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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

The most unrealistic thing (from a U.S. perspective) is that Florida isn't underwater!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

I was reminded today of a funny thing about Star Trek:

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:58 PM)

Whatever they can sell it for?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 December 2018 - 09:48 PM)

Geez, WTF do those China sellers on eBay need my phone number for?

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Does the PotP voyager Starscream's chest stick out so far in combiner torso mode? It's kinda weird how much Elita Infinite's back seems so empty up top but very... protruding lower down.

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 01:26 AM)

Trying to fit Elita One's combiner head back into her torso is a pain in the arse (and not just because her torso becomes her arse in combiner torso mode)

@  RichardT1977 : (14 December 2018 - 10:04 PM)

Power corrupts and corruption empowers.

@  Echowarrior : (14 December 2018 - 07:10 PM)

Welcome to real life...at least until enough people get fed up and they break out the guillotines.

@  Pennpenn : (14 December 2018 - 06:58 PM)

It's almost as if the people with the most money have funneled money into making the systems of government and law serve their purposes in retaining their wealth, no matter how harmful, counterintuitive, or just flat out evil they have to be. Huh.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/mother-jones-vandersloot-melaleuca-lawsuit/

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:45 PM)

Some states have laws against that, but they're in a tiny minority. There are plenty of cases where rich people have gone after journalists and their employers for accurate reporting, lost, but still left their targets saddled with hundreds of thousands ofdollars in legal fees and no hope of recovering anyof the money because a partisan judge has decreed that while they're innocent, they're not innocent enough.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:43 PM)

The american system is as bad, there are plenty of cases of billionaires or corporations filing libel suits purely to kill reporting or activisim against their activities. SLAPP suits. Strategic Lawsuits against public participation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:48 PM)

e.g. British libel laws place the burden of proof on the accuser, which is how we wind up with Emirati billionaires suing Western journalists in British courts

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:46 PM)

Never visited the UK in my life, but reading about British laws in the news gives me the vibe that British culture inherently protects the wealthy and established.

@  Anonymous X : (14 December 2018 - 12:39 PM)

Sounds a lot better than labour law in the UK. It's bare minimum standards here, you don't get any employment rights as such in the first two years of employment (and the employer can arbitrarily reset the clock). Unions are limited to a few public sector professions as well; in the private sector, there basically aren't any unions.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:25 PM)

Bonus points if your company has a works council. The employer is required by law to hear the works council prior to giving you your termination. The works council cannot prevent your termination if the employer really insists on going through with it, but if the employer failed to hear the works council, didn't wait for the works council to respond, or failed to tell the works council *all* the relevant details, the termination is legally invalid due to a technicality.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:23 PM)

The employer has to tell you the reason for your termination if you explicitly ask for it, and if you can prove the reason is factually incorrect, the employer may lose the case.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

For all its flaws, I really like a lot about our German labor law. Here, if you're under a permanent contract and have been continually employed for over six months, employers can only fire you for reasons that fall into one of three categories defined by law, and the burden of proof is on the employer's side in a potential court case.

@  Paladin : (13 December 2018 - 05:38 PM)

in brightest day or blackest night?

@  Bass X0 : (13 December 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Finally we get a Greenlight toy.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 December 2018 - 04:58 PM)

See.. In America they would just fire you for having the wrong color shoes on or some BS reason.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:13 AM)

And hey, in addition to the clocked extra hours, I earned an additional 50% overtime bonus.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:12 AM)

This past Saturday, in full expectance of a strike this week, I worked a full extra shift. They assigned me and some of the other volunteers to a totally pointless task, while some ladies were seriously sweeping the floor. When asked how long I was planning to stay, I smiled and said "a full shift!"

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

"You were asking for volunteers, right? I'm staying." - "But we have no more work for you!" - "I don't see how that's *my* problem..."

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

It's possible to use that to troll the employer a little, though... Once they allow voluntary overtime, they cannot backtrack from that. So once you notice you're rapidly running out of work, you just decide to do overtime out of spite.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:08 AM)

Now if there's *no* strike... people eventually run out of work.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:07 AM)

Amazon is prepared for strikes... they just hire way too many people for the Christmas season. If there's a strike, they still have enough (albeit inexperienced) workers.

