:29 PM)

Last year's coverage via Toy YouTubers was brilliant. However, since YouTube's new (unfortunately necessary) guidelines the companies barely invited any of them back, so all we get is super-popular collector's info.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 February 2020 - 09:19 PM)

If it weren't for Toy Galaxy's coverage video, I would not have known about the Defenders of the Earth figures. New toys of Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake the Magician? In 2020? I would have said you were smoking something strong.

@  Nevermore : (26 February 2020 - 06:32 PM)

So the question is... has Madagascar closed down all its ports yet?

@  Nevermore : (26 February 2020 - 06:31 PM)

A couple that got infected attended a Carnival event with over 300 people in attendance.

@  Nevermore : (26 February 2020 - 06:25 PM)

So the Corona virus keeps getting closer to where I live. Several confirmed cases in my federal state already.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 February 2020 - 02:20 PM)

Man, only having collector sites to get Toy Fair news from sucks. Did you know there is a 4" line of kids figures for the new Avengers game coming?

@  Dekafox : (26 February 2020 - 11:54 AM)

Since Omega already exists they could name it Auntie

@  Otaku : (26 February 2020 - 10:07 AM)

Oh, and one last Titan,provided we can fudge things a bit to include a character from Transformers: Animated; how about something at least resembling TF:A Omega Supreme?

@  Otaku : (26 February 2020 - 10:05 AM)

How about they find a way to make a mold they can use for both Broadside and Tidal Wave?

@  Maximus Ambus : (26 February 2020 - 02:13 AM)

Optimus Maximus, the mysterious titan of the Arisen, also Iaconus from Cyberverse.

@  TriBlurr : (25 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

I think the only other Titan class character that would interest me after Scoponok would be Tidal Wave

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2020 - 07:34 PM)

A Titan would have more room for other toys to hang out, assuming one has the table space for it.

@  Darth Gonzo : (24 February 2020 - 03:32 PM)

Play wise which would be better a Commander Class Aircraft Carrier Mode Broadside or a Titan Class Aircraft Carrier Mode Broadside?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 February 2020 - 01:53 PM)

I'd be interested in a deluxe or voyager Fort Max in Armada flashback red-and-green.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2020 - 10:49 AM)

I'd honestly be more interested in Commander-class Scorponok and Fort Max. I don't have the space for Titans.

@  Maximus Ambus : (24 February 2020 - 10:44 AM)

Make Commander class city bots to annoy collectors too

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2020 - 10:43 AM)

Make two Broadsides. One Voyager-sized that only turns into a jet, and one Titan-sized that only turns into an aircraft carrier. Piss off everyone on both sides of the scale.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

Since they seem to also go by the oh-so holy cartoon scale thing, he'd probably be a Commander Class figure.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 February 2020 - 10:34 AM)

Broadside is an aircraft carrier. He should probably be metroplex sized.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 February 2020 - 10:21 AM)

Broadside's more of a Commander Class.

@  Darth Gonzo : (24 February 2020 - 04:47 AM)

I think Broadside should be the next Titan Class figure.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2020 - 09:38 PM)

I tan nicely! But also have a family history of cancer... so... yeah, pasty for me it is.

@  Otaku : (23 February 2020 - 04:22 PM)

I really do begin to get sunburned after about 5 minutes of direct exposure, nowadays.  Side effect of already being pasty then going on a particular medication.  Yay?

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2020 - 01:36 PM)

It makes me burn. Accursed daystar.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 February 2020 - 01:33 PM)

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy....

@  Vexwing : (22 February 2020 - 03:26 AM)

I watched L.I.L.Y.Cat on there a while back, it was surprisingly good.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2020 - 08:47 PM)

@Dekafox, no DTP, but they DO have LILY Cat ;)

@  CORVUS : (21 February 2020 - 08:46 PM)

For me, it's "chocolate therapy".

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2020 - 08:32 PM)

Tonight dough owns my soul.

@  CORVUS : (21 February 2020 - 07:28 PM)

Stupid, delicious Ben & Jerry's.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2020 - 06:42 PM)

Ahh. I remember watching Bubblegum Crisis 2020 or whatever.

@  Dekafox : (21 February 2020 - 06:25 PM)

Next you'll say they have Dominion Tank Police and L.I.L.Y.Cat

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2020 - 06:06 PM)

Bubblegum Crisis, going by several shouts down.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2020 - 05:38 PM)

BGC?

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Enjoy the fudgy icing of this Hostess Cup Cake!

@  Telly : (21 February 2020 - 02:31 PM)

harlock is on tubi as well. not dubbed though :(

@  Rhinox42 : (21 February 2020 - 01:19 PM)

Blugh, the english dub of BGC is atrocious.


