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@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Edit: Ok, just trying to leave the thread open to non spoilers AND Spoilery conversation, but if a tag in the title and none in the post is prefered, I'm cool.


Wanted to talk about this and didn't see a thread.

Found it interesting that JW apparently hinted at Iron Man 3 that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch we're in his A2 script.

Hope that's true.


-ZacWilliam, There's not another Brother-Sister act in Avengers lore it could be right? They'd be a great starting point to get Vision in there, which I really want.

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#2 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:37 PM

While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

Also if you're going to start a thread with spoiler tags just mention spoilers in the title and carry on like normal in the thread.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:48 PM

I don't like either Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver. I don't even know how you could make her power work on screen, it's just so poorly defined. It seems hokey.

I also don't know how they'd explain them. Can they reference Fox's franchise? It seems like it may be a bit much to have to explain their origins, especially if you had to alter the mutant origin. And fanboys would be pissed at the lack of Magneto connection.

A science explanation for QS might be hard to do without veering into Flash territory.

I can't think of who else it'd be though. Vision and Jocasta are the only others that spring to mind, and that seems more doubtful and more tenuous.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2013, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.


Well, most of the classic drama and interest surrounding the Vision is rather involved with his romance with the Scarlet Witch. You lose a lot of the cool of having him there if you don't have her and her brother to play him off IMO.

So having them there is a good set up for introducing him and running with some of his classic themes IMO. Given the coming of the Antman film and how high Ultron is on the list of major Avengers villains I'm not worried about Marvel having that side of his origin covered, but this gives a foundation for what I'd like to see done with him.


-ZacWilliam, I love the Vision but without the Scarlet Witch romance angle you lose too much of his classic arc IMO.

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#7 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Not necessarily. All they legally have to do is not specifically mention "mutants" or "Magneto". In the world established they hardly have to use the term Mutant to have their superpowers make sense and saying they or their Father were know terrorists covers that part of thier origin fine.

As long as the pair are close siblings, Pietro is an arrogant super fast egoist who tries to protect his sister, and Wanda is a formerly sheltered slightly strange young woman with the ability to make things go catastrophically wrong, you've got all of them that matters characterwise.


ZacWilliam, can't think of any other siblings he could mean either...
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

You could just mention they were born with their powers and be done with it.

If Joss is using them he probably answered all the questions we're thinking of.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Most of that can be covered by simple vague information. Just say they were born with their powers, and make a comment of them being the son of Villain.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Apr 25 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


I'd say the plot point is the others wondering if they could trust them. "Apple doesn't fall far from the tree" type thing. worst Case scenario claim that he is dead, and make it sound vague to leave room enough for if Marvel ever gets the rule rights back, to introduce him.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

And then it turns out to be the Strucker twins.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(Rhinox @ Apr 25 2013, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.


Which one? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Nightwing @ Apr 25 2013, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.


True, with a 2015 release date, Avengers 2 would beat DC/WB to the punch with a silver-screen speedster.

Either way, I would be happy to see those two in the next film, mention of Magneto/Mutants or not. They need to show us (the audience) that the world of the MCU is rapidly growing to include heroes (and villains) from all over the world, and of all walks of life.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


I don't see how he is, but for him to be completely accurate we probably need Wonder Man on the team first.

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#19 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


You're lame and rediculous. ;p Vision rocks.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Vision that is one iota less realistic then every other character in the Avengers films.


-ZacWilliam, sure his visuals will stand a more realistic tweaking but everyone else has gotten that too.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

Vision and Wonder Man being added to the first's cast would be brilliant. For me.

*Sorry for weird grammar, sleeping pill is starting to kick in.

OR: could it be Vision and Wasp? There's the speculation/almost certainty/maybe of Wasp being in it.

If Vision is created, he may see Wasp as his sister. She was something else, but became something new after Pym stepped in. Same with him.

But I still think it's SW and QS.

Another reason I'm not fond of QS here is that he'll seemingly have to get a new origin. Scientific in nature, most likely. They know that WB will have a Prominent Flash in either the JL movie or an endscener in another film on the spiderweb.

Why bring up this comparison, QS who may be closer in origin to Barry (Should be Wally), and in big films around the same time.

It's gonna get tonnes and tonnes of comparisons. Who did it better, worst, sexier, etc.

Why not just stay away from that. You don't want the audience to start noticing all the simarities, do you?