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@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

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Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

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I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

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Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

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That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

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They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

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What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

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Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

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My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

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Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

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Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

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And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

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My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

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Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

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It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

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Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

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Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

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The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

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The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

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@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

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Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

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Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

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The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

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That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

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The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

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And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

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Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

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I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

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#61 Tyranno

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

sorry, I was wrong on dilophosaurus's actual dimensions. It was more twenty feet LONG. and while it was small compared to later theropods, it was a damn sight more impressive than the thing in the movie.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

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Yeah Feathered Dinos just look completely ridiculous, and I'll never be able to take them seriously.

Realism is ridiculous?


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:40 PM

This thread is actually forcing me to learn things, I never knew that Spinosaurus was actually larger than T-Rex. Haven't seen JP3 in a few years, but I'm fairly sure the Spinosaurus was shown to be smaller than T-Rex.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

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I rather like the feathers on carnosaurs. The same with quills on a Triceratops.



Bird feet are weird and terrifying.


But, that's one part of birds that lacks feathers...

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Ha ha ha, no. Nothing like Jurassic Park's velociraptors ever existed, even according to science at the time. It was something completely made up to sell Books and Movies to teenagers, just like Edward Cullen.

You're just a Twihard.


Original vampires never existed either so your point is kind of lost in translation I think.


Have to agree with that there...

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They tried putting in a different predator in 3, but they screwed it up because I'm fairly sure Spinosaurus is a fish eating dinosaur.


You might be thinking of Baryonyx. But they do have similar jaw structure.


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Feb 17 2013, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This thread is actually forcing me to learn things, I never knew that Spinosaurus was actually larger than T-Rex. Haven't seen JP3 in a few years, but I'm fairly sure the Spinosaurus was shown to be smaller than T-Rex.

No, it was depicted as larger, which it was. However it was also depicted as taking out T-Rex, which it would have been hard-pressed to do had it ever encountered one.

Edited by CORVUS, 17 February 2013 - 09:42 PM.

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#66 Tyranno

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:43 PM



This is closer to what Dilophosaurus actually looked like.

Look at it. It's sleek, but powerful looking. Its crests make it look refined.

The fake thing in the first Jurassic Park doesn't even compare.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

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This thread is actually forcing me to learn things, I never knew that Spinosaurus was actually larger than T-Rex. Haven't seen JP3 in a few years, but I'm fairly sure the Spinosaurus was shown to be smaller than T-Rex.

No, it was depicted as larger, which it was. However it was also depicted as taking out T-Rex, which it would have been hard-pressed to do had it ever encountered one.


yeah. There have been several dinosaurs that have dethroned Tyrannosaurus in terms of size, but generally, bite for bite, Tyrannosaurus was the toughest of all of them. Spinosaurus was primarily a piscovore or opportunistic killer, while the likes of Giganotosaurus and Charchardontosaurus's jaws were suited more towards slicing and pulling than biting and bone cracking.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:46 PM

Maybe they mixed it up with something else.

Aside from the head, the dino in Jurassic Park looks nothing like that thing.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:50 PM

To me, Dinosaurs have only become more connected to our reality with the discovery of their feathers. There always something off and strange about the appearance of the bipedal predators, and now it has become clear what it was: They were naked. Like a shaved bear, they are simply incomplete when their skin is exposed. Those weird, dangly, pathetic arms on Tyrannosaurs? A lot more dignified when they're more akin to small, ornamental wings to attract mates.

And if you think that feathered carnivores don't look terrifying, you might want to familiarize yourself with the raptors of the present day.











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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:50 PM

I used to take care of some cassowaries. They are totally what I imagine feathered dinosaurs to be like.
That video doesn't have great footage, but most of them are like that... all the time. Sure they will be happy to take food out of your hands, but they are also very eager to flying-jump-kick you to death. They took running jump kicks at the fence all the time when I took care of them. And that hiss is pretty impressive in person too.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

No, they didn't mix it up with anything. The venom bulljive was made up by Michael Crichton for the book, because scientists at the time thought Dilophosaurus had weak jaws. So he made it venomous to explain how it could have successfully hunted its prey. He did however get the thing's size right.

