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@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 01:58 PM)

Benbot, I was streaming the PS4 version of Starlink

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:25 PM)

Ergo their reporting will have its own slant on the facts as they choose, not the most neutral way possible.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 01:24 PM)

I find it sad to realize that the prestigious New York Times which I trusted a lot as a kid in fact has its own editorial agenda.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:20 PM)

The end result is NOT that stupid bullshit gets equal coverage as reasonable arguments. That would be problematic in itself (the "false balance" bias), but the provlem is that the controversial stupid bullshit gets MORE coverage than the reasonable arguments.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

The media doesn't want to miss the opportunity to report on a controversy, and as a consequence makes sure that the controversial statements reach an audience.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:17 PM)

Because they realized that saying controversial shit is guaranteed to get coverage.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:16 PM)

It's the same here in Germany. Our right-wing moron party is still a political minority, yet they succeed in driving the topics the media keeps reporting.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

The main problem was that Trump was banking on controversy, and the media was reporting controversy because it gave them ratings.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 01:15 PM)

"Fairness" was not the media's main problem.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 October 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Holy fish! Second life is still a thing?!?!

@  Benbot : (20 October 2018 - 08:32 AM)

What were you streaming, Silverclaw?

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:28 AM)

Russian interference should have been fighting an uphill battle, but as far as I'm concerned we gave them a head start.

@  Shrug : (20 October 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I disagree with Hillary being a good choice to run against Trump. Plenty of mixed feelings about her long before 2016 within our own party. When the DNC has to rig it's own primaries to get their chosen candidate running, maybe you shouldn't expect an easy landslide at the actual election.

@  Pennpenn : (20 October 2018 - 05:20 AM)

It would have also helped if the US was also an actualy democracy where the candidate who gets the most votes wins, but hey.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:42 AM)

You helped destroy western democracy, but hey, at least no-one can accuse you of bias... Oh wait, they did, still do, and are going to keep doing so as long as you report facts.

@  Rycochet : (20 October 2018 - 04:39 AM)

Hillary was a good choice to run against Trump, the big problem was the media crawling all over themselves to try and push the idea of fairness, and threw her under the bus to do so. Any hint of impropriety was treated as being exactly the same as actual proven criminal acts by Trump in order to avoid being seen as biased... and at the end of it all, he turned around and bit them for doing so because that's who he is.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:37 AM)

Many right-wingers are using its name as part of our version of the term "libtards": "Left-green filthy".

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:35 AM)

It's the only of the "established" parties (it's almost 40 years old at this point) that has remained true to its principles.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:34 AM)

Meanwhile, some uplifting news from Germany: While our big parties are rapidly losing voters, and our new "we're not really extreme" right-wing party is gaining voters, there is one other party that is scoring massive points, both in polls and the recent Bavarian state election: The Green Party.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:33 AM)

I still think having Hillary run against Drumpf was a bad choice.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 03:32 AM)

Well on the bright side, we know more people voted for HIllary than the cheeto.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:31 AM)

I guess many a prepper might have also voted for the person most likely to bring about the end of society they are waiting for.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Now let that sink in, and then think about how many people voted for Agent Orange.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2018 - 03:27 AM)

Elected officials often represent how the voters either view themselves, or how they would like to be.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 12:21 AM)

Well I had 8 people watching my stream at one time tonight.. I call that a success...

@  Telly : (19 October 2018 - 11:08 PM)

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@  MEDdMI : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

Unless it's the main cast of Persona 5.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 PM)

I realize there is a certain irony in my vocabulary selection there.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2018 - 10:01 PM)

People who admire public thieves and tricksters are.....sad.


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#1 Rhinox

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

Bungie has kind of broken their silence on the big project that has been taking up their time since Halo.



Project Destiny looks to be a first person action game with a space theme. From the bits, it looks like you'll be able to customize the hell out of your guy, appearance and abilities wise, but beyond that, there's not a whole lot to glean, outside of art style.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:00 AM

The big thing is that it's an always-online, partially instanced game, like Guild Wars. Every hangs out in a central town area where you can get people to group up for missions or pvp or what have you. They specifically used MMO terminology like "dungeons" and "raids" (Luckily, it sounds like currently a "raid" is six people icon-fire.gif)

The other big thing is they're talking about supporting this franchise for the next TEN years. The original Activision leak mentioned a new game every other year, and an expansion in the inbetween years. However, this has possible changed since then.

Never got into Halo, but color me interested on this. Especially if it comes out on next-gen platforms too and not just PS3/360.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

Doesn't interest me in the slightest. Maybe that'll change once we get more information though. For now, it seems way too MMO-y.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

Agreed with the MMO part. I just don't have the time to invest in another MMO. I already almost lost my marriage over an MMO several years back. Last thing I need is to get sucked into another one.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE(Gizmoboy @ Feb 18 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed with the MMO part. I just don't have the time to invest in another MMO. I already almost lost my marriage over an MMO several years back. Last thing I need is to get sucked into another one.


