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@  Kalidor : (21 June 2021 - 04:50 PM)

Not just any girl - your mom!

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 June 2021 - 08:19 AM)

Happy Knocked-Up-A-Girl Day!

@  Bass X0 : (20 June 2021 - 02:13 AM)

Happy father's day!

@  Hot Rod Mustang : (19 June 2021 - 07:45 PM)

what up sluts?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 June 2021 - 07:20 PM)

Only 6? Filthy casual.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2021 - 04:26 PM)

Multiplaying as in "playing with other people" or multiplaying as in "6 WoW accounts running at the same time"?

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 June 2021 - 01:45 PM)

Oh no! Darkeklaw is multiplaying! (See birthday box)

@  tigerhawk : (19 June 2021 - 11:54 AM)

In my Marvel comic canon the second wave of special teams were handpicked active robots whose experience would theoretically make more stable combiners, the Combaticons came from Cybertron, the Protectobots were imprinted from crystals explaining both Onslauhghts ancestry and First Aid's experience.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 05:24 PM)

Spotlight: Lioconvoy?

@  Bass X0 : (18 June 2021 - 04:15 PM)

How long until IDW puts out an Optimus Pride Month comic?

@  Cyoti : (18 June 2021 - 03:32 PM)

Even with B5, it didn't follow its original 5-year plan. Summaries from the supplementary materials for the scriptbooks demonstrates that was originally planned was very different from the actual product. Sinclair's actor's departure seemingly changed the show to the point that the stuff with the Vorlons/Shadows, the Minbari and the ending were all changed. Mapping out a show years in advance is difficult because of changing bts stuff like writers/actors leaving the show or suddenly having to retool because of ratings/execs. No plan survives intact especially in a chaotic environment of television production.

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2021 - 11:27 AM)

To be like Babylon 5, you need to cram a 2 season story arc into one because you fear being cancelled, then get further seasons you have no more material for. You also need a spinoff which the network heads don't want and do everything in their power to kill it while it's on air.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 June 2021 - 10:33 AM)

The required effort is probably why we don't have babylon 6; TNG.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 10:23 AM)

Everyone wants to be like Babylon 5 but no one wants to put in the effort

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:36 AM)

And then, after five years of hosting their own official podcast where they would answer fan questions and always encouraged their audience to pay attention to the mysteries, after the show had ended, they claimed the show was never really about the mysteries, it was all about the characters.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:34 AM)

What really bugs me with "Lost" is that the producers had willfully negotiated a set end date with the network halfway through season 3 (the show ended with season 6, as planned) specifically so they could plan out the plot for the remainder of the show. Then... the plot wasn't resolved properly.

@  tigerhawk : (18 June 2021 - 04:17 AM)

By then I had lost interest in arc TV shows, I followed a few and got the impression they were just making them up as they went along. Seemed to be a trend starting with new Galactica and Lost though in actuality began with The X Files and has become a trope called 'The Chris Carter Effect'.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:12 AM)

I think it was season 3 part 1 specifically, since they had two separate plot "arcs" for season 3.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:11 AM)

They threw everything in there, with no clear story structure, no clear stakes, and characters flip-flopping wherever the episode's writer needed them to go for their half-baked plot.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:10 AM)

Season 3 was the worst, with a terrible meandering random events plot.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 11:59 PM)

'save the cheerleader' then in season 3 he tears her skull open, scans her power and she simply heals. They didn't think any of it through.

@  Shockwave 75 : (17 June 2021 - 07:04 PM)

Well, you know Hollywood; if something's popular, run it into the ground!

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

It never truly recovered from that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Season 1 was good until the finale.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2021 - 09:37 AM)

because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 06:33 AM)

The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 June 2021 - 12:54 AM)

That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

@  Maruten : (16 June 2021 - 07:13 PM)

Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 June 2021 - 05:38 PM)

I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

@  tigerhawk : (16 June 2021 - 12:41 PM)

Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 June 2021 - 11:19 AM)

I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 04:33 AM)

You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 June 2021 - 04:31 PM)

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

@  CORVUS : (15 June 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Kewl. Thanks!

