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@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2019 - 04:42 PM)

For a time, I considered sparing your wretched little bank account....

@  Bass X0 : (23 July 2019 - 03:50 PM)

No... I accept your cookies! I... ACCEPT.. THEM...

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 July 2019 - 02:48 PM)

I don't think that's the case in Canada. Bank account debits from outside parties need to be pre-authorized at your branch or via online banking.

@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 10:04 AM)

That does sound like fun.

@  Dekafox : (23 July 2019 - 09:35 AM)

Fun note: in the US(at least), by default if someone has your routing number and account number off a check, they can pull as much money out as they want with nothing you can do about it until after the fact.

@  Paladin : (23 July 2019 - 07:23 AM)

anything burns if it gets hot enough.

@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 07:12 AM)

That's why you should keep your under-the-bed money in gold and silver--that won't burn!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 July 2019 - 05:34 AM)

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-people-have-always-complained-about-young-adults

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 July 2019 - 02:24 AM)

Disparaging the youth has been a pastime for thousands of years. Pretty much every society we have writing from has some version of "kids these days" at some point.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 July 2019 - 02:21 AM)

Numfar! dance of pain.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 July 2019 - 01:49 AM)

If the USA vanished from Earth prior to millennials (later to be joined by Generation Z) coming of age, would the global community have the same magnitude of disparaging upon youths as a pastime because old boomers are insecure about their inability to handle new technology?

@  Ashley : (23 July 2019 - 12:02 AM)

This wasn't that, this was a "we don't trust banks!" thing

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 11:57 PM)

Well I know when I first got my back pay for disability, some of the paperwork said I couldn't have so much in the bank after 30 days...so I had to take out a huge chunk of cash.

@  Ashley : (22 July 2019 - 11:53 PM)

I know a family who lost thousands of dollars in a house fire because they were literally keeping it under the bed. Don't underestimate the USA's luddism.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 10:39 PM)

The US is filled with people LITERALLY proud of their ignorance of tech. Don't expect the US to be a major power in the next 30 years.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 10:25 PM)

Most people in Australia that I've heard of use electronic transactions for rent (and similar things). I mean, doubtless there are some people who use cash for various reasons of varying levels of ethics, but most require electronic transfers.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:22 PM)

But I don't understand Paladin's premise of "allowing the landlord access to one's bank account". I'm pretty sure I have acquaintances who pay monthly by check or automated bank transfer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:15 PM)

I know many lower-end restaurants in the USA take cash only as a probable method of tax evasion. Perhaps that is why some landlords do as well. Alternatively, such people demand cash upfront because they have thin profit margins or whatever and are too afraid of spending the time and effort to pursue someone whose check or electronic payment bounced.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:14 PM)

@Nevermore The USA is a place where lots of people can proliferate at being technologically behind. e.g. almost no one accepts or pays by contactless yet despite the inherent security of the process. And by having a population of over 300 million we can generate large quantities of believers in the Luddite fallacy and such.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:59 PM)

I pay by credit card whenever possible for the rewards/points, but utilities don't usually allow that so those I just pay through the online bill payment feature rather than mess around with pre-authorizations

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:57 PM)

Most monthly or whatever payments are done electronically around here, I think. Mine certainly are. Whether by pre-authorized debit, an e-transfer (transfer from one bank account to another), or your bank's online bill payment system/database

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:04 PM)

If I overpaid, it may take several months for them to pay me back the difference. If I underpaid, they're very quick with demanding the difference.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:03 PM)

Meanwhile, I can write a tax report, but since the employer already deduced the standard legal taxes from my monthly payment, the tax report is also mostly just to let the tax authority determine if I underpaid or overpaid.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:02 PM)

Based on my average costs for the year, they will then calculate the estimated monthly costs for the upcoming year.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:01 PM)

At the end of the year, the power company will send me an annual invoice which shows if I overpaid or underpaid. If I overpaid, the difference may just be deduced from my December bill.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

I also pay my monthly gas and electricity bills that way.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

It's funny. Here in Germany, many people still pay cash in stores, restaurants etc. (the staff usually asks "cash or wireless?"), but many regular payments are handled wirelessly and automatically.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Around the same time, I get sent a slip from payroll that lists my gross income, all the deductions and the net income, i.e. the final transaction sum.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:56 PM)

My monthly payment from my employer is wirelessly transferred to my bank account. Taxes, health insurance, unemployment insurance and social security fees are calculated by the payroll department, handled by the employer, and I just get paid the rest after taxes and everything.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

yes. you're assuming US employers would pay fairly & take fairly.

