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@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?


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#1 mx-01 archon

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:01 AM




For those of you out there who enjoy Monty Oum's slick, over-the-top anime-esque wire-fu choreography spectaculars, 2013's looking to be a real treat for the senses.

Seems to be aiming for a more dramatic/artistic feel than Rooster Teeth's Red vs. Blue web series. They're promising some story to go along with this, so it might not be just another Monty Oum self-indulgent fight-fest (as fun as those are).

Great sense of style to this trailer. The "superflat" artstyle, with the characters almost in silhouette, is gorgeous, and helps cover the roughness of the CG models (hey, not everyone can afford a Pixar-level supercomputer). Of course physics just flies out the window as Monty is wont to, but the girl does have a better sense of "weight" behind her movements than in some of his earlier works. The little lullaby-type melody they put together for this teaser is beautiful and haunting. Girl can sure hit some notes.



...and now I really want an action figure of "Red", complete with transforming scythe-rifle.


[edit]D'oh, wrong section

Edited by mx-01 archon, 08 November 2012 - 03:06 AM.


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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:47 AM

I like it! Stylish and slick, although for a second i thought the girl was vincent valentine.

This will hopefully be good. And guns that transform into melee weapons awesome!

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:24 AM

Very cool video. The scythe action reminded me of Ninja Gaiden.

Moving to General.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

Nice and the concept behind the scythe-rifle is actually pretty solid. If you break physics for it to work that is. Be interested to see where they go with this now that RvB animated isn't gonna go on.

Ironbite-more's the pity with that.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:15 AM

I've been watching that trailer over and over again since late Monday night. That song is stuck in my head now, and you're right, it is rather haunting. (and I like it!) Ruby's (Monty named her in the Drunk Tank Podcast yesterday) character design is fantastic! Loving the Scythe Rifle so very much and I cant wait to see what the other three ladies look like and who they are!

R - Ruby = Little Red Ridding Hood
W - ??? = Snow White?
B - ??? = Beauty and the Beast or Sleeping Beauty?
Y - ??? = Goldilocks?

Theory going around is that they are all based on the Brothers Grimm Fairy-tales. Cant wait to see just what Monty comes up with.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

I'm planning on watching it. Should be fun.

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#7 mx-01 archon

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE(Ironbite @ Nov 8 2012, 06:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice and the concept behind the scythe-rifle is actually pretty solid. If you break physics for it to work that is.


Obviously Ruby is Dante's daughter, for her to take those improbable shots, and for the massive recoil on that rifle to not tear her arms off every time she fires it unbraced (love how in the opening barrage she actually plants the pointy end in the ground as a makeshift monopod).

Not that it's likely that a .50cal generates that much recoil in the first place, and bullet jumping is purely within the realm of fantasy.

But that's what suspension of disbelief is for icon-waspy.gif.


The important part is that the concept makes you believe that it works, on which I think this is Monty's best work to date in that regard. In a lot of his previous videos (especially Dead Fantasy), the power levels of the characters would fluctuate wildly so that the characters could show off, but then be presented on fairly even grounds so that they all get their turns. There was little consistency with how strong an attack or power could be at any given moment, as long as it aided in extending the action.

Here, though, as I mentioned earlier, Ruby seems to move with a more grounded sense of "weight", and the mechanics of her weapon seem to work on a fairly consistent basis. As a result, there's a very visceral sense of "rhythm" to her movements, which really clicks, giving you a mechanical setting that while not realistic, is "believable" within its own confines. I certainly hope that feeling continues through to the full series, because it ups the already incredible fight choreography that Monty is known for to a whole other level. And if the series' writing is good enough to sell you on the characters, then all the better.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:44 PM

I've enjoyed Monty's previous works, and seeing how much he's improved in this trailer alone is pretty incredible. The setting, the aesthetics, the fluidity, the music... just amazing.

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Nov 8 2012, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...and now I really want an action figure of "Red", complete with transforming scythe-rifle.

Let's hope this becomes popular enough that Max Factory decides to extend an offer, then. icon-fire.gif

#9 mx-01 archon

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE(Demovere Xeno @ Nov 8 2012, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Nov 8 2012, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...and now I really want an action figure of "Red", complete with transforming scythe-rifle.

Let's hope this becomes popular enough that Max Factory decides to extend an offer, then. icon-fire.gif


One can only hope. They're the company that gave the world Figma Billy Herrington, after all.