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 07:49 PM)

Not one bit :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 December 2018 - 06:46 PM)

@Steevy Did you read TM2's post? "Amazon.de".

@  Paladin : (12 December 2018 - 06:37 PM)

just wait until the European economy collapses up its Brexit-shaped asshole.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Probably not a ton of people, no. Although I'd say I order from one European Amazon site once every month or two, myself. Usually UK, but sometimes Germany as well. France and Italy a couple times, too. There are some good Blu-Ray releases that are exclusive to Europe

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 06:00 PM)

I'm not sure a European strike is going to impact North American customers.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 04:13 PM)

Well, somebody must've been working 'cuz I had an order in with Amazon.de that got shipped out the other day

@  Echowarrior : (12 December 2018 - 01:29 PM)

Amazon.

@  Benbot : (12 December 2018 - 01:01 PM)

AOL?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2018 - 08:22 PM)

Also, strike has been extended. So no working for 50 minutes. Would have been fun, though.

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2018 - 08:21 PM)

I said numerous times already that I work at that big American corporation that begins with "A".

@  Waspinator : (11 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

Preferably the equivalent of Lara Croft or Indiana Jones a thousand years from now

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 December 2018 - 02:26 PM)

The turkeys... The answer is always the Turkeys.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 December 2018 - 02:05 PM)

Who would be the heroes in this situation?

@  Waspinator : (11 December 2018 - 02:03 PM)

When I die, I want my body to be part of a puzzle solution. Like, have my skeleton pointing at the clue the heroes are supposed to find.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (11 December 2018 - 12:38 PM)

Can you say where you work at? Or is that private?

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

It's completely pointless... whch is exactly the point. Hundreds of workers showing up 50 minutes before their shift is over.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

We're on strike until midnight tomorrow (Tuesday->Wednesday). Which means I will clock in at midnight and work until my shift is over... 50 minutes later.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2018 - 02:48 PM)

Hahaha, awesome.

@  Cybersnark : (09 December 2018 - 09:36 PM)

But The Pillows prefer to kill you with Poison Rock'N'Roll

@  Rodimus Supreme : (09 December 2018 - 10:23 AM)

Pillows can kill you softly.

@  Pennpenn : (09 December 2018 - 07:26 AM)

His song.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 December 2018 - 05:34 AM)

But is anything killing you softly?

@  Pennpenn : (09 December 2018 - 03:03 AM)

Oh don't be ridiculous. Some things are killing us quickly!


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#1 Rhinox

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

Bungie has kind of broken their silence on the big project that has been taking up their time since Halo.



Project Destiny looks to be a first person action game with a space theme. From the bits, it looks like you'll be able to customize the hell out of your guy, appearance and abilities wise, but beyond that, there's not a whole lot to glean, outside of art style.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:00 AM

The big thing is that it's an always-online, partially instanced game, like Guild Wars. Every hangs out in a central town area where you can get people to group up for missions or pvp or what have you. They specifically used MMO terminology like "dungeons" and "raids" (Luckily, it sounds like currently a "raid" is six people icon-fire.gif)

The other big thing is they're talking about supporting this franchise for the next TEN years. The original Activision leak mentioned a new game every other year, and an expansion in the inbetween years. However, this has possible changed since then.

Never got into Halo, but color me interested on this. Especially if it comes out on next-gen platforms too and not just PS3/360.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

Doesn't interest me in the slightest. Maybe that'll change once we get more information though. For now, it seems way too MMO-y.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

Agreed with the MMO part. I just don't have the time to invest in another MMO. I already almost lost my marriage over an MMO several years back. Last thing I need is to get sucked into another one.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE(Gizmoboy @ Feb 18 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed with the MMO part. I just don't have the time to invest in another MMO. I already almost lost my marriage over an MMO several years back. Last thing I need is to get sucked into another one.


They're staying away from the "MMO" word I think because of this exact thing.

But imagine if you had a character in Call of Duty whose weapons and appearance you were able to customize. Then when a new CoD game came out, that character could transfer over. Almost like a first person, online Mass Effect. At least, that's how I imagine it.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

Looks neat, but...

