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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#21 (Deactivated) Sobana

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 05:34 PM

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How did Twilight's confession go? How did she manage to do it without getting herself hauled away in a straitjacket? Did everyone just shrug and say "Frankly, it's been obvious"?

Well, Pinkie had a hunch and guessed it pretty accurately but the rest where skeptical until Spike confirmed it by talking, there was a brief movement of shock and disbelief, then they were willing to help. The odd thing was Twilight was in a dressing room speaking at normal volume to Spike about how she was going to reveal the truth to her friends about being a magical pony princess when her friends were no more then a few feet away with nothing separating them other then one of those curtains covering the doorway of the dressing room. I was just thinking to myself the whole time "how can they not hear her saying that?"

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 06:10 PM

Perhaps I missed it but when they mention "the other girl who went against Sunset Shimmer" I was expecting ......don't know what I was expecting. But it sounded like a set-up for a reveal which never came unless, again, i missed it. Maybe Rarity?
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE(Sobana @ Jun 22 2013, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fnu Aw @ Jun 22 2013, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did Twilight's confession go? How did she manage to do it without getting herself hauled away in a straitjacket? Did everyone just shrug and say "Frankly, it's been obvious"?

Well, Pinkie had a hunch and guessed it pretty accurately but the rest where skeptical until Spike confirmed it by talking, there was a brief movement of shock and disbelief, then they were willing to help. The odd thing was Twilight was in a dressing room speaking at normal volume to Spike about how she was going to reveal the truth to her friends about being a magical pony princess when her friends were no more then a few feet away with nothing separating them other then one of those curtains covering the doorway of the dressing room. I was just thinking to myself the whole time "how can they not hear her saying that?"

It figures that Pinkie would be the one to figure it out.

If revealing the truth wasn't out of the question and Spike was able to confirm it, why didn't Twilight just immediately do that as soon as she knew where the crown was? She might have only had to tell one person.

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Sobana @ Jun 22 2013, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fnu Aw @ Jun 22 2013, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did Twilight's confession go? How did she manage to do it without getting herself hauled away in a straitjacket? Did everyone just shrug and say "Frankly, it's been obvious"?

Well, Pinkie had a hunch and guessed it pretty accurately but the rest where skeptical until Spike confirmed it by talking, there was a brief movement of shock and disbelief, then they were willing to help. The odd thing was Twilight was in a dressing room speaking at normal volume to Spike about how she was going to reveal the truth to her friends about being a magical pony princess when her friends were no more then a few feet away with nothing separating them other then one of those curtains covering the doorway of the dressing room. I was just thinking to myself the whole time "how can they not hear her saying that?"

It figures that Pinkie would be the one to figure it out.

If revealing the truth wasn't out of the question and Spike was able to confirm it, why didn't Twilight just immediately do that as soon as she knew where the crown was? She might have only had to tell one person.

Something about upsetting the balance and the whole "who would believe" thing and not wanting humans to cross over in curiosity.

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QUOTE(Agent X @ Jun 22 2013, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps I missed it but when they mention "the other girl who went against Sunset Shimmer" I was expecting ......don't know what I was expecting. But it sounded like a set-up for a reveal which never came unless, again, i missed it. Maybe Rarity?

It was Rarity. Some of the stuff related to that was trimmed out early on, but there are still a couple lines in the movie that imply it.

I assumed it was Rarity was well.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Sobana @ Jun 22 2013, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fnu Aw @ Jun 22 2013, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did Twilight's confession go? How did she manage to do it without getting herself hauled away in a straitjacket? Did everyone just shrug and say "Frankly, it's been obvious"?

Well, Pinkie had a hunch and guessed it pretty accurately but the rest where skeptical until Spike confirmed it by talking, there was a brief movement of shock and disbelief, then they were willing to help. The odd thing was Twilight was in a dressing room speaking at normal volume to Spike about how she was going to reveal the truth to her friends about being a magical pony princess when her friends were no more then a few feet away with nothing separating them other then one of those curtains covering the doorway of the dressing room. I was just thinking to myself the whole time "how can they not hear her saying that?"

It figures that Pinkie would be the one to figure it out.

If revealing the truth wasn't out of the question and Spike was able to confirm it, why didn't Twilight just immediately do that as soon as she knew where the crown was? She might have only had to tell one person.

Something about upsetting the balance and the whole "who would believe" thing and not wanting humans to cross over in curiosity.