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#21 Quantumhawk

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:32 PM

Man of Steel was just like Star Trek Into Darkness. Didn't get everything from the source material right, pissed off some of the fanboys, but it was a darn sight more enjoyable that most or all of the previous attempts to tell a story with these characters on the big screen. At the end of the day if your movie is a slave to your source material but ends up boring as heck, what good did it do anyone to get the details right?

Edited by Quantumhawk, 20 July 2013 - 10:32 PM.


#22 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE(Quantumhawk @ Jul 20 2013, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man of Steel was just like Star Trek Into Darkness. Didn't get everything from the source material right, pissed off some of the fanboys, but it was a darn sight more enjoyable that most or all of the previous attempts to tell a story with these characters on the big screen. At the end of the day if your movie is a slave to your source material but ends up boring as heck, what good did it do anyone to get the details right?


What good is it to make a sparkly, shiny, pretty action adventure if you lose the entire heart and soul that made everyone love the source material in the first place?

ZacWilliam, you can capture the soul of a property people love without being boring and you can be fun and exciting without being hollow and untrue to the source. Look at Avengers for a film that did it right.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:37 PM

Warning for language and some Man of Steel SPOILERS



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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:44 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 20 2013, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ZacWilliam, you can capture the soul of a property people love without being boring and you can be fun and exciting without being hollow and untrue to the source. Look at Avengers for a film that did it right.


I'm sorry, but I don't think it's appropriate to compare Man of Steel or Into Darkness to Avengers. Avengers was the culmination of five movies - the sixth of the franchise. Stand alones like Man of Steel or even sequels like Into Darkness don't have that legacy behind it. If you want to be fair to the franchises, the appropriate comparisons would be Avengers vs Superman Returns or Star Trek VI.

And while Superman Returns is left bleeding at the bottom of some Kryptonite spawned mineshaft, I'd say Star Trek VI is about equal with Avengers in terms of entertainment value.

In my opinion.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but I don't think it's appropriate to compare Man of Steel or Into Darkness to Avengers. Avengers was the culmination of five movies - the sixth of the franchise. Stand alones like Man of Steel or even sequels like Into Darkness don't have that legacy behind it. If you want to be fair to the franchises, the appropriate comparisons would be Avengers vs Superman Returns or Star Trek VI.


Well, the appropriate comparison for his point would probably be MOS/Star Trek vs Iron Man.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Jul 20 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the appropriate comparison for his point would probably be MOS/Star Trek vs Iron Man.


Of which I'd say all three rank fairly evenly between each other.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Jul 20 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the appropriate comparison for his point would probably be MOS/Star Trek vs Iron Man.


Of which I'd say all three rank fairly evenly between each other.


Not in relation to trueness to the heart and soul of their source material. Which is what we were specifically talking about.

Iron Man IS the embodiment of that character and property heart and soul.

Even folks who like Darkness and MoS can't really honestly say that.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:12 PM

Neither the last Superman or Batman movies were any good, so I'm not really that excited.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:13 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 21 2013, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Jul 20 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the appropriate comparison for his point would probably be MOS/Star Trek vs Iron Man.


Of which I'd say all three rank fairly evenly between each other.


Not in relation to trueness to the heart and soul of their source material. Which is what we were specifically talking about.

Iron Man IS the embodiment of that character and property heart and soul.

Even folks who like Darkness and MoS can't really honestly say that.


-ZacWilliam, that's the issue at hand.


Who the hug cares about source material.

Who the hug cares if they don't capture what people think is the heart and soul of the character.

The original Swerve, for example, was some boring guy who studied chemical compostion and was a terrible driver. The new one is a annoying, but lovable bartender who's a terrible shot. Does that mean the original is better?

Things gotta evolve, man.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 21 2013, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not in relation to trueness to the heart and soul of their source material. Which is what we were specifically talking about.

Iron Man IS the embodiment of that character and property heart and soul.

Even folks who like Darkness and MoS can't really honestly say that.


-ZacWilliam, that's the issue at hand.

And what's depressing is that I've seen people applaud Man of Steel for "not being a goddamn kiddie movie like what Marvel's been doing". Eeeeeeeegads.

QUOTE(Spectre @ Jul 21 2013, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Neither the last Superman or Batman movies were any good, so I'm not really that excited.

Sadly, I'm in agreement.

QUOTE(Escargon @ Jul 21 2013, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who the hug cares about source material.

Who the hug cares if they don't capture what people think is the heart and soul of the character.

The original Swerve, for example, was some boring guy who studied chemical compostion and was a terrible driver. The new one is a annoying, but lovable bartender who's a terrible shot. Does that mean the original is better?

