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@  Rycochet : (07 May 2021 - 05:10 PM)

Surprised we didn't get a full size retool from the monsterbot mold. I'd rather have a CW Ironhide retool though, we need a van Wilder.

@  tigerhawk : (07 May 2021 - 04:19 PM)

I just noticed Wilder was the only omission from Takara Legends.

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 06:01 AM)

Even more weirdly, it was the early shift where some people had their regular day off for the week, while the late shift was supposed to have full attendance (not counting sick days, vacations and overtime reduction).

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 01:15 AM)

The weirdest part was that there was a steady influx of voters during the early shift, while hardly anyone showed up during the late shift.

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 01:14 AM)

Wow, that was a long day. But it's over, and I finally got some sleep. Not particularly happy with the outcome, but then again, my candidates both admit they didn't really campaign that much.

@  Echowarrior : (06 May 2021 - 08:56 PM)

Best of luck, Nevermore.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 May 2021 - 10:18 AM)

Best of luck man.

@  electricidad : (05 May 2021 - 03:22 PM)

GOOD LUCK, NEVERMORE!

@  Nevermore : (05 May 2021 - 03:14 PM)

The election committee whose chairman I am has been preparing this election since February. There's no real gain for me either way, so I don't care that much for the outcome, but it's going to be a stressful day for me either way.

@  Nevermore : (05 May 2021 - 03:13 PM)

Wish me luck. Tomorrow is this year's supervisory board election at my workplace, and I'm the guy in charge of organizing the election.

@  tigerhawk : (05 May 2021 - 01:30 PM)

I have two Overlords one was faulty with a melted foot and they never took it back but replaced it, I just checked the guns, both the handles seem to be turning white.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 May 2021 - 07:38 PM)

REVELATION! Towering war machines more durable than nerd!

@  Telly : (04 May 2021 - 07:18 PM)

pansy. my trypticon AND scorponok took a header from 4 feet up and only had parts pop off that were easily reattached. guess 'cons are tougher...

@  tigerhawk : (04 May 2021 - 04:03 PM)

My TR Perceptor fell and the titan master peg in the leg snapped off. Fortunately I have the Legends one.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 May 2021 - 08:50 PM)

It's a fairly well known fact that "it's a wonderful life" only became popular after it dropped into the public domain. So, yeah, they probably did.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (02 May 2021 - 08:29 PM)

I read an interesting observation on Twitter. If it is the natural course of a human to grow into Grandpa Abe yelling at a cloud, but nostalgia also yields rose-tinted glasses for the likes of one's youth, then did Greatest Generation adults bemoan how Baby Boomer children loved box office flops such as The Wizard of Oz and It's a Wonderful Life?

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 May 2021 - 09:54 AM)

You’re traveling down a rabbit hole I dare not follow

@  Otaku : (02 May 2021 - 09:26 AM)

At the same time, with my almost non-existent knowledge of Japanese and how oddly some things translate, seeing "Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges" made me wonder if that would make it "JoJoJo"... which now has my brain terrified of a weird Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo/Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Crossover. @[email protected]

@  Otaku : (02 May 2021 - 09:24 AM)

It is always weird when things align.  This talk of Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges in the SquawkBox reminded me of King Gorgeous Gorge on the FoxBox.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 May 2021 - 08:52 PM)

Nice

@  Nevermore : (01 May 2021 - 09:03 AM)

I got one even better: After that character by the name of Gorgeous Giorgios dies in a gorge, they name that whole area after him: The Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges.

@  tigerhawk : (30 April 2021 - 01:56 AM)

Paint apps did slide notably during TR, wave one's Titan Masters had detail but wave 2 onwards was absent of them. Wave 5's Ramhorn, Dreadnaut, Scorchfire and Aimless had detail but Murk and Hazard didn't, can't speak for Flameout as I got Legends Twintwist and Slugslinger.

@  kizudarake : (29 April 2021 - 04:50 PM)

Anyone here got any g1 jet fire parts for sale?

@  wonko the sane? : (29 April 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Other than a few overly tight joints, the paints apps are my single complaint about the generations line.

@  tigerhawk : (29 April 2021 - 02:25 PM)

I just saw Legends Leo Prime now I wish Titans Return Alpha Trion had a few more paint apps for ship mode.

@  walruslaw : (28 April 2021 - 09:33 PM)

dagrimbo

@  CORVUS : (27 April 2021 - 08:11 PM)

Indeed.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 April 2021 - 04:59 PM)

CORVUS: considering that reply, I'm pretty sure this was just another instance of Bass posting poorly-defined drivel as if it were profound.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2021 - 04:24 PM)

Given the last year and a half or so, is it any surprise?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2021 - 04:12 PM)

People are snapping already it seems.