@  Telly : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

we dont get paid on a monthly basis, if thats what you mean. i myself get paid every 2 weeks. some are every week. and if im telling you something you already know, just ignore me...

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:54 PM)

Which I assume doesn't work that way in the US either?

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:53 PM)

That way you may time the transaction with your monthly payment from your employer.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:52 PM)

You don't need to give the landlord access to anything. You go to your bank, show the clerk your bank account card, give them the landlord's bank details, tell them the exact amount of the rent and which day of the month the transaction should happen, sign the order, and you're done.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:49 PM)

most Americans wouldn't trust a landlord with access to their bank account.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:47 PM)

Do people in other countries really still pay their landlords in cash? Here in Germany, it's very common to have the payment as an automated bank transaction on a set day of the month, so if the payment is late, it's either the bank's fault, or there's not enough money on the bank account.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

meanwhile some of us are trying to calculate if they'll have a spare forty bucks at the end of the week for some food...

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 07:20 AM)

At least I can see where the 600 US bucks is going in this case. The MP line looks more ridiculous by the day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 July 2019 - 07:09 AM)

It's ridiculous. I'll stick to Armadacron

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 06:13 AM)

If anything, shipping is going to make the actual toy's price look affordable.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 02:28 AM)

Its like, $550 ish in US money (so probably about $800 for my Australian self) and is taller than TR Fort Max. He's gonna be a hefty boy.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 July 2019 - 10:05 PM)

Damn, that Unicron looks big. Not gonna be cheap

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2019 - 09:09 PM)

"By the way, your landlord called. Something about being late with the rent."

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2019 - 04:09 PM)

"Hi there, I'm Unicron. Your husband ordered me."

@  unluckiness : (21 July 2019 - 09:04 AM)

"Perhaps I misjudged you. Proceed on your way to the couch."

@  Donocropolis : (21 July 2019 - 07:33 AM)

I'm just afraid of what my wife would do to me if it showed up at our door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2019 - 01:23 AM)

Giant Robot Satan has that effect on people.

@  Ashley : (21 July 2019 - 12:31 AM)

So, I might not be able to get Hasbro Pulse Unicron because my mother is afraid of it

@  Pennpenn : (20 July 2019 - 09:58 PM)

But that's neither here nor there.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Six of one, half-dozen of the other.


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#1 kizudarake

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:24 AM

I'm sure more than a few of us on here play Magic: The Gathering casually, or even as a hobby. If you do, feel free to skip past this next section.
If you don't, here's a very short rundown of the basic game.

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Magic: The Gathering is a collectible card game published by Wizards of the Coast(currently a division of Hasbro). It's played with decks of 60 to 100 cards(With some variants affecting the number of cards used.), one deck per person. Most local comic stores hold a weekly tournament each Friday, called Friday Night Magic, with other tournaments occasionally popping up. Some are free, others have a small buy-in, at the friendly level of the game. The goal is to utilize your cards to reach one of several outcomes in the game: Reduce your opponent to zero life, or to cause your opponent to have to draw a card when he has no more cards available to draw.

Intro Packs, which currently include a 60-card deck and two 15-card booster packs are a great way to start playing, and have an MSRP of US$14.99. If you choose to go this route, however, Wal-mart is selling Intro Packs for the current expansion, Gatecrash, for 14 dollars. While you're never required to buy another card past that to play casually, to play in tournaments requires the occasional update of your deck. To do this, you can either buy additional booster packs, at US$3.99 a pack, MSRP, or purchase cards one or two at a time through your local game store, Amazon.com, or eBay.

***Warning: Due to a few people who have worked out a way to figure out which packs out of a booster box are most likely to contain the value cards, you're best off buying booster packs at Wal-mart or your FLGS. This technique is called Box Mapping, and is fairly complicated to do on your own.***

For the rules of the game, and additional information, please visit http://wizards.com/Magic and then click Trading Card Game near the top of the screen, then click the link labeled "New To Magic".

If you want to learn about the game and never hold a card in your hand, there is a digital product available. It is called Duel of the Planeswalkers, the current edition is 2013, and it is available through Steam, PSN, Xbox Live, and, new to this addition, on the iPad App Store. It will additionally be available through the Android Store once 2014 is released.

