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@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2020 - 09:38 PM)

I tan nicely! But also have a family history of cancer... so... yeah, pasty for me it is.

@  Otaku : (23 February 2020 - 04:22 PM)

I really do begin to get sunburned after about 5 minutes of direct exposure, nowadays.  Side effect of already being pasty then going on a particular medication.  Yay?

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2020 - 01:36 PM)

It makes me burn. Accursed daystar.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 February 2020 - 01:33 PM)

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy....

@  Vexwing : (22 February 2020 - 03:26 AM)

I watched L.I.L.Y.Cat on there a while back, it was surprisingly good.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2020 - 08:47 PM)

@Dekafox, no DTP, but they DO have LILY Cat ;)

@  CORVUS : (21 February 2020 - 08:46 PM)

For me, it's "chocolate therapy".

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2020 - 08:32 PM)

Tonight dough owns my soul.

@  CORVUS : (21 February 2020 - 07:28 PM)

Stupid, delicious Ben & Jerry's.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2020 - 06:42 PM)

Ahh. I remember watching Bubblegum Crisis 2020 or whatever.

@  Dekafox : (21 February 2020 - 06:25 PM)

Next you'll say they have Dominion Tank Police and L.I.L.Y.Cat

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2020 - 06:06 PM)

Bubblegum Crisis, going by several shouts down.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2020 - 05:38 PM)

BGC?

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Enjoy the fudgy icing of this Hostess Cup Cake!

@  Telly : (21 February 2020 - 02:31 PM)

harlock is on tubi as well. not dubbed though :(

@  Rhinox42 : (21 February 2020 - 01:19 PM)

Blugh, the english dub of BGC is atrocious.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I might need to update my software, or they face regional limitations, cause I found no evidence of either.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 February 2020 - 10:31 PM)

DUDE! Starcom and COPS are on Tubi too!

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 February 2020 - 09:29 PM)

Spiffy! The english dub of Bubblegum Crisis on Tubi. It's gotten so hard to find these oldies on modern streaming services.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2020 - 08:44 PM)

And now I know and now I know and now I know that you can hear me, know that you can hear me, know that you can hear me.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2020 - 08:31 PM)

Oh, oh, people can you hear me? People can you hear me? People can you hear me?

@  Echowarrior : (20 February 2020 - 06:39 PM)

Let me go-o-o-o!

@  Telly : (20 February 2020 - 05:41 PM)

Galileo Galileo!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 February 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Very very fright-ning me!

@  Sabrblade : (20 February 2020 - 04:02 PM)

*thunder and lightning*

@  ▲ndrusi : (20 February 2020 - 03:46 PM)

Ah, ah, ah!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 February 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Already did. It didn't take long.

@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Edit: Ok, just trying to leave the thread open to non spoilers AND Spoilery conversation, but if a tag in the title and none in the post is prefered, I'm cool.


Wanted to talk about this and didn't see a thread.

Found it interesting that JW apparently hinted at Iron Man 3 that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch we're in his A2 script.

Hope that's true.


-ZacWilliam, There's not another Brother-Sister act in Avengers lore it could be right? They'd be a great starting point to get Vision in there, which I really want.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 25 April 2013 - 01:47 PM.

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#2 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:37 PM

While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

Also if you're going to start a thread with spoiler tags just mention spoilers in the title and carry on like normal in the thread.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:48 PM

I don't like either Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver. I don't even know how you could make her power work on screen, it's just so poorly defined. It seems hokey.

I also don't know how they'd explain them. Can they reference Fox's franchise? It seems like it may be a bit much to have to explain their origins, especially if you had to alter the mutant origin. And fanboys would be pissed at the lack of Magneto connection.

A science explanation for QS might be hard to do without veering into Flash territory.

I can't think of who else it'd be though. Vision and Jocasta are the only others that spring to mind, and that seems more doubtful and more tenuous.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2013, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.


Well, most of the classic drama and interest surrounding the Vision is rather involved with his romance with the Scarlet Witch. You lose a lot of the cool of having him there if you don't have her and her brother to play him off IMO.

So having them there is a good set up for introducing him and running with some of his classic themes IMO. Given the coming of the Antman film and how high Ultron is on the list of major Avengers villains I'm not worried about Marvel having that side of his origin covered, but this gives a foundation for what I'd like to see done with him.


-ZacWilliam, I love the Vision but without the Scarlet Witch romance angle you lose too much of his classic arc IMO.

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#7 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Not necessarily. All they legally have to do is not specifically mention "mutants" or "Magneto". In the world established they hardly have to use the term Mutant to have their superpowers make sense and saying they or their Father were know terrorists covers that part of thier origin fine.

As long as the pair are close siblings, Pietro is an arrogant super fast egoist who tries to protect his sister, and Wanda is a formerly sheltered slightly strange young woman with the ability to make things go catastrophically wrong, you've got all of them that matters characterwise.


ZacWilliam, can't think of any other siblings he could mean either...
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

You could just mention they were born with their powers and be done with it.

If Joss is using them he probably answered all the questions we're thinking of.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Most of that can be covered by simple vague information. Just say they were born with their powers, and make a comment of them being the son of Villain.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Apr 25 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


I'd say the plot point is the others wondering if they could trust them. "Apple doesn't fall far from the tree" type thing. worst Case scenario claim that he is dead, and make it sound vague to leave room enough for if Marvel ever gets the rule rights back, to introduce him.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

And then it turns out to be the Strucker twins.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(Rhinox @ Apr 25 2013, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.


Which one? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Nightwing @ Apr 25 2013, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.


True, with a 2015 release date, Avengers 2 would beat DC/WB to the punch with a silver-screen speedster.

Either way, I would be happy to see those two in the next film, mention of Magneto/Mutants or not. They need to show us (the audience) that the world of the MCU is rapidly growing to include heroes (and villains) from all over the world, and of all walks of life.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


I don't see how he is, but for him to be completely accurate we probably need Wonder Man on the team first.

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#19 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


You're lame and rediculous. ;p Vision rocks.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Vision that is one iota less realistic then every other character in the Avengers films.


-ZacWilliam, sure his visuals will stand a more realistic tweaking but everyone else has gotten that too.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

Vision and Wonder Man being added to the first's cast would be brilliant. For me.

*Sorry for weird grammar, sleeping pill is starting to kick in.

OR: could it be Vision and Wasp? There's the speculation/almost certainty/maybe of Wasp being in it.

If Vision is created, he may see Wasp as his sister. She was something else, but became something new after Pym stepped in. Same with him.

But I still think it's SW and QS.

Another reason I'm not fond of QS here is that he'll seemingly have to get a new origin. Scientific in nature, most likely. They know that WB will have a Prominent Flash in either the JL movie or an endscener in another film on the spiderweb.

Why bring up this comparison, QS who may be closer in origin to Barry (Should be Wally), and in big films around the same time.

It's gonna get tonnes and tonnes of comparisons. Who did it better, worst, sexier, etc.

Why not just stay away from that. You don't want the audience to start noticing all the simarities, do you?