@  Kaon : (27 April 2021 - 12:15 PM)

I like the Shattered Glass Megatron's alt mode

@  CORVUS : (26 April 2021 - 07:30 PM)

I'd like to know what society he's talking about, and what qualifies as "nothing", TBH.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 April 2021 - 05:09 PM)

I don't see the point in such a poorly defined "everyone is terrible" statement. He's not complaining about any specific people or specific problems.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 April 2021 - 05:06 PM)

I do not see anything about Bass's comment that felt a need for you to attack him.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 April 2021 - 04:35 PM)

Bass: does that "everyone" include yourself or are you just trying to act like you're better than everybody without actually proving anything?

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2021 - 04:10 PM)

Mostly it's "oh, don't say that right now" and "better learn when to duck".

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2021 - 04:05 PM)

There's something to be said about society when everyones just an inch away from snapping over nothing.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 April 2021 - 02:17 PM)

WalMart is a cruel mistress. Today she runneth over...tommorrow, she'll be barren as a desert.

@  -LittleAutob... : (26 April 2021 - 12:21 PM)

I love Wal-mart now- They have way more Transformers figures than Target- last night I came home with a WFC Authentic Wheeljack even though I was torn between wanting TFP Arcee and TF: The Movie Blurr, two figures I have never ever seen before-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 April 2021 - 10:29 AM)

Spelling intended lol

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 April 2021 - 10:29 AM)

Curious Geogore

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 April 2021 - 07:54 AM)

"My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me Giorgio"

@  MEDdMI : (25 April 2021 - 07:52 AM)

New JoJo villain, GoGio

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2021 - 07:52 AM)

Is this a Jojo?

@  Nevermore : (25 April 2021 - 06:49 AM)

Now I suddenly have a character with the name "Gorgeous Georgios" in mind.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 April 2021 - 04:00 PM)

H A -

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2021 - 01:58 PM)

Saint Georgios Day?

@  Donocropolis : (23 April 2021 - 06:59 AM)

more like Saint GORGEOUS Day.

@  tigerhawk : (23 April 2021 - 04:59 AM)

Saint Georges Day.

@  Sabrblade : (21 April 2021 - 11:55 PM)

Glenn Morshower would agree. He goes to auditions with his shoes full of syrup.


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#2981 Nevermore

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Posted 22 July 2019 - 07:49 PM

So, episode 6. (Yeah, I know, I'm still behind.)

MUCH better. At first I wasn't too hot on an episode set primarily in another mind prison, but the fact that Fitz and Simmons were (mostly) lucid helped, and in the end this was exactly the episode their relationship needed at this point. All this tension built up over the past few seasons, all those loose threads like Astronaut Guy (who, despite what Fitz implies, wasn't actually Hive back when Simmons spent time on Maveth), Leopold/The Doctor, Fitz's brain injury and Simmons' away mission in early season 2, their pre-show relationship, all the crap the writers threw at them, all of that is untangled in a very beautiful and at the same time very organic way. These two would have never found the courage to just talk all these things out in the real world, but this mental connection they shared in this episode brought it all to the front, and boy, was that a ride.

The ending with Doctor Leopold and Undead Simmons making out was predictable (I mean, as Fitz himself put it, they represent the "Id" parts of their personalities, so really, the only thing that kinda surprised me was how long they were circling around the containment box and even having a brief conversation instead of immediately jumping each other hot steamy style), but everything pretty much worked flawessly here. Really, this was an absolutely worthy reunion episode.


The only thing that was poorly timed was the final postscript scene. Don't get me wrong - I'm totally on board with undercutting Mack's stupid "dramatic reveal" by having Daisy guess the twist early (I mean, it's a "duh" moment for the audience too), but such a subverted cliché moment would work better in the middle of an episode, not at the very end. It kinda ruins the moment, as Mack correctly points out.

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Posted 28 July 2019 - 06:56 PM

Episode 7.

Sigh.

It's one of the stupid episodes again. The title kinda says it all...


