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@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.


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#1 Rhinox

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

Bungie has kind of broken their silence on the big project that has been taking up their time since Halo.



Project Destiny looks to be a first person action game with a space theme. From the bits, it looks like you'll be able to customize the hell out of your guy, appearance and abilities wise, but beyond that, there's not a whole lot to glean, outside of art style.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:00 AM

The big thing is that it's an always-online, partially instanced game, like Guild Wars. Every hangs out in a central town area where you can get people to group up for missions or pvp or what have you. They specifically used MMO terminology like "dungeons" and "raids" (Luckily, it sounds like currently a "raid" is six people icon-fire.gif)

The other big thing is they're talking about supporting this franchise for the next TEN years. The original Activision leak mentioned a new game every other year, and an expansion in the inbetween years. However, this has possible changed since then.

Never got into Halo, but color me interested on this. Especially if it comes out on next-gen platforms too and not just PS3/360.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

Doesn't interest me in the slightest. Maybe that'll change once we get more information though. For now, it seems way too MMO-y.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

Agreed with the MMO part. I just don't have the time to invest in another MMO. I already almost lost my marriage over an MMO several years back. Last thing I need is to get sucked into another one.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE(Gizmoboy @ Feb 18 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed with the MMO part. I just don't have the time to invest in another MMO. I already almost lost my marriage over an MMO several years back. Last thing I need is to get sucked into another one.


They're staying away from the "MMO" word I think because of this exact thing.

But imagine if you had a character in Call of Duty whose weapons and appearance you were able to customize. Then when a new CoD game came out, that character could transfer over. Almost like a first person, online Mass Effect. At least, that's how I imagine it.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

Looks neat, but...

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Of course its going to be exclusive. It's friggen bungie. Their so far in microsofts pocket they can see the skid marks on the underoos.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Im in I like what they did with Halo so it wont hurt to at least try it out.

And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

If theres a game I really wanted to play Im goning to play it no matter where it sits


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

My interest is piqued, but I will wait and see.

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Feb 18 2013, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course its going to be exclusive. It's friggen bungie. Their so far in microsofts pocket they can see the skid marks on the underoos.

Destiny is so Microsoft-exclusive that they're also releasing it on Playstation.

They aren't committing to a PC release, at the moment.

I did see a comment on Rock, Paper, Shotgun suggesting that it may be a conflict with Titan, a Blizzard project being published by Activision at about the same time which is also a sci-fi MMO FPS thing and is aimed at the PC platform.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

I believe I saw somewhere that they outright denied it being an MMO. I don't think we are going to get as much MMO influence in this as some people are thinking.

I think it's going to be more of a persistent FPS world. Imagine Halo single player and multiplayer merged with you playing as a persistent evolving character. You could pick Covenant or Humans. Based on how well each group performs across the whole spectrum dictates how monthly single and multiplayer content is released. Covenant kick ass in a space campaign that encompasses multiplayer ship on ship and boarding action. Singleplayer/co-op missions vs AI to sabotage stuff that will in turn effect equipment available in multiplayer. Since Covenant won overall that means next months missions both campaign and multi will focus on defending Earth and driving the covenant back for the Humans, and invading the entrenched and resource heavy capital planet for the Covenant.

After 2 years when they are ready to release a new game drastic things could happen as a result of continuous wins or losses. Earth could be destroyed, new weapons could be developed based on cash invested by players for successful missions and wins. etc.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

So, it's Planetside: Halo Edition.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 18 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

I won't enjoy a game that's exclusively on a console because I won't be able to play it.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 18 2013, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, it's Planetside: Halo Edition.


Well it's not Halo, and that's just a prediction/hope.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 18 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(tec @ Feb 18 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

I won't enjoy a game that's exclusively on a console because I won't be able to play it.


I'm not anti-consoles. I'd just rather play this sort of game on a PC for a variety of reasons. If it's not coming out for my preferred platform, I have plenty of other games I can play instead.

Also, Bungie's stated reason for excluding PC is hugging bulljive:

QUOTE(Jason Jones, Bungie co-founder @ Yesterday)
?We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo deliberately to reach out to people. We limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game ? almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time. We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo ?cause nobody wants to.?


That seems like pretty much a slap in the face to the millions of people who still play FPS titles on PC. It has, however, led to some interesting research into PC vs. console sales numbers.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:01 AM

I thought that comment was really condescending as well

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

In addition to not owning the consoles, I simple do not like stick aiming nearly as much as mouse. A shooter on console is in fact inherently less fun for me, because of the platform.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 18 2013, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In addition to not owning the consoles, I simple do not like stick aiming nearly as much as mouse. A shooter on console is in fact inherently less fun for me, because of the platform.


Indeed. I watched the entire video, it reeked of arrogance. That's a big turn off for me right out of the gate.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:14 PM

Yeah, the insult to mouse-and-keyboard FPSes is pretty strange. Those still do really well on PC.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 19 2013, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, the insult to mouse-and-keyboard FPSes is pretty strange. Those still do really well on PC.



I don't really see any insult mouse and keyboard.

Before Halo the PC was the dominant platform for FPS. This is true and not insulting.

After Halo (though it's debatable how much was influenced by Halo and how much by COD) consoles have become the dominant home for FPS games. This is true and not insulting.

Recharging health and 2 or 3 weapon limit. While it's again debatable if this is what people want, the fact that it's standard in pretty much every shooter that isn't purposely trying to be old school or nostalgic implies that it probably is. Again, not insulting.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:46 PM

Given their track record, and whether you like it or no, hasn't Bungie earned the right to be somewhat arrogant? I mean, they do tend to deliver the goods, were i in their shoes, I can't say I wouldn't be overly cocky either.

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