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@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2019 - 04:42 PM)

For a time, I considered sparing your wretched little bank account....

@  Bass X0 : (23 July 2019 - 03:50 PM)

No... I accept your cookies! I... ACCEPT.. THEM...

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 July 2019 - 02:48 PM)

I don't think that's the case in Canada. Bank account debits from outside parties need to be pre-authorized at your branch or via online banking.

@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 10:04 AM)

That does sound like fun.

@  Dekafox : (23 July 2019 - 09:35 AM)

Fun note: in the US(at least), by default if someone has your routing number and account number off a check, they can pull as much money out as they want with nothing you can do about it until after the fact.

@  Paladin : (23 July 2019 - 07:23 AM)

anything burns if it gets hot enough.

@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 07:12 AM)

That's why you should keep your under-the-bed money in gold and silver--that won't burn!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 July 2019 - 05:34 AM)

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-people-have-always-complained-about-young-adults

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 July 2019 - 02:24 AM)

Disparaging the youth has been a pastime for thousands of years. Pretty much every society we have writing from has some version of "kids these days" at some point.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 July 2019 - 02:21 AM)

Numfar! dance of pain.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 July 2019 - 01:49 AM)

If the USA vanished from Earth prior to millennials (later to be joined by Generation Z) coming of age, would the global community have the same magnitude of disparaging upon youths as a pastime because old boomers are insecure about their inability to handle new technology?

@  Ashley : (23 July 2019 - 12:02 AM)

This wasn't that, this was a "we don't trust banks!" thing

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 11:57 PM)

Well I know when I first got my back pay for disability, some of the paperwork said I couldn't have so much in the bank after 30 days...so I had to take out a huge chunk of cash.

@  Ashley : (22 July 2019 - 11:53 PM)

I know a family who lost thousands of dollars in a house fire because they were literally keeping it under the bed. Don't underestimate the USA's luddism.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 10:39 PM)

The US is filled with people LITERALLY proud of their ignorance of tech. Don't expect the US to be a major power in the next 30 years.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 10:25 PM)

Most people in Australia that I've heard of use electronic transactions for rent (and similar things). I mean, doubtless there are some people who use cash for various reasons of varying levels of ethics, but most require electronic transfers.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:22 PM)

But I don't understand Paladin's premise of "allowing the landlord access to one's bank account". I'm pretty sure I have acquaintances who pay monthly by check or automated bank transfer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:15 PM)

I know many lower-end restaurants in the USA take cash only as a probable method of tax evasion. Perhaps that is why some landlords do as well. Alternatively, such people demand cash upfront because they have thin profit margins or whatever and are too afraid of spending the time and effort to pursue someone whose check or electronic payment bounced.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:14 PM)

@Nevermore The USA is a place where lots of people can proliferate at being technologically behind. e.g. almost no one accepts or pays by contactless yet despite the inherent security of the process. And by having a population of over 300 million we can generate large quantities of believers in the Luddite fallacy and such.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:59 PM)

I pay by credit card whenever possible for the rewards/points, but utilities don't usually allow that so those I just pay through the online bill payment feature rather than mess around with pre-authorizations

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:57 PM)

Most monthly or whatever payments are done electronically around here, I think. Mine certainly are. Whether by pre-authorized debit, an e-transfer (transfer from one bank account to another), or your bank's online bill payment system/database

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:04 PM)

If I overpaid, it may take several months for them to pay me back the difference. If I underpaid, they're very quick with demanding the difference.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:03 PM)

Meanwhile, I can write a tax report, but since the employer already deduced the standard legal taxes from my monthly payment, the tax report is also mostly just to let the tax authority determine if I underpaid or overpaid.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:02 PM)

Based on my average costs for the year, they will then calculate the estimated monthly costs for the upcoming year.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:01 PM)

At the end of the year, the power company will send me an annual invoice which shows if I overpaid or underpaid. If I overpaid, the difference may just be deduced from my December bill.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

I also pay my monthly gas and electricity bills that way.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

It's funny. Here in Germany, many people still pay cash in stores, restaurants etc. (the staff usually asks "cash or wireless?"), but many regular payments are handled wirelessly and automatically.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Around the same time, I get sent a slip from payroll that lists my gross income, all the deductions and the net income, i.e. the final transaction sum.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:56 PM)

My monthly payment from my employer is wirelessly transferred to my bank account. Taxes, health insurance, unemployment insurance and social security fees are calculated by the payroll department, handled by the employer, and I just get paid the rest after taxes and everything.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

yes. you're assuming US employers would pay fairly & take fairly.

@  Telly : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

we dont get paid on a monthly basis, if thats what you mean. i myself get paid every 2 weeks. some are every week. and if im telling you something you already know, just ignore me...

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:54 PM)

Which I assume doesn't work that way in the US either?

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:53 PM)

That way you may time the transaction with your monthly payment from your employer.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:52 PM)

You don't need to give the landlord access to anything. You go to your bank, show the clerk your bank account card, give them the landlord's bank details, tell them the exact amount of the rent and which day of the month the transaction should happen, sign the order, and you're done.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:49 PM)

most Americans wouldn't trust a landlord with access to their bank account.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:47 PM)

Do people in other countries really still pay their landlords in cash? Here in Germany, it's very common to have the payment as an automated bank transaction on a set day of the month, so if the payment is late, it's either the bank's fault, or there's not enough money on the bank account.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

meanwhile some of us are trying to calculate if they'll have a spare forty bucks at the end of the week for some food...