I totally get why they wouldn't want open interaction between the two worlds. It would plunge the human world into complete chaos. But if Twilight could just tell one person, someone who had access to the crown and could get it without a fuss, one person who could be convinced of the need to stay quiet, wouldn't that be less risky than the alternative? Twilight had no in-universe guarantee of winning the crown, and the risk of failure was huge. On top of that, she had a villain actively trying to thwart her.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:50 PM

The movie had been all wait worth.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:59 PM

It was a good fun movie. A good amount of known alternates from Equestria while still having a lot of new looking people, a fun storyline, and good lines throughout. I'm glad Spike went along as it gave Twilight a confidant and someone to make quips.

Trixie was fun, and I like how they got a little CMC time in there. I was smiling most of the movie.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:08 PM

It looks like this movie is bringing back members from the dead! =D Two of my best friends have returned! This movie is awesome! >.<

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:11 PM

Well, that certainly was a thing.

I'm not sure what I thought. Parts of it were great and I loved it. The references to hands always got a chuckle, and the transformer sound almost made me fall out of the chair. The interaction, characters and pacing were good.

It did bring in some baggage that I hated from the series. Mostly Candace, the crystal empire, the EoH. Seriously, the Mane 6 ARE the EoH. The jewelry is just the focus point. If anything, this was proven in the new world where the Mane 6, without their necklaces, still harnessed the magic of friendship. The EoH are beings, not objects. So to have them 'not be able to use the elements'... Some of it just didn't sit right with me.

The whole superhero/Sailor Moon transformation sequence, and ESPECIALLY the redemption of Sunset, I just said "wat." It was annoying. Oh, and apparently int he new world super powers turn you into Gargoyles. Good to know. Sunset Shimmer was a good, believable villain with a descent plan. Her redemption was terrible though. I do wonder if some more Trixie stuff was cut? It looked like that was going somewhere.

I loved Twilight. She was just great. I loved the fact that Spike went with her. Those two had the best scenes. We need more of just the two of them in the show. That's a relationship that has always worked but is woefully under explored. I was glad to see it take center stage here. I ADORED the animation! It was absolutely top notch as good as it gets.

This may give us a better age about the CMC. Highschool normally runs 9th-12 grade, and stretches ages 14-19. So the CMC could easily be 5 years younger. And pony years may muddle that a bit. Just a thought.

I didn't like Celestia, and especially Luna. I got the feeling Celestia may have actually been Celestia at the end. But she was just way to stoic. Lesson Zero is my favorite Celestia. And Luna was just mean. Again. And her animation model was really think. it was odd.

Like I said, I laughed at every single hand joke. it was great.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:37 PM

I'm sorry, but I did not like this. It's every bit mediocre that I expected it to be. First TCE now this, one more strike Meghan and you're out.

I mean, it's every bit the cliche high school setting plus a rehash of the first two episodes right down to the defeated villain crying for forgiveness. It doesn't help that Sunset Shimmer is on par for King Sombra for bottom tier villain with her generic "I'm a bitch with no real motivations or personality" shtick. Yeah, we're told she has motives but you remove that and nothing would change about her.

The designs are not terrible, except for Fluttershy's, Fluttershy should not wear eyeshadow, ever. But it seems the animators are better doing ponies than humans since the movie has shots like this. The Doug-esque multicolored people setting is really distracting from this being "the real world". I'm even tempted on recoloring the entire film, I already have ideas on what to color Dash, Pinkie, & Fluttershy.

And then there were the songs, which were all the same cheap pop wanna be schlock . I admit the musical number in the lunchroom was good, but everything else felt halfhearted and Daniel clearly phoned it all in.

The "Twilight doing pony thing" jokes got old & the constant nods to the memes were annoying and only serve to validate the pandering complaint.

Shame, for two years I wanted a FiM movie and when one comes out it has 5/7 of the main cast sidelined so flanderized doppelgangers can take their place for a majority of the film.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 02:20 PM

Well, to be fair this is clearly for little girls. Does that mean they should pander? No. Especially with a series that was built on not pandering. But its also forgivable, mainly because it's forgettable. There were some good moments, but over all it continued the downward spiral into season 4. Will I buy it? Maybe. I'm more likely to buy it than I would be to drive 2 hours and pay $12 to see it. :/

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:39 PM

Hasbro has ruined things before, Hasbro will ruin things again. Because it's Hasbro, and they have a long history of ruining things.

They should send the show to the folks in charge of the Wakfu show. That was a group that could do a tie in series well.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:02 PM

A number of people whose opinions I trust say they enjoyed the show greatly. Of course, a couple also said they didn't really like it.

Two people can be given the same information and form entirely different conclusions on what they see. They can both be correct as well.

