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@  Waspinator : (17 December 2018 - 12:29 AM)

I'd say it's more of a crushing sensation than a sucking one.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 December 2018 - 09:57 PM)

Whole heartedly agree.

@  Paladin : (16 December 2018 - 07:22 PM)

migraines suck.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2018 - 04:39 PM)

They may have had it earlier than that; Risa uses weather control tech to maintain its resort-style climate, and it was shown to already be established in the late 22nd century

@  wonko the sane? : (16 December 2018 - 03:13 PM)

By next gen they had weather control on earth, and were even in the process of upgrading the geologic stability network. So yeah: habitat maintenance on the next level.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 December 2018 - 02:51 PM)

Something something invert polarity something technobabble something.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2018 - 02:38 PM)

I imagine World War III managed to decimate enough of the industrial economies that they inadvertently managed to exceed their carbon reduction targets from the Paris Accords, and then by the time Earth got back on its feet after the development of warp drive and first contact with the Vulcans, electricity was able to be generated cleanly and much more efficiently

@  The Doctor Who : (16 December 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I mean, they have futuristic weather control satellites and everything, I would imagine that global warming is a thing of the past in Trek.

@  unluckiness : (16 December 2018 - 09:39 AM)

How's that unrealistic? Not even the ocean wants it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

The most unrealistic thing (from a U.S. perspective) is that Florida isn't underwater!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

I was reminded today of a funny thing about Star Trek:

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:58 PM)

Whatever they can sell it for?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 December 2018 - 09:48 PM)

Geez, WTF do those China sellers on eBay need my phone number for?

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Does the PotP voyager Starscream's chest stick out so far in combiner torso mode? It's kinda weird how much Elita Infinite's back seems so empty up top but very... protruding lower down.

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 01:26 AM)

Trying to fit Elita One's combiner head back into her torso is a pain in the arse (and not just because her torso becomes her arse in combiner torso mode)

@  RichardT1977 : (14 December 2018 - 10:04 PM)

Power corrupts and corruption empowers.

@  Echowarrior : (14 December 2018 - 07:10 PM)

Welcome to real life...at least until enough people get fed up and they break out the guillotines.

@  Pennpenn : (14 December 2018 - 06:58 PM)

It's almost as if the people with the most money have funneled money into making the systems of government and law serve their purposes in retaining their wealth, no matter how harmful, counterintuitive, or just flat out evil they have to be. Huh.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/mother-jones-vandersloot-melaleuca-lawsuit/

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:45 PM)

Some states have laws against that, but they're in a tiny minority. There are plenty of cases where rich people have gone after journalists and their employers for accurate reporting, lost, but still left their targets saddled with hundreds of thousands ofdollars in legal fees and no hope of recovering anyof the money because a partisan judge has decreed that while they're innocent, they're not innocent enough.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:43 PM)

The american system is as bad, there are plenty of cases of billionaires or corporations filing libel suits purely to kill reporting or activisim against their activities. SLAPP suits. Strategic Lawsuits against public participation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:48 PM)

e.g. British libel laws place the burden of proof on the accuser, which is how we wind up with Emirati billionaires suing Western journalists in British courts

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:46 PM)

Never visited the UK in my life, but reading about British laws in the news gives me the vibe that British culture inherently protects the wealthy and established.

@  Anonymous X : (14 December 2018 - 12:39 PM)

Sounds a lot better than labour law in the UK. It's bare minimum standards here, you don't get any employment rights as such in the first two years of employment (and the employer can arbitrarily reset the clock). Unions are limited to a few public sector professions as well; in the private sector, there basically aren't any unions.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:25 PM)

Bonus points if your company has a works council. The employer is required by law to hear the works council prior to giving you your termination. The works council cannot prevent your termination if the employer really insists on going through with it, but if the employer failed to hear the works council, didn't wait for the works council to respond, or failed to tell the works council *all* the relevant details, the termination is legally invalid due to a technicality.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:23 PM)

The employer has to tell you the reason for your termination if you explicitly ask for it, and if you can prove the reason is factually incorrect, the employer may lose the case.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

For all its flaws, I really like a lot about our German labor law. Here, if you're under a permanent contract and have been continually employed for over six months, employers can only fire you for reasons that fall into one of three categories defined by law, and the burden of proof is on the employer's side in a potential court case.

@  Paladin : (13 December 2018 - 05:38 PM)

in brightest day or blackest night?

@  Bass X0 : (13 December 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Finally we get a Greenlight toy.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 December 2018 - 04:58 PM)

See.. In America they would just fire you for having the wrong color shoes on or some BS reason.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:13 AM)

And hey, in addition to the clocked extra hours, I earned an additional 50% overtime bonus.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:12 AM)

This past Saturday, in full expectance of a strike this week, I worked a full extra shift. They assigned me and some of the other volunteers to a totally pointless task, while some ladies were seriously sweeping the floor. When asked how long I was planning to stay, I smiled and said "a full shift!"

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

"You were asking for volunteers, right? I'm staying." - "But we have no more work for you!" - "I don't see how that's *my* problem..."

