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@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I'm genuinely amused/impressed, even if it wasn't intentional.

@  Benbot : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

That's a lot of shouting

@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Wow, Bass, your post took up the entire Shoutbox exactly without being over/under a line.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM)

The best Marvel issue is, was, and always will be Decepticon Graffiti. The Battlechargers are awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (01 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

ReGeneration was criticised for being too slow paced and drawn out way too long, yet the Decepticon leaders are introduced and dispatched just to tick the box that they made an appearance. I also preferred the single stand alone stories from the original Marvel comics instead of each issue having like four different plots running through it, which didn't make for satisfying reading IMO. If a writer is writing for a trade, don't release individual issues. I also thought the artwork was poor - before, the Marvel comics tried to have the best artwork they could at the time, whereas now they were intentionally limiting themselves to appear "retro", and it shows. The pacing was the worst though, some characters just stand around doing nothing to progress their part of the story, like Shockwave's segments. In contrast, compare any six consecutive issues from the Marvel comics and a whole lot more happens than in RG1. Furman also fell into his pattern of wasting space world building and pointless scenes when the story had to end at #100.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:10 PM)

Even then, Furman's material never really had a huge toy-push aspect to it, other than "here's new character!"

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Considering it was a wrap-up for a story whose toyline had ended anyway, I feel like it worked out well enough. I mean, the last major iteration did play an important part in things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

New comics didn't need to shill any toys at all...so there wasn't any push to do weird and different things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:03 PM)

The big problem is that stuff like the old comics were produced under the idea of shilling toys...which ultimately resulted in a lot of the weirdness people remember

@  Rycochet : (01 March 2017 - 02:01 PM)

He was hired to write an exercise in nostalgia and that's what he produced.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 01:38 PM)

Speaking of Marvel, finally read the rest of ReGeneration One, thanks to a Comixology sale. I... don't understand the hate.

@  lastmaximal : (28 February 2017 - 09:09 PM)

Works for some, not all. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trademark

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 08:57 PM)

Yeah, making it "Autobot X" seems to be their way of getting around many of those issues with overly generic terms

@  Rycochet : (28 February 2017 - 08:41 PM)

Hasbro would just call the toys Marvel's Thunderstrike or Autobot/Decepticon Thunderstrike.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 08:19 PM)

D.C. owns Bumblebee and they've made toys of her, so if a Mattel licensee can share names with a TF...

@  Telly : (28 February 2017 - 07:42 PM)

doesnt marvel own that? i know theyve got the comic character, not sure about the name for toys though. there ever been a thunderstrike figure? would it even be in the same area as a tf name?

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:38 PM)

You know, "Thunderstrike" would actually be a pretty kickass TF name! Surprised it's never been used!

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:27 PM)

Thunderstruck.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:25 PM)

How about Thunderblust? http://gatherer.wiza...iverseid=157411

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:23 PM)

Or Shockburninator, who turns into a satellite and a dragon.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Burninationblastatron

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

It's Thunderblast, but she turns into a wingaling dragon instead of "transforming" into a boat.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Thunderburninator.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:20 PM)

You need to get "blast" in there somewhere

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 11:26 AM)

THATCH-ROOF COTTAGEEEEEEEEES

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2017 - 03:06 AM)

Only if the packaging looks like a thatch-roofed cottage.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 09:27 PM)

They need to make a dragonbot named "Burninatron."

@  BlackMax : (27 February 2017 - 09:15 PM)

I find upcoming Last Knght's Steelbane sexy. A very Skyrim name for a giant robot who is also a dragon? Be still my heart.

@  MEDdMI : (27 February 2017 - 06:24 PM)

I never found most Hollywood heartthrobs sexy, even if they were around my age. I think I knew even back then that the char they play doesn't reflect how the actor really looks/behaves.

@  Rycochet : (27 February 2017 - 06:11 PM)

The only thing I've seen with Megan Fox in is the Jonah Hex movie... She was bad, but everyone and everything was bad.

@  RichardT1977 : (27 February 2017 - 05:53 PM)

Modern western culture, ladies and gentlemen...

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:50 PM)

Ha! You can't fool a true Z-block afficionado like me! That's actually an S-block viewed from behind!

@  The Doctor Who : (27 February 2017 - 04:36 PM)

*unveils a Tetris Z-Block in moody lighting* Not at aaaaall?

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:27 PM)

That would be silly.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Because I definitely wasn't. Nope. Not at all.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Am I the only straight male Nintendo fan who was never strangely aroused by the Tetris Z-block?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Her acting makes her come across as a living Pat Lee illustration.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:27 PM)

No. No, you're not.

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 01:26 PM)

And am I the only straight male Transformers fan who never found Megan Fox attractive?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:21 PM)

Especially since she's the same age as my parents.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:19 PM)

It's like I instinctually knew that by the time I watched the movies, it'd be weird since IRL she was way older than me.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:18 PM)

Am I, like, the only straight male Star Wars fan who never had a thing for Leia?

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 12:44 PM)

Call the police!

@  Paladin : (27 February 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Kubo got robbed. TWICE.

@  Lazy Garou : (27 February 2017 - 08:10 AM)

god! Thrawn is awesome.he's got super detective skills!

@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.


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#21 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Oct 14 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.

Good. Not that I plan to follow this show but good.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Oct 14 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.


Well Teen Titans did call him Slade because the whole "Death" thing in his name and they had to be more kid friendly. Glad they are going with Deathstroke, but I can understand why some would say Slade.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Oct 14 2012, 03:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yo, hug Smallville. That jive was terrible. Perhaps worse than the Adventures of Lois and Clark. Perhaps worse than Superman 3 and 4. Although we were all younger people when it came out so we didn't notice, but if they took the same production values and put them on a new show without something we're as eager to see, we'd all laugh at it. To prove my point: Aquaman!

