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@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?


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#41 Rust

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:36 PM

I'll reserve judgement until we get more information on them.

Scarlet Witch would be a much better character if her powers were given any kind of definition. Instead of being able to fire blasts of energy and the like, if she is a mutant with power over "probability"...just make her incredibly lucky. She can influence card games, dice rolls, heck even "hex" someone by mentioning the likelihood of something happening to them. "I want you dead!" translates into a Heart Attack anywhere from a minute to 75 years down the line. "Slip and Fall Down" on a recently wet surface being infinitely more likely to happen.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ May 1 2013, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll reserve judgement until we get more information on them.

Scarlet Witch would be a much better character if her powers were given any kind of definition. Instead of being able to fire blasts of energy and the like, if she is a mutant with power over "probability"...just make her incredibly lucky. She can influence card games, dice rolls, heck even "hex" someone by mentioning the likelihood of something happening to them. "I want you dead!" translates into a Heart Attack anywhere from a minute to 75 years down the line. "Slip and Fall Down" on a recently wet surface being infinitely more likely to happen.


They're doing a Dr. Strange movie, right? Seems the perfect place to start to define her powers as being Magic, or indistinguishable from it.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:57 PM

Once again I wonder why they don't go with Ms. Marvel. I'm not even a huge fan of the character; I just think she'd be pretty easy to add to the cast.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ May 1 2013, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well... jive...

http://www.comicbook...e/news/?a=78662

I HATE the Scarlet Witch! I hate her. I hate the way her powers are so ill defined that they are pretty much whatever the current writer defines them as. I hate her for marrying a robot. I hate her for having psychic kids with a robot. I hate her for being the marvel U's Deus Ex Machina to EVERYTHING. I hate her for hugging her brother in the Ultimate Universe. I hate Loeb for spelling that out in his jivey run on the book when it was previously only eluded to and easily ignored.


Tony Stark once died, got replaced by a teenage version of himself, and then was brought back to life and merged with this teenage version.

Tony Stark was also once taken over by Ultron, who shapeshifted Tony's body into a naked, metal version of the Wasp.

They tend to tone down the really ridiculous stuff when they port things over to the movies. I imagine they'll give her a more defined powerset and they'll definitely not bring over the incest stuff from the Ultimate universe.

QUOTE(Suspsy @ May 1 2013, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once again I wonder why they don't go with Ms. Marvel. I'm not even a huge fan of the character; I just think she'd be pretty easy to add to the cast.


In theory, depending on how true they want to make Ms. Marvel's backstory in line with the comics, it requires an explanation of the alien race of the Kree and of Captain Marvel.

Scarlet Witch, especially if she's just a regular Witch now since she can't be a mutant, just IS.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE(Undead Scottsman @ May 1 2013, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Suspsy @ May 1 2013, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once again I wonder why they don't go with Ms. Marvel. I'm not even a huge fan of the character; I just think she'd be pretty easy to add to the cast.


In theory, depending on how true they want to make Ms. Marvel's backstory in line with the comics, it requires an explanation of the alien race of the Kree and of Captain Marvel.

Scarlet Witch, especially if she's just a regular Witch now since she can't be a mutant, just IS.


Yeah, Miss Marvel is an Avengers 3 type character; since round two and three are getting more Space based with GOTG and a apparently Planet Hulk movie planned.

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#46 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE(Undead Scottsman @ May 1 2013, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tony Stark once died, got replaced by a teenage version of himself, and then was brought back to life and merged with this teenage version.

Tony Stark was also once taken over by Ultron, who shapeshifted Tony's body into a naked, metal version of the Wasp.

They tend to tone down the really ridiculous stuff when they port things over to the movies. I imagine they'll give her a more defined powerset and they'll definitely not bring over the incest stuff from the Ultimate universe.

I fully expect her to be a hell of a lot more normal in the film and nothing like the mess in the comics. I'm not stupid enough to think all that crap will be translated to the screen as is. Seriously, that's just dumb. I just effing hate the character for everything she is and I feel no need to see her in a film series I love.

If I end up liking her it'll be because they make her into something entirely different... kinda like why I liked Ryan Reynold's Hal Jordan.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:22 AM

X-Men Evolution Wanda was really good.
Woooo!