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

It's possible to use that to troll the employer a little, though... Once they allow voluntary overtime, they cannot backtrack from that. So once you notice you're rapidly running out of work, you just decide to do overtime out of spite.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:08 AM)

Now if there's *no* strike... people eventually run out of work.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:07 AM)

Amazon is prepared for strikes... they just hire way too many people for the Christmas season. If there's a strike, they still have enough (albeit inexperienced) workers.

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 07:49 PM)

Not one bit :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 December 2018 - 06:46 PM)

@Steevy Did you read TM2's post? "Amazon.de".

@  Paladin : (12 December 2018 - 06:37 PM)

just wait until the European economy collapses up its Brexit-shaped asshole.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Probably not a ton of people, no. Although I'd say I order from one European Amazon site once every month or two, myself. Usually UK, but sometimes Germany as well. France and Italy a couple times, too. There are some good Blu-Ray releases that are exclusive to Europe

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 06:00 PM)

I'm not sure a European strike is going to impact North American customers.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 04:13 PM)

Well, somebody must've been working 'cuz I had an order in with Amazon.de that got shipped out the other day

@  Echowarrior : (12 December 2018 - 01:29 PM)

Amazon.

@  Benbot : (12 December 2018 - 01:01 PM)

AOL?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2018 - 08:22 PM)

Also, strike has been extended. So no working for 50 minutes. Would have been fun, though.

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2018 - 08:21 PM)

I said numerous times already that I work at that big American corporation that begins with "A".

@  Waspinator : (11 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

Preferably the equivalent of Lara Croft or Indiana Jones a thousand years from now

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 December 2018 - 02:26 PM)

The turkeys... The answer is always the Turkeys.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 December 2018 - 02:05 PM)

Who would be the heroes in this situation?

@  Waspinator : (11 December 2018 - 02:03 PM)

When I die, I want my body to be part of a puzzle solution. Like, have my skeleton pointing at the clue the heroes are supposed to find.


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#1 Zyking

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:56 AM

Sony held a conference on February 20th 2013.

The official specs from Sony:

- Main Processor: Single chip custom processor. CPU is an x86-64 AMD "Jaguar", 8 cores.

- GPU is an custom made AMD next-generation Radeon graphics engine rated at 1.84 teraflops with 18 unified Compute Units. Based on the Radeon 7000-series desktop graphics cards.

- Memory: 8GB GDDR5 with 176GB/s bandwidth.

- Hard Drive: Built-in ( No word on capacity )

- Optical Drive (read only): BD 6x CAV, DVD 8x CAV

- I/O: Super-Speed USB 3.0, Aux (for PS4 Eye)

- Communication: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T), IEEE 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1 (EDR)

- AV Output: HDMI, Analogue AV out, optical digital audio output

- Controller: DualShock 4, Move features, small touchpad screen, share button, headphone socket. Similar in design as before.


Other info and some rumors

- Easy to develop for
- Developers seems to be pleased with its performance and abilities
- Focus on sharing and social gaming, like posting videos of ones gameplay, realtime streaming of gameplay, chat rooms etc etc
- New UI and menus
- Connectivity with Vita - Offscreen play Wii U style!
- Backwards compability with PS3 games is unclear, but it is said to have som form of cloud-based backwards compability
- Will likely have Paid subscription for "most" of its online features, similar to Xbox Live, and the ability to hook up your smartphone, similar to SmartGlass.
- Price is rumored to be in the $400-450 range, probably ?400 in the UK, ?400-450 in Eurozone. Although a report say that one version of the Orbis will cost $529.
- Rumored to come out in November this year.

Games shown:

- Knack

- Killzone Shadow Fall

- Some racing game ( Will find name... )

- Infamous: Second Son

- The Witness

- Deep down. ( from Capcom )

- Watch Dogs

- Diablo 3 ( Yes the one from Blizzard! )

- Destiny ( from Bungie )

- EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Square Enix etc etc all on board for PS4.

Edited by Zyking, 22 February 2013 - 09:52 AM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:59 AM

Oh yeah, I'll need to stay up for this. How many hours til the show?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:18 AM

It starts in about 12 hours, I think.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:23 AM

Its:

6 pm Eastern

3 pm Western

11 pm UK

At midnigt in Scandinavia and several parts of Europe

Edited by Zyking, 20 February 2013 - 05:23 AM.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it". - Upton Sinclair.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning". - Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!" - George Carlin.

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". -John Lennon.

"A lot of things have been done in the name of Jesus that heaven does not approve of" - Jostein Gaarder.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, surrounded by bungholes." -William Gibson


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:23 AM

I'm kind of surprised this even exists. There's been like no money in their R&D budget.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:27 AM

Considering both the CPU and the GPU is AMD based, maybe Sony outsourced most of the design and development of the Orbis to them, though perhaps providing AMD with a few engineers ?

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it". - Upton Sinclair.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning". - Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!" - George Carlin.

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". -John Lennon.