- So Fitz, Simmons and Enoch end up back on Kitson. And for a super-advanced living computer, Enoch is extremely slow on the uptake all the time. This is bad comedy.
- Sarge is really an idiot, and an a-hole just fore the sake of it. Assuming he really has "noble" intentions (in the broadest sense), what does he gain by playing his game? Wouldn't putting all his information on the table help him speed things up considerably? Unfortunately, the show is playing by "Lost" rules: Characters acting all ominous and deliberately withholding information from other characters (and by proxy, the audience) is meant to create "suspense". I bet when we finally learn what he knows and doesn't tell, it will be another "Why didn't you just say so?" moment.
- I still have to cringe whenever (supposed) bad guys are incarcerated in a prison within the same compound as the main base of the heroes. That's just an invitation for disaster. And then Agent Khan goes into Jaco's cell all by himself, no backup, nothing. And sure enough, Jaco plays the old "prisoner isn't moving" trick. I guess Agent Khan never watched a movie. And then Jaco breathes fire, and this highly trained agent takes ages to call for backup.
- Did I mention yet that I don't care for this whole space arc? Get these guys off Kitson and back to Earth already. I don't care for all these human-looking aliens at all. ... Oh wait. That "Izel" lady is going to turn out to be that mysterious leader of the Shrike, isn't she?
- So they're apprehending two Shrike-infested humans that were headed towards each other... and their best idea is to put them on the same plane, and bring them to their base? At this point SHIELD is driving around in cars with very obvious SHIELD markings in plain public again. Are you going to tell me they still only have one facility? How about, like, a new super-prison like the Sandbox from season 1? Something that's actually equipped to contain dangerous super-beings and doesn't pose a constant risk for SHIELD's very nerve center?
- Also, Mack didn't pick up Sarge's very obvious sarcastic undertone when he told him they had caught two of the Shrike?
- Can't they just drop that stupid module from the plane? Blow it up with napalm or something? No? Oh wait. These things are super-unkillable. And yet totally helpless against cold. Wait.
- That armed SHIELD agent who gets killed after Yo-Yo opens the module door (WHYYYYYYY??????) appears to be mostly brain-dead. Yo-yo explicitly tells him to fire BEFORE she opens the door, then she has to tell him AGAIN when the Shrike start sprouting blades. Then he fires two shots... and then just keeps staring again in disbelief. Did that moron win his SHIELD membership in the lottery or what? This is not even remotely a believable trained solider. Also, Yo-Yo, YOU HAVE SUPER-SPEED! USE IT! Good thing the Shrike are moving in slow motion...
- If it's that cold to insta-freeze the Shrike, why don't Yo-Yo and Agent whatsherface instantly freeze to death as well?
- Also, why do Sarge and his gang bother with these knives? Why not just use liquid nitrogen all the time and call it a day?
- They already saved the plane, Sarge just gave away his only trump, so why exactly does Mack feel the need to uphold his end of the deal? "Scout's honor"? Or did he just realize the writers made him a terrible, incompetent leader for the sake of forced drama?
- So basically all aliens know about Earth and where it is located. Despite humanity only having like two or three ships that are deep space worthy. Suuuure.

Seriously... What a bunch of idiots all around. It's like, we have this supposedly super-capable organization of super-spies, and they're acting like a bunch of noobs with no sense of tactics, strategy or even just plain common sense.

As I said before, I recall the occasional instance of stupid in previous seasons, but nothing even remotely as genre-blind as what is on display this season. It's just bad writing.


Of the original 6 Avengers, it wouldn't surprise me if only Tony doesn't know. Thor's too used to Loki's lies to be fooled by Sif, Cap and Nat would have read it in the SHIELD files, Clint and Hulk, I dunno, probably just saw him on the news or something. Even Pepper probably speaks to him every other week.


It just occurred to me. Wouldn't Black Widow releasing all of SHIELD's secrets to the public mean the public knows ever since Winter Soldier that Coulson is alive, as well?

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 07:08 AM

Looks like season 7 will wrap up shooting before the final episode of season 6 airs.

 

 


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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:20 AM

Can someone please put Yo-Yo in the bin?



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Posted 03 August 2019 - 09:09 PM

So... more time travel.

I'll admit I mostly watched this season out of habit more than anything. And I'll likely do the same for the final one. But that show unfortunately ran for too long. Should have ended with season 5 with May and Coulson riding in the sunset.

But hey,
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 10:13 PM

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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 10:32 PM

I wonder if the Season 7 finale will end with SHIELD finally ACTUALLY being in the movie timeline, with everything since S3 being an alternate timeline created by the Monoliths or somesuch.  For instance, while Thanos did make a strike on New York City during the Graviton crisis, he had no Infinity Stones in the SHIELD timeline.

 

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 05:11 PM

Episode 8, "Collision Course, Part 1".