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For those who are already familiar with the game, the new expansion, the last in the Return To Ravnica block, is titled Dragon Maze. The prerelease event is scheduled to occur on April 27, 2013, and will be MSRP $25.00. Players will be able to choose between one of 10 possible guild packs. Each Dragon Maze prerelease guild pack will contain 4 Dragon's Maze booster packs, one prerelease booster pack for the guild you choose, and one prerelease booster pack for a guild that shares one color with your chosen guild.

What does this mean?

It means that if you choose Golgari, whose colors are green and black, inside you'll find the Golgari prerelease pack from Return to Ravnica, as well as the prerelease booster pack for either Orzhov(Black/White), Rakdos(Black/Red), Dimir(Black/Blue), Selesnya(Green/White), Gruul(Green/Red), or Simic(Green/Blue).

After you assemble your deck, then the fun begins!

I plan to visit Knight's Comics and Games in Henderson, KY for my prerelease. I'm rolling either Golgari or Dimir. Who knows? I might see one or more of you there!

Hopefully, from this point on, this thread will be used to discuss the game, the cards, how to play, and what decks you use, or plan to use. This thread is currently, and will remain a positive thread, at least in regards to posters. If you have opinions on a deck or some cards someone else is running, then be sure to be constructive with your comments. If you have an opinion on WOTC, the game itself, or the public face of magic, feel free to go wild. Of course, board rules apply.

Edited by kizudarake, 16 April 2013 - 04:26 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 07:40 AM

I miss the red/white guild from the original set. Twas awesome and my favorite, but I will probably pick up a Selesnya set.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 07:53 AM

I only played MTG once, I had a friend in high school who used to go to Tourniments and even win them occasionally. When he found out I liked TCGs, he decided to teach me to play. He let me use one of his decks and taught me as we played, I caught on quickly and ended up winning by a good deal. He never wanted to play again with me after that. I think I hurt his pride, lol.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:49 AM

Admittedly it a tad buried but we already have a thread going for M:TG guys.

M:TG discussion

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE(Daith @ Apr 16 2013, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Admittedly it a tad buried but we already have a thread going for M:TG guys.

M:TG discussion

Nearly a year since the last post, it can stay buried.

For content, here's the deck I took to Friday Night Magic last week. It performed really well, and was a fast deck out of the gate, no pun intended. It's especially nice, considering the most expensive card is approx. two dollars.

Cheap gates

If you can get a guild gate with red out first turn, then one with a forest second turn, you're setting up a good combo with Burning Tree emissary.
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:20 AM

I miss the casual tournaments that used to take place at the Toy Vault at the Rhode Island Mall. But now the Mall's dead and I never bothered trying to go somewhere else to play. Maybe I should.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(TheMightyMollusk @ Apr 16 2013, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I miss the casual tournaments that used to take place at the Toy Vault at the Rhode Island Mall. But now the Mall's dead and I never bothered trying to go somewhere else to play. Maybe I should.


There's the Comic Doctor in Cranston, if you meant the Rhode Island Mall in Warwick. The reviews say it's nice.
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:47 AM

QUOTE(kizudarake @ Apr 16 2013, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TheMightyMollusk @ Apr 16 2013, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I miss the casual tournaments that used to take place at the Toy Vault at the Rhode Island Mall. But now the Mall's dead and I never bothered trying to go somewhere else to play. Maybe I should.


There's the Comic Doctor in Cranston, if you meant the Rhode Island Mall in Warwick. The reviews say it's nice.

It's also a little small for a claustrophobe. But my biggest problem with getting out and playing more is that I'm antisocial and lack initiative.

Also I don't like constructed tournaments because of net decks. I accept that I'm not so great at the game, but can I lose to a different deck once in a while?

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE(TheMightyMollusk @ Apr 16 2013, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(kizudarake @ Apr 16 2013, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TheMightyMollusk @ Apr 16 2013, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I miss the casual tournaments that used to take place at the Toy Vault at the Rhode Island Mall. But now the Mall's dead and I never bothered trying to go somewhere else to play. Maybe I should.


There's the Comic Doctor in Cranston, if you meant the Rhode Island Mall in Warwick. The reviews say it's nice.

It's also a little small for a claustrophobe. But my biggest problem with getting out and playing more is that I'm antisocial and lack initiative.