I, however, after spending so much time on other forums being the Thirsty Optimist, have found a fair deal of entertainment in being the grouchy pessimist.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:01 PM

I really did enjoy most of this. I think that the animation was completely superb, the music was good, and most of the time I didn't see the writing as a way to sell toys. That extra 20% where the writing wore thin is where my problems arise, and like I said, I will most likely get it on DVD (if I get the seasons). I'd give it a very strong 3 1/2 horseshoes out of five.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:22 PM

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It's every bit mediocre that I expected it to be.

That was what I was worried about. I always look at things more cheerful then most, so I liked it more then most. If it didn't have the same animation, characters, setting up and just ran with the story, it would feel generic, but it would still feel good for a TV movie. Have you seen most made for TV movies? This one has way higher quality.

I think they might of been a limited movie release to get a feel on how it would do on a wider scale. Like if they should bring it up to the level of their other movies.

Also, was it mediocre because you went in expecting it to be so? =p

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Hasbro has ruined things before, Hasbro will ruin things again. Because it's Hasbro, and they have a long history of ruining things.

They should send the show to the folks in charge of the Wakfu show. That was a group that could do a tie in series well.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:09 AM

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Thanks for the vote of confidence.... icon-waspy.gif



I should clarify what I mean. It's not that I don't have confidence in the animators and writers to make a good show, as you all have long since proven that everyone works to the best of their abilities.

It's that over the past several years, I have seen IP owner after IP owner go out of their way to ruin their works no matter what the people actually want, all in pursuit of the bottom line, because very few of them have CEO's and whatnot that actually look at what they make as more than merely a means to make money.

Hasbro just happens to be a notable offender, being a toy company first and foremost.



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:23 AM

Sobana - thanks for the spoiler review. Hmm, I will give it a watch. But yeah, it seems most of the humour factor rests on the audience knowing the characters - as ponies - already. Who else would even spot references like human versions of Trixie or Granny Smith? Again, I am reminded of that episode of TF Animated - seeing the main Autobot cast as humans was fun for an episode, but it'd have worn thin if this stayed for longer.

Leaving Sunset there just... "raises too many questions". Seriously, Celestia and the whole Royal Guard are on the other side... just drag her to the portal and problem solved.

What is the name of Twilight's "boyfriend"? - I wonder if he will appear in Season 4...

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writing quality to the show? Is it ever explained why there are rainbow-colored humans in said alternate world? Is a human-Celestia the ruler of the world there?

Writing is show-quality, easily. Better; this is the likeable Pinkie Pie.

The multicoloured humans (and their weird names) aren't really explained, though there is room to speculate that this isn't the human world so much as a pocket-universe that Sunset Shimmer created/influenced. It would explain a whole host of odd coincidences (like why almost everyone Twilight knows is in the same high school).

Principal Celestia "rules" a high school; we don't really see much outside of that.


From a whole country to a high school? Wow, she has been demoted...
Makes me wonder who the president of that country is. And who is her/his equivalent in Equestria...

So, this world is not even real, just created by Magic? Maybe it's because of the Element of Harmony that is actually Magic... and it has been linked to Twilight, so it created people whom Twilight knows? Does not explain the human-shape though.

QUOTE(Don_East @ Jun 24 2013, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but I did not like this. It's every bit mediocre that I expected it to be. First TCE now this, one more strike Meghan and you're out.


TCE? What's that?

And I agree with you, the multicolored humans is just... an odd thing. It disturbs me even more than the Monster High-like terrible proportions (seriously in real life such a being would have her neck and spine broken under the weight of her GIANT SKULL). It reminds me of Doug (brrrr... I have been trying hard to forget it) and it especially jarring because apart from this, the human world is well, just like OUR human world. I feel the colors were left for two reasons - similarity to Monster High where characters are quite similar in design, just having different skin colors, and also as a way to make the references to the original pony characters obvious to the audience.

I am glad that the ears/tails/wings/horns on the promo designs were left out, though.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 25 June 2013 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:15 AM

You forget that it has also been said that part of the reason they left them multicolored is to avoid the inevitable whining that would show up if they had to give them human racial skin colors.

Because the dumber people would do so.


Besides, I've watched Star Trek and Futurama. I can take some multi colored people.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:20 AM

Umm, in the USA of all place? Y'know, the melting pot of races and cultures, where every TV show has a default of at least one of every major/minor ethnicity?

I would see no problem with that. And if you remember all the "MLP as humans" drawing, a lot of people have already drawn say, Twilight as Asian or Rainbow Dash as African(-American).

In fact, in my above-cited TF Animated episode, when the Autobots wake up as humans, Bumblebee for example was African-American. And despite frequenting two TF message boards back at the time, I saw no-one have any problems with that, despite BB being one of the most iconic TF characters.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:36 AM

Precisely, because it's the US.

People here are rather stupid about things like that.