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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 10:13 AM

Judging by the trailers, it's less they're ignoring half the population getting Thanos'd and more going how various alternate Earths have been getting Coulson'd.



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 11:44 AM

I hope so.  This show's connection to the greater MCU, tenuous though it may be, is really the only thing that keeps me interested in it.



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Posted 12 May 2019 - 12:01 AM

At least episode one dashed any vain hopes I may have clung to...



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Posted 12 May 2019 - 12:07 AM

Mad Max, meet...

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 12:19 AM

At least episode one dashed any vain hopes I may have clung to...

 

The professor referred to his loved one having passed away in what kinda sounded like a relatively recent point in time. That could possibly be a subtle nod to The Vanished without mentioning it outright to avoid confusion with any TV viewers who haven't kept up with the films.


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Posted 12 May 2019 - 01:31 PM

Other than that possibility its not really showing any sort of sign that anybody got snapped. I mean just as unlikely as all 6 original Avengers avoiding it and Petes entire set of classmates getting snapped its really unlikely that none of the Shield tv members had any casualties in the main or support staff if following the IW events. And they havent made it seem like more than a years gone by so this seems like the major divorcing part of the tv and cinematic universes for sure.

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 04:07 PM


The folks behind the show have flat out said they are just ignoring the whole snap thing. Or pretending their season happens before it even though that is pretty much flat out impossible. Apparently they didn't have firm details on what the MCUs plans were exactly and felt they had their own story to tell that took priority so they're just gonna act like nothing happened and continue with their own deal.

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 08:31 PM

Good on them, as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted 13 May 2019 - 08:02 AM

They have an easy way out.  The Shield guys just ended up in an alternate timeline when they returned to the present, and they did flat out mention their timeline was changed.  Maybe in the one they ended up in Thanos was stopped before he did the snap.  It could be just as simple as Starlord or Thor taking Thanos out when they had the chance.

 

There does seem to be something going on that is odd with reality with what we saw in this one episode.

 

We'll see what happenes next season, since by then they can properly deal with the snap if they want to.


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Posted 14 May 2019 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 08:02 PM

Well. That was a trip. Sound track sounded STRANGEly familiar...
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 09:30 PM

That was really bad.  Starting to think I should just skip the space-team episodes entirely.

 

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 08:35 PM

I...thought it was maybe my favorite episode of the series? And I like this show a lot.
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Posted 13 July 2019 - 05:26 AM

So, I'm currently a few episodes behind, but seeing as there's not a lot of discussion here anyways, I think I'll just dump my thoughts.
 

That was really bad.  Starting to think I should just skip the space-team episodes entirely.

Was that epside 3? Because WOW. How boring, dragging, unfunny, and so many moments of characters having the idiot ball. A very large idiot ball. For starters, there are so many "SHUT UP" moments in this episode...

It's supposed to be funny, except it isn't. This plot is totally boring and pointless and only distracts from the much more interesting plot which this episode is completely skipping. It's like a totally stupid side quest from MTMTE/Lost Light, only more annoying.

I don't think I've ever struggled so much watching through an episode of this series. I had to pause multiple times just to gather the strength to continue. It's really that terrible.

Just one example: Piper has her gun trained on the Chronicom hunter. She explicitly says "don't even think about it", and yet he can throw his ring thing, step inside, let it completely engulf him, all of which takes like three entire seconds, until Piper, who has been aiming her gun at him this entire time, finally thinks about shooting him. Mind you, Piper was the only one who didn't eat the trippy alien snacks, So she really has no excuse for taking her sweet ass time shooting the guy making an escape. I don't know what to call this really. "Editing that is trying to make a character less incompetent than she would really be if this were real life"?

The writers are literally throwing in totally unfunny obstacles to make the plot drag on for an entire episode. Considering this season is only supposed to have 13 episodes, an episode that is 75% filler is not a good sign



And then comes episode 4.

And again, too many characters acting like bloody morons. There's a creature inside this dead guy's chest, so the first thing Dr. Replacement does is pull out the very obvious knife.

Which, by the way, didn't kill the parasite. Great job there, Coulson II! And why exactly did he dimension-hopping alien parasite hunters just leave the gut there and didn't finish off the creature for good? So it could possess someone else?

Why aren't there SHIELD protocols to immediately sound the alarm and shot off the lab if something like this happens? Instead, we have three people looking for an alien parasite while everyone else inside the base has no clue what is going on. Great job there!

Wasn't it just last season when Mack was so super-genre-savvy that he insisted on not splitting up because that is how people get killed in movies? Why is everyone suddenly genre-blind?

That's what I always loved about the show - creative ways to play with tropes and subvert them by making the characters smarter than your typical fictional character doofus. But now everyone keeps picking up the idiot ball. Geez.

And then the batbird flies straight into Agent Affair Guy's mouth. What, was he standing there with a gaping mouth or what? And wow, seriously, Agents of SHIELD? Now you're straight ripping off "Alien", complete with the "don't let it take control of me" cliché?


Why are Mack and May so pissed that Deke built a start-up company? What would they have preferred - him continuing being a freeloader? And why didn't Agent Khan, who has been keeping tabs on him this entire time, []reported any about this[/i]? Seriously? Mack, I think you're bad at running this organization...

Okay, this is getting ridiculous. The opening of the episode, with Deke's "holodeck" first person shooter simulation, was a deliberate play with clichés, using all the standard worn out action film dialogue lines, but unfortunately, the rest of the episode that's set in the real world is also riddled with clichés, except now they're played straight...


Also, the humor doesn't work. It seems like they're trying to mimick the humor of the movies, but there the timing was better. Here, the jokes fall flat because they're so poorly timed.

This social media influencer character was terrible. I know she's supposed to be a parody, and I know she's played by one of the show's producers, but really... no. This. Isn't. Funny.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:14 AM

Mack was mad at Deke for not joining up with Shield.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 09:18 AM

Yeah, it's not that Deke started a company specifically, but that he deserted and abandoned them when his knowledge of alien and future tech could be helpful.


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 10:42 AM

Sarge did address the knife thing later, but it was still sloppy of him.

 

Ep 9 last night felt like a season closer, even though there's 4 eps left.  

 

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 03:12 PM

Poor Davis. They only just got me to remember who he is.
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Posted 15 July 2019 - 07:11 AM

The worst part about the Skrike bat getting loose inside the base was Yo-Yo standing there doing nothing. You're a speedster, do speedy things!

 

Then there's the idiocy in Toldja, where they capture the two infected specifically because they're travelling toward each other, only to put them in the same containment cell on the Zephyr.



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 08:55 AM

My wife asked why they did that, and I told her I assumed it was because they only had one cell.

I read an interesting theory on who Sarge really is, and Im
convinced. I wont spoil it here, but it makes a whole lot if sense.
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