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@  Patchouli Kn... : (24 February 2017 - 11:19 PM)

The Allspark is one bad mother...

@  Foffy the Sheep : (24 February 2017 - 10:09 PM)

My Allspark has never heard of a mother.

@  BlackMax : (24 February 2017 - 09:28 PM)

My mother has never heard of an Allspark.

@  The Doctor Who : (24 February 2017 - 08:54 PM)

This is your mother on Allspark drugs.

@  Bass X0 : (24 February 2017 - 08:42 PM)

This is your Allspark. This is drugs. This is your Allspark on drugs.

@  unluckiness : (24 February 2017 - 08:33 PM)

"if i was a mom, this would be shocking."

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2017 - 06:37 PM)

Your MOM is Patrick!

@  ShadowMan024 : (24 February 2017 - 04:39 PM)

NO! THIS IS PATRICK!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 February 2017 - 02:56 PM)

https://www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=NlMT-oEIQuo

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2017 - 02:53 PM)

He's a complicated man, and no one understands him but his woman.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 February 2017 - 02:50 PM)

No, this is Patrick.

@  Rycochet : (24 February 2017 - 12:52 PM)

This is 29 Acacia Road, and this is Eric, the schoolboy who leads an exciting double life. For when Eric eats a banana, an amazing transformation occurs.... Eric is Bananaman, ever alert for the call to action!

@  Robowang : (24 February 2017 - 12:22 PM)

Peter Piper picked my pecker

@  RichardT1977 : (24 February 2017 - 11:31 AM)

This script is batnanas. B-A-T-N-A-N-A-S.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 February 2017 - 08:27 AM)

Bats in SPAAAAAAACE!

@  Waspinator : (24 February 2017 - 02:58 AM)

breathes in space

@  MEDdMI : (23 February 2017 - 10:40 PM)

Banananananananaaabatman

@  ShadowMan024 : (23 February 2017 - 10:28 PM)

Batamarangutan.

@  The Doctor Who : (23 February 2017 - 08:30 PM)

Batamarang

@  MEDdMI : (23 February 2017 - 08:15 PM)

Batmeese.

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 February 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Batmae.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2017 - 02:41 PM)

I think it's pronounced "batman incorporated"...

@  D Immortalis : (23 February 2017 - 02:41 PM)

Batmans is more fun to say but i think, sadly, its batmen

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2017 - 02:36 PM)

Is the plural of Batman Batmans or Batmen?

@  Vexwing : (23 February 2017 - 12:32 PM)

I'd be excited if it were within the realm of affordability.

@  Benbot : (23 February 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Transmetal or GTFO

@  Robowang : (23 February 2017 - 11:21 AM)

HORACE STATUE

@  Crypt : (23 February 2017 - 09:41 AM)

Anyone else excited about that Prime 1 Studio BW Megatron? It looks amazing

@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p


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#1641 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:52 AM

This show drives me bugnuts insane each and every time Ollie breaks out the "do as I say, not as I do" no-killing speech.

This episode, he did it while the bodies were still burning in the wreckage of the helicopter he'd just shot down.

I'm actually fine with Oliver killing, I just can't stand the triteness of him doing so and then trying to convince others to "be better" than him.

(And no, self defense is not what marks the difference between what Ollie did and what he was trying to stop Tina from doing. It doesn't count as self defense if you go out looking for armed gunmen to fight)
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Posted 03 February 2017 - 12:33 AM

There's a difference between taking down people shooting at you during a firefight, and going after a particular person with solely for the purpose of killing them.

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 01:05 AM

As I said, when you're the one who starts the fight, that difference is just quibbling.


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:13 AM

As I said, when you're the one who starts the fight, that difference is just quibbling.

 

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 01:28 PM

Oliver doesn't seem to have much of a problem with Rene and Diggle shooting lots of people.


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 02:07 PM

Didn't like this episode simply because I feel this season's already stuffed with new characters, and I can't bring myself to care about a FOURTH Canary at this point.

That said, I really like Talia and hope to see more of her. Hope we see her and Nyssa team up at some point too.