MUCH better. Finally, the characters start using their brains again (for the most part, anyway). Mack is suddenly making all sorts of smart tactical decisions again. Not blindly trusting Sarge, saying he "isn't fluent in vague" (that's kinda meta), insisting on his terms as opposed to Sarge's. And hey, Yo-Yo even remembers she has super-speed! It's almost as if this episode was written by better writers than most of the others (save for "Inescapable")..

So I was right about Izel being that mysterious creator of the Shrike. Surprise, surprise. Sarge certainly isn't entirely upfront about her motives, though - like, if her whole deal is destryoing all life, why didn't she destroy planet Kitson while she was on it? Why target far away Earth instead? There's more to her story, and it has to do with the monoliths.

How did ancient Incas know about Izel again? Was she on Earth before, or what? (Also, Benson is interacting with them offscreen. The actor was unavailable, right? Talk about a "phoned in" contribution.)

Why did they leave only one guard to watch Jaco AND Pax?

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:08 PM

Episode 9, "Collision Course, Part 2".

Another solid episode. No major idiot moments (phew!), just a few instances of characters being slow on the uptake due to dramatic editing:
- When Sarge, Pax and Jaco take over the bridge, these highly-trained SHIELD soldiers sure take their time to react, especially that agent who gets shot as a direct result of hesitating too long before shooting her gun.
- When May opens the truck's door, it takes her an awfully long time to realized the Shrike are coming for that door.
- When scouting that ship, Mack is the first to come around the corner, his gun trained, staring straight into the corridor... and it's only when Jaco comes around the corner that he realizes there's a crewmember walking towards them. Did Mack not see that guy?

Nothing much to say besides that, except the mystery regarding Sarge and his missing memories is vaguely intriguing.

"May" shooting Sarge at the end sure is a ruse. I'm fairly certain Davis never returned from that ship, at least not as himself. He and Jaco split up when they went to confront Izel, and it was "Davis" who claimed she was gone. Pretty sure she either took over his body somehow, or she's a shape-shifter, which would explain "May".

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 05:03 PM

Okay, so after a few kinda, sorta good episodes with characters that weren't constantly finding new ways to be stupid, the season finale left me with some mixed feelings.

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May I also point out how tired I am of characters (Daisy, Simmons, to a lesser degree Fitz) constantly being given new hairstyles for each new season? I mean, it works occasionally, but at this point it has become a joke. What was up with those odd purple strands in Daisy's hair this season?

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 05:53 PM

What was up with those odd purple strands in Daisy's hair this season?


It's to tie into her Marvel Rising look, which Chloe Bennett voices.

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Also because Asian women can't not have some color in their hair in cartoons and comics.
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Posted 03 September 2019 - 07:29 AM

That's a very odd tie-in.

Also:

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:02 AM

That's a very odd tie-in.

 

It's just a case of brand consistency, making two versions of the same character (even played by the same actress) have something in common with each other, visually.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 14 June 2020 - 04:55 PM

So. Season 7, episodes 1 and 2. Haven't seen episode 3 yet.

 

 

Thus far it's not as cringeworthy as season 6 was at times, but there are still some annoying tropes I really wish writers could let go of already. Seen them a gajillion times, you're not making them any more original. Most notably, the "characters hiding from evil folks who are looking for them, and have to desperately avoid making any sounds" cliché. Obviously with a loooot of stuff going on that's just going to cause sounds. Because TENSION.

 

Also... they couldn't deal with the Chroni-cops right there, away from the guy they were after, because...? Daisy with her powers, Yo-Yo with her powers (mind you, she only "froze" as they were already hiding from those crooks), they couldn't take down three of these stooges? They already managed to defeat one. Use an ambush, something...? No, I guess hiding works too. After all, there wouldn't be a story if they won the battle right there.

 

I'm not sure how to feel about the way they address the racism back in the day. They just keep making brief allusions, but at the same time, a lot of the "important" characters don't really seem to have that much of a problem with Mack. It's like they know they have to address the issue somehow, but at the same time want to keep it "family-friendly" so as to not make parts of their audience feel really uncomfortable, and not make the characters seem unlikable because they just happen to be as racist as a lot of people used to be back then. It feels kinda fluff. Even Agent Carter at least had a mobster say "A black scientist. Now I done seen everything." It's almost as if the writers had no idea how to write people as being racist because they only knew racism out of history books. It's like the theme park version of historic racism.

 

 

They even address the purple strands in Daisy's hair as making her look kinda conspicuous in 1931. Cute. Though why doesn't she change out of her evening gown once they get back to the Zephyr at the end of episode 2? I guess from a production standpoint, they want to keep Chloe Bennet in that outft for as long as possible, but in-story, why isn't she changing into something more comfortable? Also, Elena mentions she "ran in high heels", so why didn't they pick period outfits with more comfortable shoes? Especially when they already knew that they had to hurry?