They're staying away from the "MMO" word I think because of this exact thing.

But imagine if you had a character in Call of Duty whose weapons and appearance you were able to customize. Then when a new CoD game came out, that character could transfer over. Almost like a first person, online Mass Effect. At least, that's how I imagine it.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

Looks neat, but...

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Of course its going to be exclusive. It's friggen bungie. Their so far in microsofts pocket they can see the skid marks on the underoos.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Im in I like what they did with Halo so it wont hurt to at least try it out.

And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

If theres a game I really wanted to play Im goning to play it no matter where it sits


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

My interest is piqued, but I will wait and see.

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Feb 18 2013, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course its going to be exclusive. It's friggen bungie. Their so far in microsofts pocket they can see the skid marks on the underoos.

Destiny is so Microsoft-exclusive that they're also releasing it on Playstation.

They aren't committing to a PC release, at the moment.

I did see a comment on Rock, Paper, Shotgun suggesting that it may be a conflict with Titan, a Blizzard project being published by Activision at about the same time which is also a sci-fi MMO FPS thing and is aimed at the PC platform.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

I believe I saw somewhere that they outright denied it being an MMO. I don't think we are going to get as much MMO influence in this as some people are thinking.

I think it's going to be more of a persistent FPS world. Imagine Halo single player and multiplayer merged with you playing as a persistent evolving character. You could pick Covenant or Humans. Based on how well each group performs across the whole spectrum dictates how monthly single and multiplayer content is released. Covenant kick ass in a space campaign that encompasses multiplayer ship on ship and boarding action. Singleplayer/co-op missions vs AI to sabotage stuff that will in turn effect equipment available in multiplayer. Since Covenant won overall that means next months missions both campaign and multi will focus on defending Earth and driving the covenant back for the Humans, and invading the entrenched and resource heavy capital planet for the Covenant.

After 2 years when they are ready to release a new game drastic things could happen as a result of continuous wins or losses. Earth could be destroyed, new weapons could be developed based on cash invested by players for successful missions and wins. etc.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

So, it's Planetside: Halo Edition.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 18 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

I won't enjoy a game that's exclusively on a console because I won't be able to play it.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 18 2013, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, it's Planetside: Halo Edition.


Well it's not Halo, and that's just a prediction/hope.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 18 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(tec @ Feb 18 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as far as Slanders Nope to it being on Console exclusivly.. I meen is that really a thing this day in age? you wont enjoy a game because its on a console?

I won't enjoy a game that's exclusively on a console because I won't be able to play it.


I'm not anti-consoles. I'd just rather play this sort of game on a PC for a variety of reasons. If it's not coming out for my preferred platform, I have plenty of other games I can play instead.

Also, Bungie's stated reason for excluding PC is hugging bulljive:

QUOTE(Jason Jones, Bungie co-founder @ Yesterday)
?We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo deliberately to reach out to people. We limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game ? almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time. We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo ?cause nobody wants to.?


That seems like pretty much a slap in the face to the millions of people who still play FPS titles on PC. It has, however, led to some interesting research into PC vs. console sales numbers.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:01 AM

I thought that comment was really condescending as well

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

In addition to not owning the consoles, I simple do not like stick aiming nearly as much as mouse. A shooter on console is in fact inherently less fun for me, because of the platform.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 18 2013, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In addition to not owning the consoles, I simple do not like stick aiming nearly as much as mouse. A shooter on console is in fact inherently less fun for me, because of the platform.


Indeed. I watched the entire video, it reeked of arrogance. That's a big turn off for me right out of the gate.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:14 PM

Yeah, the insult to mouse-and-keyboard FPSes is pretty strange. Those still do really well on PC.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 19 2013, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, the insult to mouse-and-keyboard FPSes is pretty strange. Those still do really well on PC.



I don't really see any insult mouse and keyboard.

Before Halo the PC was the dominant platform for FPS. This is true and not insulting.

After Halo (though it's debatable how much was influenced by Halo and how much by COD) consoles have become the dominant home for FPS games. This is true and not insulting.

Recharging health and 2 or 3 weapon limit. While it's again debatable if this is what people want, the fact that it's standard in pretty much every shooter that isn't purposely trying to be old school or nostalgic implies that it probably is. Again, not insulting.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:46 PM

Given their track record, and whether you like it or no, hasn't Bungie earned the right to be somewhat arrogant? I mean, they do tend to deliver the goods, were i in their shoes, I can't say I wouldn't be overly cocky either.

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