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@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:34 AM)

I'd also like to take the opportunity to say I despise Ebay for showing the list prices in US money.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:23 AM)

Well there is an overpriced limited edition, but I don't want to pay that much money for it.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Edit: Ok, just trying to leave the thread open to non spoilers AND Spoilery conversation, but if a tag in the title and none in the post is prefered, I'm cool.


Wanted to talk about this and didn't see a thread.

Found it interesting that JW apparently hinted at Iron Man 3 that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch we're in his A2 script.

Hope that's true.


-ZacWilliam, There's not another Brother-Sister act in Avengers lore it could be right? They'd be a great starting point to get Vision in there, which I really want.

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#2 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:37 PM

While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

Also if you're going to start a thread with spoiler tags just mention spoilers in the title and carry on like normal in the thread.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:48 PM

I don't like either Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver. I don't even know how you could make her power work on screen, it's just so poorly defined. It seems hokey.

I also don't know how they'd explain them. Can they reference Fox's franchise? It seems like it may be a bit much to have to explain their origins, especially if you had to alter the mutant origin. And fanboys would be pissed at the lack of Magneto connection.

A science explanation for QS might be hard to do without veering into Flash territory.

I can't think of who else it'd be though. Vision and Jocasta are the only others that spring to mind, and that seems more doubtful and more tenuous.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 25 2013, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While SW did marry the Vision I fail to see why you think they would be a good starting point for the Android built by the AI built by Hank Pym.


Well, most of the classic drama and interest surrounding the Vision is rather involved with his romance with the Scarlet Witch. You lose a lot of the cool of having him there if you don't have her and her brother to play him off IMO.

So having them there is a good set up for introducing him and running with some of his classic themes IMO. Given the coming of the Antman film and how high Ultron is on the list of major Avengers villains I'm not worried about Marvel having that side of his origin covered, but this gives a foundation for what I'd like to see done with him.


-ZacWilliam, I love the Vision but without the Scarlet Witch romance angle you lose too much of his classic arc IMO.

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#7 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Not necessarily. All they legally have to do is not specifically mention "mutants" or "Magneto". In the world established they hardly have to use the term Mutant to have their superpowers make sense and saying they or their Father were know terrorists covers that part of thier origin fine.

As long as the pair are close siblings, Pietro is an arrogant super fast egoist who tries to protect his sister, and Wanda is a formerly sheltered slightly strange young woman with the ability to make things go catastrophically wrong, you've got all of them that matters characterwise.


ZacWilliam, can't think of any other siblings he could mean either...
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

You could just mention they were born with their powers and be done with it.

If Joss is using them he probably answered all the questions we're thinking of.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Blade Raider @ Apr 25 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legally, the Avengers movies can use the characters, but they can not be mutants nor can they be related to Magneto in anyway. Unless Marvel gets the X-Men rights back, they will be just shadows of their characters rather than the characters are suppose to be.


Most of that can be covered by simple vague information. Just say they were born with their powers, and make a comment of them being the son of Villain.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Apr 25 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they mention children of a villain, even vaguely, then people will expect that to be a major plot point for a future villain, like the Thanos scene.


I'd say the plot point is the others wondering if they could trust them. "Apple doesn't fall far from the tree" type thing. worst Case scenario claim that he is dead, and make it sound vague to leave room enough for if Marvel ever gets the rule rights back, to introduce him.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

And then it turns out to be the Strucker twins.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE(Rhinox @ Apr 25 2013, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
screw all this beating around the bush. Just pay Fox a pittance and use the damn M word.


Which one? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Nightwing @ Apr 25 2013, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Avengers gets a speedster to the big screen first, Justice League will have that much more trouble. The Flash will seem like a shameless copycat to a lot of of people, no matter how slowly you explain it to them.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing some new Avengers though.


True, with a 2015 release date, Avengers 2 would beat DC/WB to the punch with a silver-screen speedster.

Either way, I would be happy to see those two in the next film, mention of Magneto/Mutants or not. They need to show us (the audience) that the world of the MCU is rapidly growing to include heroes (and villains) from all over the world, and of all walks of life.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


I don't see how he is, but for him to be completely accurate we probably need Wonder Man on the team first.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Apr 25 2013, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhg, no to Vision. He's lame and ridiculous. For the comics that works just fine, but the movies should be slightly more down to Earth.


You're lame and rediculous. ;p Vision rocks.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Vision that is one iota less realistic then every other character in the Avengers films.


-ZacWilliam, sure his visuals will stand a more realistic tweaking but everyone else has gotten that too.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

Vision and Wonder Man being added to the first's cast would be brilliant. For me.

*Sorry for weird grammar, sleeping pill is starting to kick in.

OR: could it be Vision and Wasp? There's the speculation/almost certainty/maybe of Wasp being in it.

If Vision is created, he may see Wasp as his sister. She was something else, but became something new after Pym stepped in. Same with him.

But I still think it's SW and QS.

Another reason I'm not fond of QS here is that he'll seemingly have to get a new origin. Scientific in nature, most likely. They know that WB will have a Prominent Flash in either the JL movie or an endscener in another film on the spiderweb.

Why bring up this comparison, QS who may be closer in origin to Barry (Should be Wally), and in big films around the same time.

It's gonna get tonnes and tonnes of comparisons. Who did it better, worst, sexier, etc.

Why not just stay away from that. You don't want the audience to start noticing all the simarities, do you?