"A lot of things have been done in the name of Jesus that heaven does not approve of" - Jostein Gaarder.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, surrounded by bungholes." -William Gibson


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:31 AM

Im excited....a bit pissed I need to get up earlier than normal to watch it but still excited!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:46 AM

11PM!? I'm usually in bed with a hot water bottle and mug of Horlicks by then, what with my hedonistic rock and roll lifestyle.

I might just have to wait until tomorrow to find out how exciting/disappointing/infuriating this will end up being. Drat!
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:52 AM

My bad. Gametrailer's coverage starts at 5pm EST, so that threw me off. They'll probably just speculate for an hour beforehand.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:24 AM

QUOTE(Zyking @ Feb 20 2013, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Considering both the CPU and the GPU is AMD based, maybe Sony outsourced most of the design and development of the Orbis to them, though perhaps providing AMD with a few engineers ?


... But wouldn't they still have to fund it?

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The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:09 AM

Well, I can't wait to see what they are going to do. I really haven't used my PS3 for that much gaming, mainly just used it for Blu-ray movies, but I can't wait to see an actual next gen console.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Given AMD's performance in recent years, I have little hope for that system.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

PS3 was the lesser beast in this house. We got the Xbox360 ourselves about a year after it came out because there were games we wanted to play. PS3 we got as a gift the next Xmas... And it was a Blu-ray player primarily because there was nothing else we were interested to do on it that our Xbox didn't do in a easier better interfaced manner. Sure the Internet stuff was free but it was also terrible and slow compared to Xbox. Now in the last year or two the PS3 has improved for us a bit and we actually game on it occasionally now. But it still remains a secondary system that we probably wouldn't replace if it broke (vs the Xbox that would be replaced in a matter of days likely.)

So what would I hope for tonight? Cheaper system. More interesting games. MUCH BETTER interface and Internet service. Backwards compatible.

What do I expect? Too Expensive. A bunch of shooters and God of War stuff I don't care about. Good graphics. Attempts to copy what works for other companies but not implemented as well. Interface that's still awkward. Internet service that's still slow.



-ZacWilliam, not meaning to be pessimistic, beleive it or not, loved PS and PS2 but the PS3 was such a huge screw up I honestly am not sure I believe they've learned their lesson.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, not meaning to be pessimistic, beleive it or not, loved PS and PS2 but the PS3 was such a huge screw up I honestly am not sure I believe they've learned their lesson.

Well, after how bad the Vita flopped, you'd have every reason to be unsure.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Feb 20 2013, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Given AMD's performance in recent years, I have little hope for that system.


AMD's products, technology and R&D are quite good, actually.

But if you are thinking of financial performance, then yes, they aren't doing too well. Still good revenue and overall they make money, but they also endured layoffs. Nowhere near as bad as the shape they were in back in the late 90's though, AMD basically saved themselves in 99/00 when they launched the Athlon processors that competed well and in some areas was better than Intel's Pentium 3. icon-hotrod.gif

Edited by Zyking, 20 February 2013 - 01:40 PM.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it". - Upton Sinclair.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning". - Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!" - George Carlin.

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". -John Lennon.

"A lot of things have been done in the name of Jesus that heaven does not approve of" - Jostein Gaarder.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, surrounded by bungholes." -William Gibson


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE(Spin Out @ Feb 20 2013, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, not meaning to be pessimistic, beleive it or not, loved PS and PS2 but the PS3 was such a huge screw up I honestly am not sure I believe they've learned their lesson.

Well, after how bad the Vita flopped, you'd have every reason to be unsure.



Man, I feel so sorry for people who own a Vita. An expensive, but nice system, however you'd have thought that Sony would have learned the lesson of the PSP. Yet, here we are, still with no huge blockbuster games on the damn thing. At least the 3DS has some really nice stuff either just coming out, coming very soon, or announced. Vita doesn't even have anything announced that's really 'stand up and pay attention'.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

Get me a Vita exclusive Elderscrolls 1-5 collection with transferable saves and I'd buy a system...

<_< other wise I'm not touching another handheld

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:07 PM

Heh, yeah, I got my PSP at launch back in 2004, it came from the very first 200K batch of PSP's.

Never did use it much though, in the end.

Interestingly enough; The PSP ended up selling quite well since then, with around 70 + million units.

Edited by Zyking, 20 February 2013 - 02:10 PM.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it". - Upton Sinclair.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning". - Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!" - George Carlin.

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". -John Lennon.

"A lot of things have been done in the name of Jesus that heaven does not approve of" - Jostein Gaarder.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, surrounded by bungholes." -William Gibson


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Feb 20 2013, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't wait to see an actual next gen console.

Judging by what "hardcore gamers" and gaming press are always going on about, you've been playing one for the last 6 years or so. The Orbis will just have a fresh coat of paint (higher resolution of course) and a cloud drive of some sort. Voila! Your next 6 years.
Reclaim the suffix.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:03 PM

Ssshhhhh....don't tell now! icon-arcee.gif

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it". - Upton Sinclair.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning". - Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!" - George Carlin.

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". -John Lennon.

"A lot of things have been done in the name of Jesus that heaven does not approve of" - Jostein Gaarder.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, surrounded by bungholes." -William Gibson




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