@  Kalidor : (15 June 2021 - 02:08 PM)

Hey everybody! I wanted to announce that Sarahthecutevixen is our newest addition to the Allspark staff. She's primarily looking over discord stuff, but I wanted to make sure she got a welcome over here as well.

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Turn-Bass RPG

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Do not X0 quietly into the night.

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All your Bass are--

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*Bass X0 not available in Alaska or Hawaii.

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Get your own Big Mouth BassX0 for the low price of $19.95 (plusshippingandhandling)

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Mr. Speaker, we are for the Bass X0.

@  Nevermore : (13 June 2021 - 06:04 AM)

It's all about that Bass XD.

@  tigerhawk : (13 June 2021 - 02:16 AM)

Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.

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Now that you have seen this Bass XO, you must send it to five other Bass XOs or BassXO will come to you in a week and then you too will be BassXO.

@  Telly : (13 June 2021 - 12:08 AM)

or feed him after midnight


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#1 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:10 PM

It makes everyone uncomfortable but that's all the more reason to sit down and have a conversation about race in this country. A real conversation, not just pointing and blaming. From where I sit I see two distinct sides that need to talk to each other. And not everyone is in those two camps as there are a great many that get it and can talk about it and those people are pretty damn great. However I don't want to address the awesome people right now.

On one side we have white people. They are angry because they didn't cause the racial rifts in this country. They didn't own slaves or enact Jim Crow Laws. But those people don't understand that they still benefit from a country built on all of those. A country where the society came up around those abominations and shaped the way things are today. They may not be the cause but they are living in the problem and they are the solution. Just take the time to realize that most people aren't simply pointing and blaming. Most black folk just want others to understand what this country is like for them. The white experience and the black experience are vastly different and one is entirely unfair from start to finish. I won't elaborate on details but it would be helpful for these uninformed white people to just sit and talk and read and understand. And care. Don't feel pity or any patronizing thing like that, just understand and care. Then you become the solution.

Black people, on the other side, need to do a bit of the same. In that those that are angry need to see that a great deal of white people simply don't realize what we go through on a daily basis. Through no fault of their own either. Yes there are the racist jack asses but there are so many that aren't and just don't know. We have to welcome them and talk with them and walk with them. We have to understand their frustration at what seems like a lot of finger pointing and blaming. White guilt shouldn't be a thing unless they are personally responsible for something. However they should be aware of the effect their heritage has had on others. Not responsible... but aware. Awareness can bring about change.

These are my thoughts and mine alone. These are the thoughts I'm working out in my head and I don't suffer any delusions of being 100% right. If my mind can be changed on subjects I welcome it. I do not pretend to speak for anyone else. I do not bring up other races because I don't have the experience to do so though I welcome and encourage others to bring those experiences to me.

This has been posted in P&R to keep out the riff-raff.

Have a good weekend, friends.

#2 CORVUS

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

Well-said, Cheets.
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Posted 20 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

Well said. I know I've had opportunities in life that probably were in some part due to my pigmentation. And yet the machinations of big business broke me (literally as far as my back goes) just the same. So I'm beyond ready to shake hands with everyone else that hasn't had the best luck in life and turn the tables on our collective oppressors. Specifically the 1% and Corporate America. Because to them all poor people look the same. As in it's difficult to determine the race of those you've never judged to be worth more than the splatter on your boot heel.

Which is why I'll probably spend the rest of my life working phones trying to beg stupid white people to stop voting against their own economic best interests because white men wearing ties scared the jive out of them. icon-screamer.gif

So, basically, anyone that tries to tell you there isn't a race problem in this country needs to be nervously laughed at while you back away slowly and alert the closest psyche ward. If they aren't sane enough to realize that there is such a thing as collective shame that a million years of history couldn't wash away then they need help.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE(Wheelimus @ Jul 20 2013, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I'm beyond ready to shake hands with everyone else that hasn't had the best luck in life and turn the tables on our collective oppressors. Specifically the 1% and Corporate America. Because to them all poor people look the same.

They actually think we're people?

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#5 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:59 AM

After two days and so many views I can safely say the first four words of this thread are entirely correct. icon-arcee.gif

Edited by Cheetimus Primal, 21 July 2013 - 11:59 AM.