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Of course its going to be exclusive. It's friggen bungie. Their so far in microsofts pocket they can see the skid marks on the underoos.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Im in I like what they did with Halo so it wont hurt to at least try it out.

And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

If theres a game I really wanted to play Im goning to play it no matter where it sits


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

My interest is piqued, but I will wait and see.

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Feb 18 2013, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course its going to be exclusive. It's friggen bungie. Their so far in microsofts pocket they can see the skid marks on the underoos.

Destiny is so Microsoft-exclusive that they're also releasing it on Playstation.

They aren't committing to a PC release, at the moment.

I did see a comment on Rock, Paper, Shotgun suggesting that it may be a conflict with Titan, a Blizzard project being published by Activision at about the same time which is also a sci-fi MMO FPS thing and is aimed at the PC platform.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

I believe I saw somewhere that they outright denied it being an MMO. I don't think we are going to get as much MMO influence in this as some people are thinking.

I think it's going to be more of a persistent FPS world. Imagine Halo single player and multiplayer merged with you playing as a persistent evolving character. You could pick Covenant or Humans. Based on how well each group performs across the whole spectrum dictates how monthly single and multiplayer content is released. Covenant kick ass in a space campaign that encompasses multiplayer ship on ship and boarding action. Singleplayer/co-op missions vs AI to sabotage stuff that will in turn effect equipment available in multiplayer. Since Covenant won overall that means next months missions both campaign and multi will focus on defending Earth and driving the covenant back for the Humans, and invading the entrenched and resource heavy capital planet for the Covenant.

After 2 years when they are ready to release a new game drastic things could happen as a result of continuous wins or losses. Earth could be destroyed, new weapons could be developed based on cash invested by players for successful missions and wins. etc.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

So, it's Planetside: Halo Edition.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 18 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

I won't enjoy a game that's exclusively on a console because I won't be able to play it.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 18 2013, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, it's Planetside: Halo Edition.


Well it's not Halo, and that's just a prediction/hope.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 18 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(tec @ Feb 18 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

I won't enjoy a game that's exclusively on a console because I won't be able to play it.


I'm not anti-consoles. I'd just rather play this sort of game on a PC for a variety of reasons. If it's not coming out for my preferred platform, I have plenty of other games I can play instead.

Also, Bungie's stated reason for excluding PC is hugging bulljive:

QUOTE(Jason Jones, Bungie co-founder @ Yesterday)
?We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo deliberately to reach out to people. We limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game ? almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time. We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo ?cause nobody wants to.?


That seems like pretty much a slap in the face to the millions of people who still play FPS titles on PC. It has, however, led to some interesting research into PC vs. console sales numbers.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:01 AM

I thought that comment was really condescending as well

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

In addition to not owning the consoles, I simple do not like stick aiming nearly as much as mouse. A shooter on console is in fact inherently less fun for me, because of the platform.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 18 2013, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In addition to not owning the consoles, I simple do not like stick aiming nearly as much as mouse. A shooter on console is in fact inherently less fun for me, because of the platform.


Indeed. I watched the entire video, it reeked of arrogance. That's a big turn off for me right out of the gate.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:14 PM

Yeah, the insult to mouse-and-keyboard FPSes is pretty strange. Those still do really well on PC.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 19 2013, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, the insult to mouse-and-keyboard FPSes is pretty strange. Those still do really well on PC.



I don't really see any insult mouse and keyboard.

Before Halo the PC was the dominant platform for FPS. This is true and not insulting.

After Halo (though it's debatable how much was influenced by Halo and how much by COD) consoles have become the dominant home for FPS games. This is true and not insulting.

Recharging health and 2 or 3 weapon limit. While it's again debatable if this is what people want, the fact that it's standard in pretty much every shooter that isn't purposely trying to be old school or nostalgic implies that it probably is. Again, not insulting.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:46 PM

Given their track record, and whether you like it or no, hasn't Bungie earned the right to be somewhat arrogant? I mean, they do tend to deliver the goods, were i in their shoes, I can't say I wouldn't be overly cocky either.

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