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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#1 Suspsy

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:47 PM

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Columbia Pictures has released the official plot synopsis to the sequel to last summer's mildly enjoyable but instantly forgettable "The Amazing Spider-Man," and not surprisingly it actually takes a few steps back from the information we already know.

The most exciting news to come out of the wall-crawler camp to date is the casting of Shailene Woodley as Peter Parker's other love interest, Mary Jane Watson, and Paul Giamatti as the villainous Aleksei Mikhailovich Sytsevich, aka the Rhino, described by writer Mike Conroy as "famously one of Spider-Man's dimmest villains" (and certainly one of his strongest). You wouldn't know they're in the movie, though, at least not if all you were going by is the synopsis.

In fact, the synopsis could easily pass for the summary of the first movie, albeit with Electro (Jamie Foxx) replacing the Lizard and the new addition of Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan), who is said to "return" (from where? Maybe the same non-location Batman "returned" from in "Batman Returns"). Indeed, the sequel takes place with Peter still in high school (how long can the pushing-30 Andrew Garfield pull that off?), romancing Gwen Stacy (Emma Stone, who will probably look 20 for the rest of her life) and "uncovering new clues" about the cloak-and-dagger stuff involving his parents that was added by the producers in an attempt to make this new series at least a little different from Sam Raimi's trilogy.

Perhaps most generic of all is that the title, at least for now, is indeed simply "The Amazing Spider-Man 2." True, Raimi's first sequel was simply called "Spider-Man 2," but in this age of comic book titles not even mentioning the hero's traditional name ("The Dark Knight," "Man of Steel"), we thought we'd get something like "The Wall-Crawler" or "The Web-Slinger" (okay, that's horrible) or even "Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" (which would be kind of awesome).

Anyway, the full press release with the official synopsis can be found below. Excelsior?

New York, February 5, 2013 ? Columbia Pictures announced today that filming has begun on The Amazing Spider-Man? 2 in New York. The film is the first in the history of the franchise that will be filmed entirely in New York City and New York State.

The sequel to last year?s critical and box office hit "The Amazing Spider-Man," the film stars Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Jamie Foxx, Shailene Woodley, Dane DeHaan, Colm Feore, Paul Giamatti and Sally Field.

In "The Amazing Spider-Man 2," for Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield), life is busy -- between taking out the bad guys as Spider-Man and spending time with the person he loves, Gwen (Emma Stone), high school graduation can't come quickly enough. Peter hasn't forgotten about the promise he made to Gwen's father to protect her by staying away -- but that's a promise he just can?t keep. Things will change for Peter when a new villain, Electro (Jamie Foxx), emerges, an old friend, Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan), returns, and Peter uncovers new clues about his past.

The film is directed by Marc Webb from a screenplay by Alex Kurtzman & Roberto Orci & Jeff Pinkner, with a previous draft by James Vanderbilt, and based on the Marvel Comic Book by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach are the producers.

The film's key behind-the-scenes team includes director of photography Dan Mindel, production designer Mark Friedberg, editors Pietro Scalia and Elliot Graham and costume designer Deborah L. Scott.

The latest chapter in the Spider-Man story is set for release in 3D on May 2, 2014.


Average-sized, slightly paunchy Paul Giamatti as the massive Rhino? That's a piece of casting I'd have never foreseen.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:34 PM

Titles for sequels SHOULD have been:
The Spectacular Spider-Man
The Web of Spider-Man
The Sensational Spider-Man
The Astonishing Spider-Man
etc. etc.

They're really missing a great opportunity here to use other adjectives for the sequels. Tacking on the "2" on the end is... sort of lame, especially being such a long title.

Also, I had heard/read rumors of Giamatti as Rhino, but interesting that it's now more or less confirmed. Two villains in the sequel? How could is possibly go wrong?!

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:57 AM

Hmmm... something about this article, I'm not sure what, makes me think the author didnt really care for the last film.


Nah, that's probably just in my head.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:16 AM

Now Cheets, I'm positive he was completely impartial!
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

I'm hoping this is good like the first installment.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

I thought the first one was up there with Batman Begins, so I'm excited.
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:38 AM

I didn't much care for the first one.

Peter Parker was a bunghole...and not the lovable kind.

I'll probably still see this one though.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:39 AM

Peter Parker was an bunghole in Amazing Fantasy #15 as well. Nothing lovable about it.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:46 AM

And by the end of that story (and the death of Uncle Ben) he learned to put the people he cares about ahead of his own desires.

Contrasted to the end of "The Amazing Spider-Man" where he blows off a dying father's request (that he promised to heed no less!) to stay away from his daughter which mark my words will wind up getting her killed.