Diggle being freed felt like a big anticlimax, but I guess getting Spartan back sooner is preferable to a bunch of courtroom scenes.

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 10:33 PM

Nyssa's actress is a regular on another show.  We may or may not get to see her again this season.


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:10 PM

This show drives me bugnuts insane each and every time Ollie breaks out the "do as I say, not as I do" no-killing speech.

This episode, he did it while the bodies were still burning in the wreckage of the helicopter he'd just shot down.

I'm actually fine with Oliver killing, I just can't stand the triteness of him doing so and then trying to convince others to "be better" than him.

(And no, self defense is not what marks the difference between what Ollie did and what he was trying to stop Tina from doing. It doesn't count as self defense if you go out looking for armed gunmen to fight)

 

There is a difference between killing in battle (i.e taking down the gang of a dangerous Drug Lord who instead of surrendering yelled "Kill them all!") and premeditated murder. That is what Ollie is trying to keep people (including himself) from doing. Ollie finally understands the difference (and understands that some people through their actions are so heinous that the only way to deal with them is to take the out with extreme prejudice).  


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:57 AM

Okay, so, who exactly was that talking with Susan Williams at the end?


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:30 AM

We don't know yet. Maybe Prometheus (unknown to her)?

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:15 AM

So far, he's just "guy who Susan hired to dig up dirt."  He's appeared before on the "What's Ollie really been doing?" subplot.

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 12:01 PM

Thanks.  It's hard to remember.  Her appearances are so short and sporadic.

 

I think it would be kind of cool if Talia was actually Prometheus (or at least directly trained him), taking revenge for Ollie screwing up the League of Assassins, and rejecting their teachings.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:51 AM

As much as this latest episode was a drawn out in-your-face gun PSA, Rene's backstory was handled well.


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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:18 AM

I did like that they covered all the bases without forcing anyone into a position that was against their character (including having "I don't wanna talk about this issue" white privilege).  Also, it really didn't matter what side Oliver came down on, he'd be a hypocrite.  ;)

 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:00 AM

In the span of a day, Oliver enacts gun control measures that everyone is cool with.  Possibly the most preposterous thing they've done in a season that's featured an alien armada and him finding a woman with the exact same name and powers as his dead lover.

 

Did Vigilante seem wounded at all in his short appearance?  I've been thinking for awhile that he's NOT Adrian, and this reinforces that for me.

 

Really weird that Ollie's reporter girlfriend dominates the topic of conversation in the opening, and is nowhere to be seen at the press conference.  This season is still struggling to juggle all the characters it has.  (Perhaps counter to that argument though, I miss Rory already, he was easily the most likable of the new team.)


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:37 AM

Did Vigilante seem wounded at all in his short appearance?

Not really. But then again, didn't move around that much, mostly just stood still and raised his arms to shoot his gun.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:25 PM

Well, it seemed that everyone was cool with the law because it didn't really do anything.  All the Actual Law Stuff that people objected to during the episode was explicitly eliminated, and that doesn't leave a lot of ways it could actually control guns.  Of course, it was also unrealistic that the anti-gun-control councilwoman wasn't explicitly in the pocket of the NRA, and was merely acting out of personal convictions that she could waive because it would look bad to oppose the law.  In reality, they're a lot more cartoonishly over-the-top in refusing to consider anything that even resembles gun control.

 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:33 PM

It seemed that the councilwoman backed off her objection to increased gun registration requirements in exchange for not altering the limits on what guns people could actually buy.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:39 PM

I will say that the climax, where you assume Oliver is going to show up to the hospital as Green Arrow, but instead he talks down the shooter, man to man, that was really well done.  I think the show had more to say in that moment than with all the repeated talking points we got through the rest of the hour.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:53 PM

I wish they had actually elaborated on the magical gun control plan that everyone was happy with.  We could really use that.  Even the anti-gun-control Councilwoman approved of it without having time to actually read it.

 

Vigilante was definitely moving without the difficulty that Adrian was displaying moments before.  But this show isn't big on logical consistency.


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