#6 CORVUS

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:05 PM

Indeed.
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#7 Kalidor

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:29 PM

Oh, I just didn't reply because in your statement you said this wasn't addressed to awesome white people like me.

#8 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Jul 21 2013, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, I just didn't reply because in your statement you said this wasn't addressed to awesome white people like me.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:39 PM

I haven't replied because I can't really think of anything to say. My regional demographics put me pretty much in the center of a loaf of white bread.

#10 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:41 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't replied because I can't really think of anything to say. My regional demographics put me pretty much in the center of a loaf of white bread.

Then why not ask questions? This is the type of conversation where even seemingly stupid questions are ok because it's meant for everyone to learn or begin learning.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2013, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then why not ask questions? This is the type of conversation where even seemingly stupid questions are ok because it's meant for everyone to learn or begin learning.


Fair enough, I suppose.

I guess the biggest question I have is why there is a "knowledge gap" when it comes to education. Education is the key driving force to bettering one's situation and standing, even disregarding the current system being stacked against anyone without a Trust Fund. But it feels like there's not a lot of attempt being made. Again, that's from a outsider's perspective. What difficulties are faced on that front?

Edited by Rust, 21 July 2013 - 12:47 PM.


#12 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2013, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then why not ask questions? This is the type of conversation where even seemingly stupid questions are ok because it's meant for everyone to learn or begin learning.


Fair enough, I suppose.

I guess the biggest question I have is why there is a "knowledge gap" when it comes to education. Education is the key driving force to bettering one's situation and standing, even disregarding the current system being stacked against anyone without a Trust Fund. But it feels like there's not a lot of attempt being made. Again, that's from a outsider's perspective. What difficulties are faced on that front?

What "Knowledge gap" are you talking about... before I make assumptions about what you are saying.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:01 PM

Nevermind. I actually managed to answer my own question by going to Google.

My concern was with dropout rates among minorities, but that was a concern based off out of date data. Having a spreadsheet of Dropout rates from 1990 to 2010, there's a very visible decline across the board for everyone. The data I'm looking at.

Though this does make a point, I think. Part of the problem people like myself have is we're so insulated that we make assumptions based on obsolete data without bothering to check the conclusions.

Edited by Rust, 21 July 2013 - 01:02 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

The majority of students I went to college with were black, the majority of graduates I walked with were white. That is not a commentary or a stance, but a practical observation of my experience.



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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Jul 21 2013, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The majority of students I went to college with were black, the majority of graduates I walked with were white. That is not a commentary or a stance, but a practical observation of my experience.

Which makes you racist. icon-fire.gif



#16 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Jul 21 2013, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nevermind. I actually managed to answer my own question by going to Google.

My concern was with dropout rates among minorities, but that was a concern based off out of date data. Having a spreadsheet of Dropout rates from 1990 to 2010, there's a very visible decline across the board for everyone. The data I'm looking at.

Though this does make a point, I think. Part of the problem people like myself have is we're so insulated that we make assumptions based on obsolete data without bothering to check the conclusions.

Which is part of what I was getting at and why I would love a more open dialogue for those that may not "get" something. Through no fault of your own you have been insulated from certain segments of society and have also been able to benefit from a privilege you have been entirely unaware of existing. Or, if you don't like the term "privilege" you can view it as a disadvantage you did not have.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 02:14 PM

Not that it's an excuse to ignore systemic issues either way, but is crab mentality a significant problem?

#18 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE(awa64 @ Jul 21 2013, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not that it's an excuse to ignore systemic issues either way, but is crab mentality a significant problem?

No more so than in any other population I would suspect. Some people are naturally bitter and angry but for the most part when someone makes it everyone is happy for them. In fact many will live vicariously through the accomplishments of the few.

When a black man makes it big it's something to throw in the face of a society that fights back against black men doing just that.

TL;DR - No.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:10 PM

Have you ever encountered much blatant racism yourself, Cheets?

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:14 PM

Blatant and not so blatant. I'm on my way to dinner but I'll elaborate later.


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