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@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.


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#81 Sockie

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:43 PM

Coulson should become Paste Pot Pete.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 15 2013, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2013, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's a somewhat propagandistic "It's okay to do terrible things for the greater good" tone to this. I don't like it.


Where are you getting that from?

I mean, you're probably not wrong about the final product, "Avengers" proved that SHIELD is willing to do bad for good.

But I don't see any hint of that in the trailer. Arguably the worst thing they do is black-bag the "not a team player" hacker (who has managed to annoy me already with one line).

They are performing what appears to be an unlawful arrest via the tried and true "put a hood over their head" method and force the person to work with them.
(Look at the situation presented in the trailer: She stumbles upon information by chance, feels the need to warn the world and is snatched up for it)
If you look at it in a real world context, that's a pretty damn chilling thing.


Certainly, they portray it in a soft no-harm-is-done way - But that's what makes it propagandistic.


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#83 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2013, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(Look at the situation presented in the trailer: She stumbles upon information by chance, feels the need to warn the world and is snatched up for it)


I see what you're saying. I'm just making the assumption (possibly incorrect) that what she knows about SHIELD, coupled with the fact that her character is described as a hacker, indicates she got her information by illegal means, and that's what puts SHIELD onto her and gives them the leverage to draft her.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 14 2013, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2013, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(Look at the situation presented in the trailer: She stumbles upon information by chance, feels the need to warn the world and is snatched up for it)


I see what you're saying. I'm just making the assumption (possibly incorrect) that what she knows about SHIELD, coupled with the fact that her character is described as a hacker, indicates she got her information by illegal means, and that's what puts SHIELD onto her and gives them the leverage to draft her.

That scene needs 100% more Anthony Anderson calling her a criminal.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:25 PM

I'm also hoping the line "Other organizations out there interested" means we might see A.I.M., Hydra, and heck...let's go crazy and throw the Secret Empire into the mix as well.

Or even Project: Pegasus.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:28 PM

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#87 Jenny

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:35 PM

I want some of the top leaders to turn out to be Skrulls.

 

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ May 14 2013, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or even Project: Pegasus.


Project Pegasus got eaten in the first bit of Avengers


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Why stick as high-level an agent as Coulson on non-classified stuff?


I think classified as in categorized, not privatized.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2013, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 15 2013, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Creature SH @ May 14 2013, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's a somewhat propagandistic "It's okay to do terrible things for the greater good" tone to this. I don't like it.


Where are you getting that from?

I mean, you're probably not wrong about the final product, "Avengers" proved that SHIELD is willing to do bad for good.

But I don't see any hint of that in the trailer. Arguably the worst thing they do is black-bag the "not a team player" hacker (who has managed to annoy me already with one line).

They are performing what appears to be an unlawful arrest via the tried and true "put a hood over their head" method and force the person to work with them.
(Look at the situation presented in the trailer: She stumbles upon information by chance, feels the need to warn the world and is snatched up for it)
If you look at it in a real world context, that's a pretty damn chilling thing.


Certainly, they portray it in a soft no-harm-is-done way - But that's what makes it propagandistic.


For all we know, she had a pirate broadcast to get her message out; or she might have been broadcasting stolen secrets or other classified information.

Black bag on head a typical spy thing so she doesn't, you know, find out where the secret base is at.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:24 PM

You can't just throw around a word like "propaganda" when there's nothing to propagandize.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:29 PM

As much as I'd love to help write a 28 page term paper on media's role in propaganda production-

SUPER PEOPLE.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE(NICKSAUR @ May 14 2013, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As much as I'd love to help write a 28 page term paper on media's role in propaganda production-

SUPER PEOPLE.


That's the same attitude people had about "No Ordinary Family", and look how that show's manifesto infected the populace.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 12:03 AM

Mediocre ratings and early cancellation?
Reclaim the suffix.

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"What does that mean to you?" "That someone really wanted our initials to spell out SHIELD"


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:39 PM

Article talking with Jeffery Bell, the non-whedon Exec producer,
http://www.comicbook...rticle&id=45510

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The executive producer went on to say that the character may "not necessarily" be familiar to those who read Marvel comics.


I feel this strengthens my Josiah X theory!

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

Honestly, this part makes me think I'm right about it being character who isn't even black in the comics.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ May 15 2013, 05:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can't just throw around a word like "propaganda" when there's nothing to propagandize.


What I mean is that it facilitates an atmosphere that is more forgiving to government-mandated human rights violations.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 15 2013, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, this part makes me think I'm right about it being character who isn't even black in the comics.

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Honestly, we were looking for this part, and we just said, look, all our parts are open to all diversity. So the fact that we have a black dude who is awesome and it's J, was just because he was the best actor.



I interpret it more that had it been a white guy, that'd be ok, but woo, black guy!

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ May 15 2013, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, this part makes me think I'm right about it being character who isn't even black in the comics.

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Honestly, we were looking for this part, and we just said, look, all our parts are open to all diversity. So the fact that we have a black dude who is awesome and it's J, was just because he was the best actor.


This just makes me think it's a totally original character. Which would piss me off slightly, but considering all of the actual SHIELD are original characters, it doesn't really surprise me.

#100 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE(Lizard King @ May 15 2013, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This just makes me think it's a totally original character. Which would piss me off slightly, but considering all of the actual SHIELD are original characters, it doesn't really surprise me.


I don't know, the "all our parts are open to all diversity" seems to me like they're saying "don't freak out of Speedball ends up being Filipino". If it was an original character, there'd be no reason to even mention that, because how would we know or care whether some completely new character changed ethnicity between script and casting?

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