When they made the movie, they made it small so Nedry wouldn't think much of it at first, and then gave it those stupid frills largely because they thought it looked neat.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

It would really help if the people drawing feathered dinosaurs focused on making them look like the monsters they were.

That picture on the first page of the feathery velociraptor, with its thick coat of multiple colors, looks downright comical. Let's get some feathered dinosaurs viciously slaughtering other feathered dinosaurs.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:55 PM

If I recall correctly the raptors in JP were originally intended to be Deinonychus. Criton "consulted" with experts but decided just to call them velociraptors... and made them bigger and super smart.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

also, those arms on Tyrannosaurus? Not as useless as you might think.

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Tyrannosaurus rex forelimb bones exhibit extremely thick cortical bone, which have been interpreted as evidence that they were developed to withstand heavy loads. The biceps brachii muscle of a full-grown Tyrannosaurus rex was capable of lifting 199 kilograms (439 lb) by itself; other muscles such as the brachialis would work along with the biceps to make elbow flexion even more powerful. The M. biceps muscle of T. rex was 3.5 times as powerful as the human equivalent. A Tyrannosaurus rex forearm had a limited range of motion, with the shoulder and elbow joints allowing only 40 and 45 degrees of motion, respectively. In contrast, the same two joints in Deinonychus allow up to 88 and 130 degrees of motion, respectively, while a human arm can rotate 360 degrees at the shoulder and move through 165 degrees at the elbow. The heavy build of the arm bones, strength of the muscles, and limited range of motion may indicate a system evolved to hold fast despite the stresses of a struggling prey animal. Carpenter and Smith dismissed notions that the forelimbs were useless or that Tyrannosaurus rex was an obligate scavenger.[55]

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

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It would really help if the people drawing feathered dinosaurs focused on making them look like the monsters they were.

Which would be okay if they were monsters. However they were animals that actually existed, not monsters. If you're looking for monsters, go take a gander at a Hydra, a Griffin, or Bank of America icon-fire.gif
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE(CORVUS @ Feb 17 2013, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Feb 17 2013, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would really help if the people drawing feathered dinosaurs focused on making them look like the monsters they were.

Which would be okay if they were monsters. However they were animals that actually existed, not monsters. If you're looking for monsters, go take a gander at a Hydra, a Griffin, or Bank of America icon-fire.gif


Well not literal monsters, but dinosaurs weren't exactly docile creatures...

I always loved the dino books that showed predators attacking their prey and small dinosaurs stealing eggs and stuff.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE(Varnon @ Feb 18 2013, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used to take care of some cassowaries. They are totally what I imagine feathered dinosaurs to be like.
That video doesn't have great footage, but most of them are like that... all the time. Sure they will be happy to take food out of your hands, but they are also very eager to flying-jump-kick you to death. They took running jump kicks at the fence all the time when I took care of them. And that hiss is pretty impressive in person too.


They live in the forests near my city. Bloody dangerous. I remember a while back one kicked a dog and sent it flying. Didn't pierce the skin, just a flat kick. The blow killed the dog because it smash his internal organs and snapped bones.

Of course, lucky for us Cassowaries are a rare species....pity about their swarming, well-populated idiot jerk cousins the emus!

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

really, this sort of thing has happened before. During the Dinosaur Renaissance, everyone was so wrapped up in the old image of dinosaurs, they couldn't accept the fact that theropods walked with their tails off the ground, that sauropods didn't live in swamps, and that hadrosaurs weren't amphibious.

But eventually it caught on, and lively, warm-blooded dinosaurs became the norm.

And so this will happen again. Feathered dinosaurs will replace the scaly iguanas of Jurassic Park, and we'll see the old way of looking at them to be just as archaic as the works of Charles Knight.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I would be really worried if I saw this coming at me.



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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

Well see, that's a picture that makes a feathered dinosaur look terrifying. We need more of that.
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