Things gotta evolve, man.

There's a difference between "staying true to the heart and soul of a character", "deviating from the heart and soul of the character" and "actually giving heart and soul to the character", the latter of which is what happened to Swerve. The dude never got used before. He had a tiny filecard and otherwise he did spit-all. Not to mention that he was just a toy that was meant to be sold to kids.

Evolving does not mean "leaving everything behind", it doesn't mean "dispose of the heart and soul". Or would you say Batman ruthlessly killing criminals in Batman Returns was the right "evolution" for the character?

Edited by Detour, 20 July 2013 - 11:23 PM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 20 2013, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Jul 20 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the appropriate comparison for his point would probably be MOS/Star Trek vs Iron Man.


Of which I'd say all three rank fairly evenly between each other.


Not in relation to trueness to the heart and soul of their source material. Which is what we were specifically talking about.

Iron Man IS the embodiment of that character and property heart and soul.

Even folks who like Darkness and MoS can't really honestly say that.


-ZacWilliam, that's the issue at hand.


I've not yet seen Man of Steel, but in regards to the new Star Trek...having grown up on VHS copies of TOS I can say the new movies are very much indeed in keeping with the character and property heart and soul.

I'll never understand why people want to go back to the days of Voyager and Enterprise, when the franchise really was a soulless abomination.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:19 AM

Nerds are hugging jaded...

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No.

God...No.

Not Miller. Use anyone but Miller. Not the inane Batman/Superman Rivalry that turns Superman into a naive boyscout working for the wrong side because he won't come down to the level of the common man.

I was worrying about the same things when I read the announcement. Fortunately as Cheets said, its more of a starting-point as opposed to an adaptation.

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't suffer a big screen adaptation of "Batman is the best at everything, Superman is a loser".

Amen.
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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 21 2013, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 20 2013, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Jul 20 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the appropriate comparison for his point would probably be MOS/Star Trek vs Iron Man.


Of which I'd say all three rank fairly evenly between each other.


Not in relation to trueness to the heart and soul of their source material. Which is what we were specifically talking about.

Iron Man IS the embodiment of that character and property heart and soul.

Even folks who like Darkness and MoS can't really honestly say that.


-ZacWilliam, that's the issue at hand.


I feel I can say this about Man of Steel perfectly fine, thank you.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've not yet seen Man of Steel, but in regards to the new Star Trek...having grown up on VHS copies of TOS I can say the new movies are very much indeed in keeping with the character and property heart and soul.

I'll never understand why people want to go back to the days of Voyager and Enterprise, when the franchise really was a soulless abomination.

I haven't seen Into Darkness but my issue with the first Trek is that it was more spectacle-driven than character-driven. It felt like it had the heart and soul of a Star Wars movie rather than that of a Star Trek movie, or a good Star Trek movie at least. Sure the characters got a lot of the mannerisms of the old actors down (Karl Urban as McCoy especially) but nothing ever felt character-driven... it was more "character does this because we need him to do this to get to that next plot point".

This is actually why I'm interested in seeing Abrams tackle Star Wars. He's already sorta doing it in my eyes. icon-arcee.gif

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2013, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nerds are hugging jaded...

Well what did you expect a jaded movie like Man Of Steel to leave us feeling???

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:57 AM

How soon people forget the modern Batman is the result of Miller's writing. I'm not saying to praise the man and all his works but try not to jump to conclusions when they say they want to lift a bit from what he did.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE(CORVUS @ Jul 21 2013, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was worrying about the same things when I read the announcement. Fortunately as Cheets said, its more of a starting-point as opposed to an adaptation.


The problem as I see it (Which is just paranoia at this stage) is even using Miller's work as a starting point, you open the door to have Miller's biases taint the adaptation, regardless of its ending point.

Give me World's Finest, not The Dark Knight Returns.

Edited by Rust, 21 July 2013 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:03 PM

Ugh. I don't feel like debating this. These comic movie threads have been so damn negative lately and I just want to bask in the excitement of such potential awesome instead of dwelling in the pits of sadness and despair... over a comic book movie.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:03 PM

Wholeheartedly agreed Rust.

And Cheets, you know that these things are polarizing. They are always polarizing.

Edited by CORVUS, 21 July 2013 - 12:04 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:09 PM

I'm sorry, but... I hate it when people say "you can't say..." or "you have to admit..." about something so nebulous as the so-called "spirit" of something.

What the heck is that, anyway? "Spirit" and "magic" sound more like words people throw around to keep their preferences as something ethereal and unquantifiable so they don't have to actually justify or debate it for real.

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