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 07:20 AM)

At least I can see where the 600 US bucks is going in this case. The MP line looks more ridiculous by the day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 July 2019 - 07:09 AM)

It's ridiculous. I'll stick to Armadacron

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 06:13 AM)

If anything, shipping is going to make the actual toy's price look affordable.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 02:28 AM)

Its like, $550 ish in US money (so probably about $800 for my Australian self) and is taller than TR Fort Max. He's gonna be a hefty boy.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 July 2019 - 10:05 PM)

Damn, that Unicron looks big. Not gonna be cheap

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2019 - 09:09 PM)

"By the way, your landlord called. Something about being late with the rent."

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2019 - 04:09 PM)

"Hi there, I'm Unicron. Your husband ordered me."

@  unluckiness : (21 July 2019 - 09:04 AM)

"Perhaps I misjudged you. Proceed on your way to the couch."

@  Donocropolis : (21 July 2019 - 07:33 AM)

I'm just afraid of what my wife would do to me if it showed up at our door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2019 - 01:23 AM)

Giant Robot Satan has that effect on people.

@  Ashley : (21 July 2019 - 12:31 AM)

So, I might not be able to get Hasbro Pulse Unicron because my mother is afraid of it

@  Pennpenn : (20 July 2019 - 09:58 PM)

But that's neither here nor there.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Six of one, half-dozen of the other.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Edit: Ok, just trying to leave the thread open to non spoilers AND Spoilery conversation, but if a tag in the title and none in the post is prefered, I'm cool.


Wanted to talk about this and didn't see a thread.

Found it interesting that JW apparently hinted at Iron Man 3 that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch we're in his A2 script.

Hope that's true.


-ZacWilliam, There's not another Brother-Sister act in Avengers lore it could be right? They'd be a great starting point to get Vision in there, which I really want.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:37 PM

While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

Also if you're going to start a thread with spoiler tags just mention spoilers in the title and carry on like normal in the thread.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:48 PM

I don't like either Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver. I don't even know how you could make her power work on screen, it's just so poorly defined. It seems hokey.

I also don't know how they'd explain them. Can they reference Fox's franchise? It seems like it may be a bit much to have to explain their origins, especially if you had to alter the mutant origin. And fanboys would be pissed at the lack of Magneto connection.

A science explanation for QS might be hard to do without veering into Flash territory.

I can't think of who else it'd be though. Vision and Jocasta are the only others that spring to mind, and that seems more doubtful and more tenuous.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2013, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.


Well, most of the classic drama and interest surrounding the Vision is rather involved with his romance with the Scarlet Witch. You lose a lot of the cool of having him there if you don't have her and her brother to play him off IMO.

So having them there is a good set up for introducing him and running with some of his classic themes IMO. Given the coming of the Antman film and how high Ultron is on the list of major Avengers villains I'm not worried about Marvel having that side of his origin covered, but this gives a foundation for what I'd like to see done with him.


-ZacWilliam, I love the Vision but without the Scarlet Witch romance angle you lose too much of his classic arc IMO.

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#7 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Not necessarily. All they legally have to do is not specifically mention "mutants" or "Magneto". In the world established they hardly have to use the term Mutant to have their superpowers make sense and saying they or their Father were know terrorists covers that part of thier origin fine.

As long as the pair are close siblings, Pietro is an arrogant super fast egoist who tries to protect his sister, and Wanda is a formerly sheltered slightly strange young woman with the ability to make things go catastrophically wrong, you've got all of them that matters characterwise.


ZacWilliam, can't think of any other siblings he could mean either...
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

You could just mention they were born with their powers and be done with it.

If Joss is using them he probably answered all the questions we're thinking of.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Most of that can be covered by simple vague information. Just say they were born with their powers, and make a comment of them being the son of Villain.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Apr 25 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


I'd say the plot point is the others wondering if they could trust them. "Apple doesn't fall far from the tree" type thing. worst Case scenario claim that he is dead, and make it sound vague to leave room enough for if Marvel ever gets the rule rights back, to introduce him.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

And then it turns out to be the Strucker twins.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(Rhinox @ Apr 25 2013, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.


Which one? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.

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QUOTE(Nightwing @ Apr 25 2013, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.


True, with a 2015 release date, Avengers 2 would beat DC/WB to the punch with a silver-screen speedster.

Either way, I would be happy to see those two in the next film, mention of Magneto/Mutants or not. They need to show us (the audience) that the world of the MCU is rapidly growing to include heroes (and villains) from all over the world, and of all walks of life.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


I don't see how he is, but for him to be completely accurate we probably need Wonder Man on the team first.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


You're lame and rediculous. ;p Vision rocks.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Vision that is one iota less realistic then every other character in the Avengers films.


-ZacWilliam, sure his visuals will stand a more realistic tweaking but everyone else has gotten that too.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

Vision and Wonder Man being added to the first's cast would be brilliant. For me.

*Sorry for weird grammar, sleeping pill is starting to kick in.

OR: could it be Vision and Wasp? There's the speculation/almost certainty/maybe of Wasp being in it.

If Vision is created, he may see Wasp as his sister. She was something else, but became something new after Pym stepped in. Same with him.

But I still think it's SW and QS.

Another reason I'm not fond of QS here is that he'll seemingly have to get a new origin. Scientific in nature, most likely. They know that WB will have a Prominent Flash in either the JL movie or an endscener in another film on the spiderweb.

Why bring up this comparison, QS who may be closer in origin to Barry (Should be Wally), and in big films around the same time.

It's gonna get tonnes and tonnes of comparisons. Who did it better, worst, sexier, etc.

Why not just stay away from that. You don't want the audience to start noticing all the simarities, do you?