Not to mention the massive merchandising campaign that followed Black Rock Shooter's creation. Somebody just needs to post these vids to NicoNico...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:00 PM

they had me at

Pump action shotgun scythe

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Nov 9 2012, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they had me at

Pump action shotgun scythe



Ditto.

I await trailers for the other 3 girls.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:49 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Nov 8 2012, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they had me at

Pump action shotgun scythe


Shotgun Scythe that fires 50 cal rounds! Can't wait to see the other 3 girls, and to find out who they are and what they're capable of.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:32 PM

Isn't it bolt action, rather than pump action?

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Nov 9 2012, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't it bolt action, rather than pump action?


I think so, yeah. It has the handle thing on the side that she pulls back and turns upward before turning it back down and in again.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:11 PM

It occurs to me that if they're planning on getting all these characters together for a cohesive storyline, rather than just a bunch of solo vignettes, realistically Ruby here'd be a horrible teammate to have in close-quarters friendly-fire scenarios. Or even if she has to fight in populated areas.

Whenever she uses that recoil trick to boost her cutting power, there's a bullet coming out the end of that thing that's gonna ruin someone's day. Having to closely measure the angle of her scythe sweeps seems incredibly burdensome.


Of course, being a Monty Oum production, it's just another excuse for more improbable combat gymnastics, and it'll look glorious.

Edited by mx-01 archon, 09 November 2012 - 02:12 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:00 PM

OMG! I was thinking about that last night! Like, you know how in just about EVERY group fight, they have that moment when they're back to back? How would that work with her weapon? I mean, sure she could turn it back into a Rifle/Shotgun and just shoot the enemy, but that's not nearly as flashy as the Scythe. (and we all know Monty LOVES his flashy, over the top fight scenes)

It'll be fun to see how Monty handle that. Plus like you said, a populated area would be problematic and collateral damage would be almost unavoidable.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE(Airachnid @ Nov 9 2012, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Nov 9 2012, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't it bolt action, rather than pump action?


I think so, yeah. It has the handle thing on the side that she pulls back and turns upward before turning it back down and in again.

The spent cartridges also appear to be some variety of high-powered rifle ammunition, not shotgun shells. (Shotgun shells aren't bottlenecked, for starts.)

I confess to being kinda mystified by the bolt action mechanism. It's a weird detail, and one I find kind of jarring. A pump seems like it would be more sensible (by virtue of being easier to use), and an autoloader would be infinitely more practical on this completely preposterous, totally made-up origami weapon.

Otherwise, it looks interesting, in an empty-headed, eye-candy sort of way. Rather like a lot of anime, honestly.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE(Canthros @ Nov 9 2012, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I confess to being kinda mystified by the bolt action mechanism. It's a weird detail, and one I find kind of jarring. A pump seems like it would be more sensible (by virtue of being easier to use), and an autoloader would be infinitely more practical on this completely preposterous, totally made-up origami weapon.


*ahem*

It could also turn out that this is set in some sort-of Steampunk fantasy world where automatic weapons don't exist yet, for all we know.

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Otherwise, it looks interesting, in an empty-headed, eye-candy sort of way. Rather like a lot of anime, honestly.


I'd rather not make that sort of judgement call without seeing any hint of the story they've got planned around this thing.

Also, we've gotta do something about your choices in anime icon-waspy.gif.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:32 PM

Watching the trailer again, I got the impression that the second clip contains significantly more powerful rounds compared to the first clip. The blasts she fires after switching become larger and are black instead of white, the force behind said blasts is increased, and the clip itself is marked with a symbol while the first isn't.

Or I may be overanalyzing the Crazy Over-The-Top Fight Scene Trailer. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE(Demovere Xeno @ Nov 9 2012, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or I may be overanalyzing the Crazy Over-The-Top Fight Scene Trailer. icon-fire.gif


Join the club. Can't stop analyzing cause I can't stop watching it.

It's also kinda refreshing that Monty's toned down his usual fanservice angle, at least for this segment (given that the focal character is explicitly a younger girl. Who's to say what happens with the interpretation of "the fairest of them all", Snow White, or the other two?). Not to say that Ruby doesn't have her own brand of sexiness, but it's in the form of a demure, understated coquettishness laced with a confident professionalism, rather than skimpy outfits and the outright flirtatiousness of his previous videos. It goes a long way in presenting this project as something beyond his casual "exploitation" pieces, something more artistically "legitimate".



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