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@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on


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#1701 Internet Jesus

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 09:10 PM

So of course they have a GoFundMe now. Those people are scum.

NEW SHIT HAS COME TO LIGHT. Apparently they've been stiffing people who have commissioned them for years, and a lot of their backers from previous Kickstarters haven't gotten their books yet.

 

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Oh boy. This'll probably get worse before it gets better.

 

Practically, yeah, they're pretty scummy.


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#1702 Maruten

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:09 PM

Ray Dillon seems to have been a very vocal opponent of every Wonder Woman project except their own, so I'm not at all surprised that DC decided the book could go. 


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 03:49 AM

They were only asking for $2,000. If it was some inane amount like $50,000 or something I might agree.

 

Losing your job around the Holidays is an awful thing and if you can find enough people to give you enough money to last you through the Holidays then more power to you.

 

The problem is that these 2 have been finding enough people to give them enough money to last them through the holidays for the last decade's worth of holidays! And oh yeah, not doing what they're supposed to be doing to EARN that money in the first place.These 2, particularly Dillon, are NOTORIOUS amongst the original art community, as scammers on the long-term scale. We're talking a DECADE plus of scams. Sure, it's only $40 here, $400 there, but add it all up, and they've been coasting on free money for years and years now. It has to stop. Instead, it's being fueled. AGAIN.

 

EDIT: Internet Jesus' link covered it all quite well. It's an open secret, and has been for many years, so that's why their cries for sympathy were met by many deaf ears. Ears that wanted to be paid or given art they're owed. Only thing IJ got wrong is calling it 'new shit'. Ain't nothing new about it. Nothing new at all.


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#1704 Maruten

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 04:43 AM

Yeah, gosh, these dudes have been ripping people off for years. Maybe they don't mean to be horrible scam artists, but they seem to be slack about Not Being That. So. Many unhappy supporters who have been waiting years and years for books they paid for, and which are already available on multiple platforms elsewhere, so why have these people not had their junk fulfilled?

With the information we have now, it's turned into The Stupid Thing DC Did Was Hiring Them In The First Place.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 01:58 PM

 

They were only asking for $2,000. If it was some inane amount like $50,000 or something I might agree.

 

Losing your job around the Holidays is an awful thing and if you can find enough people to give you enough money to last you through the Holidays then more power to you.

 

The problem is that these 2 have been finding enough people to give them enough money to last them through the holidays for the last decade's worth of holidays! And oh yeah, not doing what they're supposed to be doing to EARN that money in the first place.These 2, particularly Dillon, are NOTORIOUS amongst the original art community, as scammers on the long-term scale. We're talking a DECADE plus of scams. Sure, it's only $40 here, $400 there, but add it all up, and they've been coasting on free money for years and years now. It has to stop. Instead, it's being fueled. AGAIN.

 

EDIT: Internet Jesus' link covered it all quite well. It's an open secret, and has been for many years, so that's why their cries for sympathy were met by many deaf ears. Ears that wanted to be paid or given art they're owed. Only thing IJ got wrong is calling it 'new shit'. Ain't nothing new about it. Nothing new at all.

 

 

I was ignorant of those facts but now that I'm aware of them I agree with your original assessment.


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:47 AM

http://www.theouthou...dropped-it.html

 

They're declaring a reset after DC's announcement that they'll be making a "diversity" push similar to what Marvel tried and failed at. 


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:30 AM


That's a bad reset.

-ZacWilliam, comics need to grow a more diverse audience to survive. Marvel learning the wrong lesson recently doesn't change that.
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:39 AM

I think the point is that they seem to be doing the same thing Marvel did, i.e. a bad-faith "diversity as sales gimmick" with the same set of white male creators.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 06:48 AM


That I agree with. Any push for inclusion should 100% include creative teams as diverse as said characters.

-ZacWilliam, it being a sales gimmick is not in itself a bad thing. Everything comics does is a sales gimmick, it's a business, and that's fine. But yeah, be authentic in your message/actions/authorial voices.
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:19 AM

Still, kinda lost in the noise of "Has Marvel Done Something Stupid Today?"

 

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 07:23 PM

That I agree with. Any push for inclusion should 100% include creative teams as diverse as said characters.

-ZacWilliam, it being a sales gimmick is not in itself a bad thing. Everything comics does is a sales gimmick, it's a business, and that's fine. But yeah, be authentic in your message/actions/authorial voices.

Thing is, that would require them to finally can Eddie Berganza so that there can be female creators at all levels of the company. 


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