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@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.


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#1701 Internet Jesus

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 09:10 PM

So of course they have a GoFundMe now. Those people are scum.

NEW SHIT HAS COME TO LIGHT. Apparently they've been stiffing people who have commissioned them for years, and a lot of their backers from previous Kickstarters haven't gotten their books yet.

 

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:09 PM

Ray Dillon seems to have been a very vocal opponent of every Wonder Woman project except their own, so I'm not at all surprised that DC decided the book could go. 


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 03:49 AM

They were only asking for $2,000. If it was some inane amount like $50,000 or something I might agree.

 

Losing your job around the Holidays is an awful thing and if you can find enough people to give you enough money to last you through the Holidays then more power to you.

 

The problem is that these 2 have been finding enough people to give them enough money to last them through the holidays for the last decade's worth of holidays! And oh yeah, not doing what they're supposed to be doing to EARN that money in the first place.These 2, particularly Dillon, are NOTORIOUS amongst the original art community, as scammers on the long-term scale. We're talking a DECADE plus of scams. Sure, it's only $40 here, $400 there, but add it all up, and they've been coasting on free money for years and years now. It has to stop. Instead, it's being fueled. AGAIN.

 

EDIT: Internet Jesus' link covered it all quite well. It's an open secret, and has been for many years, so that's why their cries for sympathy were met by many deaf ears. Ears that wanted to be paid or given art they're owed. Only thing IJ got wrong is calling it 'new shit'. Ain't nothing new about it. Nothing new at all.


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#1704 Maruten

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 04:43 AM

Yeah, gosh, these dudes have been ripping people off for years. Maybe they don't mean to be horrible scam artists, but they seem to be slack about Not Being That. So. Many unhappy supporters who have been waiting years and years for books they paid for, and which are already available on multiple platforms elsewhere, so why have these people not had their junk fulfilled?

With the information we have now, it's turned into The Stupid Thing DC Did Was Hiring Them In The First Place.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 01:58 PM

 

They were only asking for $2,000. If it was some inane amount like $50,000 or something I might agree.

 

Losing your job around the Holidays is an awful thing and if you can find enough people to give you enough money to last you through the Holidays then more power to you.

 

The problem is that these 2 have been finding enough people to give them enough money to last them through the holidays for the last decade's worth of holidays! And oh yeah, not doing what they're supposed to be doing to EARN that money in the first place.These 2, particularly Dillon, are NOTORIOUS amongst the original art community, as scammers on the long-term scale. We're talking a DECADE plus of scams. Sure, it's only $40 here, $400 there, but add it all up, and they've been coasting on free money for years and years now. It has to stop. Instead, it's being fueled. AGAIN.

 

EDIT: Internet Jesus' link covered it all quite well. It's an open secret, and has been for many years, so that's why their cries for sympathy were met by many deaf ears. Ears that wanted to be paid or given art they're owed. Only thing IJ got wrong is calling it 'new shit'. Ain't nothing new about it. Nothing new at all.

 

 

I was ignorant of those facts but now that I'm aware of them I agree with your original assessment.


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:47 AM

http://www.theouthou...dropped-it.html

 

They're declaring a reset after DC's announcement that they'll be making a "diversity" push similar to what Marvel tried and failed at. 


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:30 AM


That's a bad reset.

-ZacWilliam, comics need to grow a more diverse audience to survive. Marvel learning the wrong lesson recently doesn't change that.
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:39 AM

I think the point is that they seem to be doing the same thing Marvel did, i.e. a bad-faith "diversity as sales gimmick" with the same set of white male creators.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 06:48 AM


That I agree with. Any push for inclusion should 100% include creative teams as diverse as said characters.

-ZacWilliam, it being a sales gimmick is not in itself a bad thing. Everything comics does is a sales gimmick, it's a business, and that's fine. But yeah, be authentic in your message/actions/authorial voices.
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:19 AM

Still, kinda lost in the noise of "Has Marvel Done Something Stupid Today?"

 

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 07:23 PM

That I agree with. Any push for inclusion should 100% include creative teams as diverse as said characters.

-ZacWilliam, it being a sales gimmick is not in itself a bad thing. Everything comics does is a sales gimmick, it's a business, and that's fine. But yeah, be authentic in your message/actions/authorial voices.

Thing is, that would require them to finally can Eddie Berganza so that there can be female creators at all levels of the company. 


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