Also I don't like constructed tournaments because of net decks. I accept that I'm not so great at the game, but can I lose to a different deck once in a while?

Granted, mine's technically going to be a net deck for you, but it's really cheap and might be fun to toy with.

And if you want to avoid a constructed tournament, next Saturday's the prerelease of the new set.

Edited by kizudarake, 16 April 2013 - 11:58 AM.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:31 PM

Ok haven't even touched any Dragons maze yet but todays Facebook reveals for Core Set 2014 has me jumping for joy.


Slivers! Ah ya!

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:03 AM

Hey, maybe now I can build a Commander sliver deck. (Granted, the main thing stopping me previously was laziness).

Also, Dragon's Maze does not seem to actually contain any DRAGONS. What.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:19 PM

It has a card that turns everything into dragons for a turn. That's something.

IIRC, Niv Mizzet is the only dragon in Ravnica.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:32 AM

So... I'm not liking the new Slivers. The old ones were iconic, in every sense of the word. Besides being a famous Magic creature type they were also easily recognizable. Which I think is actually kind of important when playing with them (just like dealing with Elf decks, having them look similar makes identifying pumps just that much easier to grok...) Also they just look like every other modern Magic villain now. At a glance they blend well with New Phyrexians and the Eldrazi drones which is such a bad idea.
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QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ May 7 2013, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It has a card that turns everything into dragons for a turn. That's something.

IIRC, Niv Mizzet is the only dragon in Ravnica.
An awesome something! Dragonshift isn't the perfect card, but turning all your creatures into dragons is ridiculous.

And Niv technically wasn't the only, just the most famous of the few remaining.
In the original Ravnica block we got him, and Rakdos Pit Dragon and Hunted Dragon. So, I guess other than Niv, the dragons left were kinda down on their luck.
Now the Return to Ravnica block... only three new dragons other than Niv-Mizzet; but they're much more typical of the big, bombastic dragons you'd expect: Hypersonic Dragon, Utvara Hellkite, and Hellkite Tyrant. Oh, and another card of Niv himself. So four dragons!


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:07 AM

Oh right, my bad. Totally forgot about those guys.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:43 AM

The new sliver artwork does kind of bug me but they are the adaptive species of Magic. Didn't the Time Spiral sets say something about accelerating their evolution or such.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:40 PM

Just noticed, the old slivers buffed ALL slivers, but these just buff slivers you control.

Wonder if we'll get a new legendary sliver to go with them. Or if Wizards is feeling really insane, a sliver planeswalker.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:18 PM

QUOTE(TheMightyMollusk @ May 8 2013, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just noticed, the old slivers buffed ALL slivers, but these just buff slivers you control.

Wonder if we'll get a new legendary sliver to go with them. Or if Wizards is feeling really insane, a sliver planeswalker.


Ah this is a good point. Kinda makes the slivers that much better now that you don't buff an opponents own brood. And what would a Sliver plainswalker be? A new Queen/Overlord/Legion?

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:14 AM

Thread Necromancy!

 

Admittedly I haven't been playing much at all but I hear this year we are ditching the Three Set Block and One Core set for Two of Two Set blocks. The Tarkir block is going to be the last three block sets. And just announced the core set will be called Magic Origins and will lorewise be exploring the beginnings of Gideon, Jace, Liliana, Chandra, and Nissa who are going to also be featured in the first of the Two Block sets. So I'm going to be cool with the new stories coming out a bit faster with the potential to both see new planes and revisit older ones both within a year.



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Posted 09 February 2015 - 01:19 AM

I wonder then if their going to put out a separate starter product for new players or chuck newbies in head first into regular magic sets. PErsonally i think the lack of a core sets gonna hurt the game but if it gets us back to phyrexia again im on board.


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Posted 09 February 2015 - 02:28 AM

Why dose the Op sound robotic

 

While unless baring something really awsome showing up in the expanions comeing out Im not going to to be buying much Magic in the near future if fact I have not bought any MTG in a year or so That said.Im not dissing the game theres been some great progress made in the game and some neat products(I still want to het that Chandra t-shirt and maybe her and Liliana's action figuer

 

I been a player of the game sence Ice Age with Tempest being my favorite block followed by Urza Saga I loved it I had a lot of fun with it over the years and some time this week I will be getting with a bunch of kids to show them the ropes of deck building and play mechinics

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