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#10 Chris McFeely

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:03 AM

What I want is for the Rhino to literally just appear in the first scene, robbing a bank, and to get punched out by Spidey making his film-starting dramatic appearance. I have wanted this from a super-hero film for years. Show me a world where the fantastic is widespread - not one where it's so rare everyone has to have a two-hour origin. Rhino's a total mook who will never be able to carry a film as a solo villain. Dude's in a rhino suit, robs a bank, gets stopped, that's it - and then like two or three films from now when you want to do the Sinister Six, you've got a bit-part guy who can come back for that.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:14 AM

The Rhino and Electro. Truly, the most thrilling of villains to occupy movie space to.

What's the third movie going to be? The Vulture and El Toro Negro?

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:17 AM

Giamatti is awesome.

that is all
Woooo!

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:19 AM

I like the fact they're giving Spidey's lesser known rogue gallery a spin, but when you've got the budget of a summer blockbuster to play with...why not use villains that are visually dynamic and interesting? Not just a guy in a Rhino Suit.

I want a Mysterio movie!

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:34 AM

Being fair, while Spidey's got one of the best rogue's galleries in comics, a LOT of his baddies are grunt-level guys who aren't going to be able to pose enough of a threat to support a two-hour movie solo. Raimi already did the top three Spidey-baddies so this new series isn't going to be in a rush to revisit them, but unfortunately they're the guys most capable of carrying a film. They just about managed it with the Lizard, but really only because they intimately linked him with Peter by tying him into a retelling of the origin. After Goblin, Ock and Venom, Electro's fairly mookish, but I think he's got the power level necessary to be a decent threat (though it still feels like we can expect him to be secretly working for someone in this film). I think Mysterio probably IS the next-best choice for a solo picture-carrying villain, if his general silliness and theatricality can be surmounted, but where do you go after that? Kraven? Shocker? Vulture? These are not gripping.

(If I could have my way? Spider-Slayers and the Scorpion in one movie.)

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 8 2013, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Being fair, while Spidey's got one of the best rogue's galleries in comics, a LOT of his baddies are grunt-level guys who aren't going to be able to pose enough of a threat to support a two-hour movie solo. Raimi already did the top three Spidey-baddies so this new series isn't going to be in a rush to revisit them, but unfortunately they're the guys most capable of carrying a film. They just about managed it with the Lizard, but really only because they intimately linked him with Peter by tying him into a retelling of the origin. After Goblin, Ock and Venom, Electro's fairly mookish, but I think he's got the power level necessary to be a decent threat (though it still feels like we can expect him to be secretly working for someone in this film). I think Mysterio probably IS the next-best choice for a solo picture-carrying villain, if his general silliness and theatricality can be surmounted, but where do you go after that? Kraven? Shocker? Vulture? These are not gripping.

(If I could have my way? Spider-Slayers and the Scorpion in one movie.)


I agree that Electro may be a mook, but he's kinda like Sandman in that his powers make him visually interesting enough to work for a film especially if they go they Ultimate Route where powered up he looks like he's made of electricity rather then just wearing a silly suit. Mysterio is another good one for carrying a film with good special effects based powers that can up his threat level.

I've never been a really big fan of Kraven, but handled right I could see carrying a movie if handled right; sorta a spider-man "The Most Dangerous Game" type thing, though like the recent cartoons he might need an upgrade to make him a bigger threat. Kraven is the ultimate big game hunter who has gotten so good its no longer a challenge... but now there is a new thing showing up that could give him a challenge: Super Heroes. Or maybe he's hired as sorta a bounty hunter as Spider-man gets too close to truth in the conspiracy plot. He'd definitely need to be paired off with other villains for Spider-man to fight and Kraven interferes with the fight allowing them to get away and be a continued threat. Sorta like your Rhino idea from earlier, mook-level baddie shows up robs bank, causes havoc Spidey shows up to save the day, its a bit of a struggle but he get's the upper hand until he's blind sided by Kraven allowing the baddie to get away. Maybe even have Kraven realize he could use these guys a bait. Spidey ends up having to worry about some psycho-stalker who is smart enough to get around his spider-sense enough to be a threat.

Scorpion would also be pretty good for a movie, build him up as the anti-Spider-man having very similar powers but where Spidey has his webs, Scorpion has his tail and acid/Lasers/whatever they shove up there. Could pretty easily focus a film around that maybe dipping into dark doppleganger without having to get into Venom.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 08:41 AM

My idea for Kraven in a film in a pre-Amazing-Spidey-reboot world was to do him and the Lizard in a flick together. Mysterious reptile man sighted in New York, world-famous big game hunter makes catching it his newest challenge, runs afoul of Spider-Man who tries to protect his friend Connors from Kraven (maybe Aunt May is sick and Connors is needed to help treat her?), realizes Spidey is bigger game and goes after him - maybe do the Ultimate comics/Spectacular cartoon route of Kraven powering himself up with the same animal/human hybrid process that creates the Lizard for the final act throwdown. Fairly straightforward, intertwines the character's stories sensibly enough instead of just involving a random team-up (a la Spidey 3), no need for two prolonged "origin" storylines in one film (Lizard gets his, Kraven doesn't need one cause he's just a beefed-up celebrity).