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:37 AM

I like Wanda fine for who she was when I got into comics in the late 80s. I'm not super thrilled with everything Bendis did to/with her in the modern era.

If I boiled down her essence to its basics at her beginning for the film I get: Odd quiet/sheltered shy girl "overprotected" by both her father and twin brother her whole life but with a strength inside she hasn't had to discover yet. She has the ability to cause highly improbable and unpredictable events to occur; either miraculously good or catastrophically evil. Other than some innate control over whether the hexes are good or bad the power is totally out of her control and shows hints of being terrifyingly powerful.


-ZacWilliam, also it bears repeating that The Vision was NEVER a robot. He was an artificial being, a synthoid whose body systems were designed to exactly duplicate organic systems and who was a fully emotional, sentient human being, basically with the mind and feelings (but not memories) of Simon Williams. It's not like she married a toaster. The predjudice the two got was fairly well handeled in the comics at the time iirc.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:15 PM

I don't get the Vision hate in this thread:
Wasn't everyone giddy that he might be the "return" of Agent Coulson at one point? Plus, coming from the animation side of things, I have to say a GREAT setup for a future film would be to have Tony create Vision and/or Ultron as part of his "retirement" to help fight guys like Thanos (akin to how things developed in the Avengers cartoon.

Which sets up Ultron as a potential villain in Avengers 3.

#50 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

I've only seen one person hating on the Vision...

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 2 2013, 02:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not like she married a toaster.


It's a shame John Byrne thought differently. It took ages for the Vision to recover from what Byrne did to him, and it could be argued there's still some damage left over from that awfulness.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 10:28 PM

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It's not like she married a toaster.


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That's it. I demand Scarlet Witch be played by Grace Park and The Vision played by Tahmoh Penikett. I will accept no substitutes.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 2 2013, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not like she married a toaster.


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That's it. I demand Scarlet Witch be played by Grace Park and The Vision played by Tahmoh Penikett. I will accept no substitutes.

Vision is already Clark Gregg and I will brook no argument on that.

But Grace Park as Wanda? I can actually see that.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 10:38 PM

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Vision is already Clark Gregg and I will brook no argument on that.


Hrm...if he were any other man, I would reject him where he stood. As is? Very well. The point is conceded.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE(Fangwing @ May 2 2013, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ May 2 2013, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 2 2013, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not like she married a toaster.


...

That's it. I demand Scarlet Witch be played by Grace Park and The Vision played by Tahmoh Penikett. I will accept no substitutes.

Vision is already Clark Gregg and I will brook no argument on that.

But Grace Park as Wanda? I can actually see that.


Err.. you have heard the news, right?
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Coulson is the starring character. As in Agent Coulson.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE(Undead Scottsman @ May 2 2013, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fangwing @ May 2 2013, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ May 2 2013, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 2 2013, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not like she married a toaster.


...

That's it. I demand Scarlet Witch be played by Grace Park and The Vision played by Tahmoh Penikett. I will accept no substitutes.

Vision is already Clark Gregg and I will brook no argument on that.

But Grace Park as Wanda? I can actually see that.


Err.. you have heard the news, right?
HIGHLIGHT to view:
About the SHIELD tv show?HIGHLIGHT to view:
Coulson is the starring character. As in Agent Coulson.


HIGHLIGHT to view:
I am aware of this. And there's nothing saying Coulson won't be the Vision, especially considering Gregg's tweeted several Vision-themed teases over the past few months.

#57 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:25 PM

Looks like trouble ahead...

http://www.deadline....tiations-fight/

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:48 PM

I'm sorry. I'm sure this is a source of major contention for the actors and studios (Being paid in regards to their worth so other studios don't short change them in the future), but I can't help but think that even with the "pittance" payout of $200,000...I could pay off every single one of my debts and still have a huge chunk of that money leftover.

#Richpeoplesproblems


As for Avengers 2...Avengers in general was lightning in a bottle. I still remember remarking to friends after seeing the first one: "There's no way the sequel is going to be half this good."

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 06:15 PM

IIRC, all of those actors aside from Downey are under multi-picture deals. Hemsworth and Evans have 6 picture deals, Ruffalo has a 5 picture deal, Sam Jackson is in the middle of his 9 picture deal.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:23 AM

Wow, they've been really planning ahead with the movieverse.