 

 

Thinking about it... if the Chroni-Cops always intended to kill little Freddie, then why the hell did they pick that big FDR fundraiser event as the stage for their attempt on his life? Again, I know that from a strytelling standpoint, that provides a red herring for our agents, but in-story, why go through such an elaborate ruse? There aren't any easier opportunities to kill him without all the extra attention? And why do they abandon that plan when he survives at the end of episode 2? Why not take out all the key players in Hydra, one by one? They say "The time window is closing", but what does that mean? They'll be stranded in that period? Big deal, they're robots, they have all the time they want, just get on with the plan. But no, the script asks for a new plot point, so better abandon the plan instead of adjusting it again like they did before.

 

 

Really, a lot of this is very contrived and forced, to make the plot ("Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. visit several periods in time") work, but I can't help but think there should be better ways to do it. I mean, the sudden "The time window is closing in 17 minutes!" thing literally came out of nowhere, it's like they intentionally inserted a plot contrivance in the most blatant way possible.

 

 

Am I imagining this, or were seasons 1, 2 and even 3 less... haphazard and contrived?


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Posted 14 June 2020 - 06:45 PM

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 06:30 AM

Many of the characters seem awkwardly incompetent for being such super-awesome, super-experienced super-agents. Like, I get how Deke would still be a little dense, but when Daisy tells him "Freddy is dangerous" and he says "He's just in a rough spot", she should cut to the chase and tell him right away. Instead, she skirts around the issue and tries to "convince" him instead of immediately telling him who he is (which she does a few moments later anyways, so thanks for the padding).

 

Also, Hydra is the only threat SHIELD ever faced? Seriously? All the other stuff that happened, the formation of the Avengers, the Battle of New York and whatnot, and she's all making this about "Hydra bad, kill him and let's take an unpredictable risk when we already know the outcome of the original course of history"?


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Posted 15 June 2020 - 12:15 PM

Hydra being the major antagonistic force outside of straight up Nazis would be the major reason SHIELD forms in the first place both as a focus of what to prevent while unbeknownst infiltrated by them from the beginning. Its not hard to see why they went this direction. That said Hydra needing to be involved in every situation is frustrating.

But sadly other organizations like AIM and the Ten Rings are more likely tied up in the larger movie MCU and not allowed more than a name drop most likely.

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 12:32 PM

Plus, Coulson straight up warned Daisy that if the U.S. branch of Hydra doesn't form then something else worse could have risen up in the shadows to take its place (both Leviathan and the Secret Empire were around during Agent Carter, so either of them could have come to power in Hydra's stead). Daisy ignored this warning from Coulson because she wasn't thinking about the severity of any of those other threats since she'd had the most experience fighting Hydra more than anything else. And in the next episode, Mack calls her out on her stupidity and for trying to circumvent his authority.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#2999 Nevermore

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 04:15 PM

It's still a massively stupid decision for her character to make. I'd see season 1 "Skye" do that, maybe even early season 4 Quake, but season 7 Daisy, with all her experience and routine? Seriously?

 

Also, and I just realized - that's a lot of weird revisionist history for both organizations right there.

 

 

I mean, how large was Hydra's US division really prior to the end of Agent Carter season 1? Are we going by SHIELD season 3's "Hydra has existed for centuries" retcon? In that case, Hydra won't need to "rise", it's already there. Or are we going by First Avenger/Winter Soldier canon, in which case Hydra may have had a few agents in the US during World War II, but was mostly just the "science division" of the Nazis and didn't become a huge force in the US until Arnim Zola started his schemes following his arrest. Man, this stuff is weird. And stupid.

 

And what about the formation of SHIELD? They weren't formed "because of the threat of Hydra". If anything, the SSR was. SHIELD was formed after the end of World War II. Officially, Hydra was defeanted by that point. Secretly, what remained of Hydra helped form SHIELD from day 1. But it was never a direct response to Hydra as an opponent.


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Posted 20 June 2020 - 10:00 AM

I don't know. We're having fun with this season.

 

AoS has always been caught in the middle in trying to avoid actively contradicting the MCU. This season was already a bonus. I like that they're playing with tropes and styles a bit, and a Quantum Leap like season is a good way to play within the limits imposed by the greater universe.

 

They have always used Daisy strangely. I guess the excuse for the absence of her powers mostly this season is that she is seldom able to wear her bracers to protect herself.


 
 
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