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QUOTE(Database @ Feb 8 2013, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 8 2013, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Being fair, while Spidey's got one of the best rogue's galleries in comics, a LOT of his baddies are grunt-level guys who aren't going to be able to pose enough of a threat to support a two-hour movie solo. Raimi already did the top three Spidey-baddies so this new series isn't going to be in a rush to revisit them, but unfortunately they're the guys most capable of carrying a film. They just about managed it with the Lizard, but really only because they intimately linked him with Peter by tying him into a retelling of the origin. After Goblin, Ock and Venom, Electro's fairly mookish, but I think he's got the power level necessary to be a decent threat (though it still feels like we can expect him to be secretly working for someone in this film). I think Mysterio probably IS the next-best choice for a solo picture-carrying villain, if his general silliness and theatricality can be surmounted, but where do you go after that? Kraven? Shocker? Vulture? These are not gripping.

(If I could have my way? Spider-Slayers and the Scorpion in one movie.)


I agree that Electro may be a mook, but he's kinda like Sandman in that his powers make him visually interesting enough to work for a film especially if they go they Ultimate Route where powered up he looks like he's made of electricity rather then just wearing a silly suit. Mysterio is another good one for carrying a film with good special effects based powers that can up his threat level.

I've never been a really big fan of Kraven, but handled right I could see carrying a movie if handled right; sorta a spider-man "The Most Dangerous Game" type thing, though like the recent cartoons he might need an upgrade to make him a bigger threat. Kraven is the ultimate big game hunter who has gotten so good its no longer a challenge... but now there is a new thing showing up that could give him a challenge: Super Heroes. Or maybe he's hired as sorta a bounty hunter as Spider-man gets too close to truth in the conspiracy plot. He'd definitely need to be paired off with other villains for Spider-man to fight and Kraven interferes with the fight allowing them to get away and be a continued threat. Sorta like your Rhino idea from earlier, mook-level baddie shows up robs bank, causes havoc Spidey shows up to save the day, its a bit of a struggle but he get's the upper hand until he's blind sided by Kraven allowing the baddie to get away. Maybe even have Kraven realize he could use these guys a bait. Spidey ends up having to worry about some psycho-stalker who is smart enough to get around his spider-sense enough to be a threat.

Scorpion would also be pretty good for a movie, build him up as the anti-Spider-man having very similar powers but where Spidey has his webs, Scorpion has his tail and acid/Lasers/whatever they shove up there. Could pretty easily focus a film around that maybe dipping into dark doppleganger without having to get into Venom.


Movie poster is just green (with subtle dark green stripes?) and a scorpion in the middle stylized to look like spidey's symbol.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

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The Rhino and Electro. Truly, the most thrilling of villains to occupy movie space to.

What's the third movie going to be? The Vulture and El Toro Negro?


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 06:09 PM

My idea for a Kraven Movie would basically be Predator with a PG-13 rating. Kraven is a big game Hunter obsessed with only the most elusive and wily of prey. After wild animals lose their luster, Kraven heads to Afghanistan to work for the Taliban and Al Queda as a mercenary - specifically hunting down Special Forces operatives. There, he discovers a Daily Bugle article about the new web slinging super hero of New York City, and decides to hunt for better prey there.

No Super Powers. No Animal DNA infusions or quasi-mystical family history.

Just one bumbling Teenager who stumbled into Super Powers vs a Man who has spent his entire life honing his body into a weapon.


As for a Mysterio Movie - I envision a combination of Inception and Dark City style visuals. The ultimate mind screw where you question if what you actually see before you is real. Don't even bother giving Mysterio any sort of costume - or if he was given one, of a classical style tuxedo with a pillar of smoke where the head should be. He doesn't need a costume because as a master of illusion, you'll never see what he doesn't want you to see anyway.

It'd be a great "backdoor" for a Daredevil Reboot if Spidey has to seek out Daredevil to learn how to hone his other senses in order to beat Mysterio.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Feb 8 2013, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Rust @ Feb 8 2013, 05:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Rhino and Electro. Truly, the most thrilling of villains to occupy movie space to.

What's the third movie going to be? The Vulture and El Toro Negro?


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