Will watch Arrow later.


HAHAHAHAHA Thats funny! Oh wait your serious aren't you!? icon-wildride.gif Saying Lois and Clark was a good series compared to anything else is just *SHUDDER* I just don't get the hate for Smallville in comparison to Superman the Soap Opera. Yes Smallville was Superman free for the 99% of the series but was the acting as cheesy as all get out and so filled with 90's camp as L&C. I can't say too much as I do own all of L&C but upon watching through it in recent years I just can't keep it on without laughing at how bad it was. I love it but Smallvile was aces better of a tv series than L&C.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:46 AM

I really enjoyed Smallville when it first started. Hated it between season 5.5 and 8. Liked it again at season 9.

This caught me. It didn't get me as excited as some shows, but it was enough to ensure that I check out a couple more episodes and see how it goes.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(Wickerness @ Oct 14 2012, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Kevin S @ Oct 14 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.


Well Teen Titans did call him Slade because the whole "Death" thing in his name and they had to be more kid friendly. Glad they are going with Deathstroke, but I can understand why some would say Slade.



My speculation...PURELY from the shot in the pilot of the mask and the teaser footage, that "Deathstroke" won't be an individual, but rather an identity passed around.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(Wickerness @ Oct 12 2012, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know a lot about Green Arrrow's back story in the comics. Were both parents killed off? If this is changed, I was wondering if they were just trying to make him a bit more different than Batman. I do know there have been some similarities between the two, except GA isn't as apparently dark.



IIRC, his parents are dead at the start, but not in a "Wahh, my parents are dead!!! way" just as in, they died at some point. He's then shipwrecked, learns to use a bow, goes back etc.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE(Scavgraphics @ Oct 16 2012, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IIRC, his parents are dead at the start, but not in a "Wahh, my parents are dead!!! way

And now I'm visualizing Ollie (the comics/YJ guy with the sense of humour, not this one) doing an impression of Batman.

(Who is, of course, standing right behind him.)

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:25 PM

Anyone else in love with action scenes in this? I wish the rest of the show was as good a quality. The acting is incredibly mediocre.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:30 PM

The action is indeed shot very well. That's the only positive thing I can say about the show.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

So I watched the first episode. It didn't outright suck. In fact, I rather enjoyed it.

Especially in how Ollie tends to skip the subterfuge with his bodyguard. I will keep watching, if the writers are any good: it'll hit a grand stride and be a great story.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:14 PM

I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.


Not just Smallville, but Supernatural was also really slow and dragged there heels till they stumbled across their ongoing plot. So even if is seem lame now, CW's actions shows tend to get better with time. Maybe sit the first season out, and give it a shot after its over to see if it have real potential.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:50 PM

Hell, all shows have a learning curve. I'm liking this fine for now; it's setting up plot coupons that'll pay off down the road. I especially like Ollie's gradual development from a targeted vengeance-seeker. He's just now realizing that the secret identity thing is going to be harder than he expected.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:55 PM

Maybe in this one we will get to see a Bruce Wayne or Hal Jordan cameo. Wish we could of gotten some of those in Smallville.

Speaking of, I like how Ollie is taking the opposite direction of what Bruce Wayne does with his "civillian" life. Shucking off the company, acting like a spoiled rich kid who doesnt care about the job vs trying to run the multi billion dollar company.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

I've seen people complain about everything from the acting, to the renaming of the city to the "He shot them with arrows but they didn't die" stuff..

Personally, I've liked both episodes I've seen and have few complaints because I understand no show gets it right on day one (Well, very rarely).

Star Trek TNG wasn't good until season 3.

Plus, I have zero investment in the source. When I was reading comics in high school I was a Marvel guy through and through. What little I knew about DC amounted to Superman and a bunch of other people who had "the strength of 10 men!".

Green Arrow was just the "faggy Robin Hood looking guy" so to me anything they do with him is an improvement of my first impressions.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:25 PM

QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

Putting aside how I feel about this show I find this to be a rather weird argument.
"That show sucked in the beginning too!"
So you're saying this show sucks?
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Oct 19 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

Putting aside how I feel about this show I find this to be a rather weird argument.
"That show sucked in the beginning too!"
So you're saying this show sucks?


I think its more "Look at how well it ended up becoming, compared to where it started from"

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE(Database @ Oct 19 2012, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Oct 19 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

Putting aside how I feel about this show I find this to be a rather weird argument.
"That show sucked in the beginning too!"
So you're saying this show sucks?


I think its more "Look at how well it ended up becoming, compared to where it started from"

Still pretty much irrelevant when the show is three episodes old.

"It might get really good!" is hardly incentive to put aside all the issues one may have with it.

Edited by Cheetimus Primal, 19 October 2012 - 10:38 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:40 PM

And I'm not trying to argue about the show seeing as people get pretty pissed off and take it mildly personally when you say a show they like sucks. I'm just saying that particular argument is bad.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:04 AM

Im not saying it sucks, but Im not saying its great either. Its 2 episodes old and just needs more time to develope. Although I think they might be rushing things, giving him Deadshot in the 3rd episode and Deathstroke later this season. Its almost like they are going to try and squeeze in as much as they can in case it gets canned. Maybe 1 big bad villan spread out of the course of a season, dont just bring these guys in the 1st season for 1 or 2 episodes and not be able to use them again in later seasons should it continue on.

As for the comment earlier about the action scenes being to short, that was the problem with Smallville as well. The Doomsday fight was what, about 45 seconds? All of the other fights were done in less than that? Understandable they wouldnt do the whole Death of Superman story in Smallville, but they at least could of given it a longer fight. Honestly though, I think Doomsday was stupid to bring in anyway to that particular show anyway.



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