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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#1 Darth_Prime

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:06 AM

Who else watched this? I thought it was good, curious to see where it goes. The only thing I really know about the character is what Ive seen in Smallville, Justice Leauge and Young Justice, never read any of the comics. Has DC/CW come out and said anything about what has already been established in Smallville with the Green Arrow character? Also, why is it not Justin Hartley playing the role? It seems like CW was really wanting him with trying him out as Aquaman and then giving him the Green Arrow roll on Smallville.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:13 AM

QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 11 2012, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who else watched this? I thought it was good, curious to see where it goes. The only thing I really know about the character is what Ive seen in Smallville, Justice Leauge and Young Justice, never read any of the comics. Has DC/CW come out and said anything about what has already been established in Smallville with the Green Arrow character? Also, why is it not Justin Hartley playing the role? It seems like CW was really wanting him with trying him out as Aquaman and then giving him the Green Arrow roll on Smallville.


I watched it. Kinda felt hokey in bits. Like when it turned out that the initial arrow attack against the rich guy's guards only put them into the hospital. Really? Because they looked kinda dead to me.

Also, I don't get why Ollie had to make up the Green hood in that first battle, since it was legitimate self defense (up until that last guy, but if he went the legitimate route, he wouldn't have had to kill him). And well, because his fingerprints would be over everything, if this was reality.

As for Smallville, I think I read on Ain't it Cool news that there is no connection & this is it's own thing.

But hey, yeah Dresden... Erm, I mean Blackstone. (Paul Blackstone played Harry Dresden in the SciFi series The Dresden Files, based on the books.)

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:27 AM

why the hell was Slade's mask on the island?!

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE(Rhinox @ Oct 11 2012, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why the hell was Slade's mask on the island?!


Eh, not sure since I don't have this on DVR & might have missed that bit. I think I started watching a few minutes late. Still, did they show any other people on that island? Because, I've a hard time believing that Ollie would develop all his skills, just him on his lonesome on that island.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:17 AM

Is that who's mask it was supposed to be? I just thought of it as head on a stick, guess I should of paid more attention. I did read on www.superherohype.com that the King was cast for the Royal Flush Gang. here

Again, not the most knowledgeable on DC comics, but from what I saw of them in the Justice Leauge: Doom cartoon I like them.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:40 AM

It was good enough that I'll watch episode 2....the dialog was stilted, and the main actor was pretty much charisma-less, and has the emotional range of the girl from Twilight.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Scavgraphics @ Oct 11 2012, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was good enough that I'll watch episode 2....the dialog was stilted, and the main actor was pretty much charisma-less, and has the emotional range of the girl from Twilight.


Eh not much different than Smallville at times. They really need to find another mansion to use though. For not tying into Smallville using the same mansion that Lex lived in for the Queens estate is kinda funny. But then again we could have a bunch of mutants running around too icon-fire.gif

But lets see we already have some forms of Speedy, Merlyn, and Canary. Slade mask on a stick too. Like that they aren't shy enough to bring in some more comic references already.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:40 PM

And we know Huntress is going to show up.

And John Barrowman, who is practically a comic book character himself.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

I thought it was pretty awful, honestly. I'll give it three more episodes, probably, before I give up on it.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

Yeah, this is pretty hackneyed writing but on par for the CW at least.
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:42 AM

Wait, what?
"There are other ways of finding out what my son knows."

Yeah, like asking him. You're his DAMN MOTHER!
And with that I'm done.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Oct 11 2012, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And we know Huntress is going to show up.

And John Barrowman, who is practically a comic book character himself.

Man, if only he could show up as Captain Jack (Doctor Who version, not Torchwood version). That would be the best thing.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:23 PM

I don't know a lot about Green Arrrow's back story in the comics. Were both parents killed off? If this is changed, I was wondering if they were just trying to make him a bit more different than Batman. I do know there have been some similarities between the two, except GA isn't as apparently dark.

I kind of liked it. I am glad that this isn't connected to Smallville, because they had pretty much written Ollie into a corner on that show. There is a lot of stuff going on. It's hard to tell who Ollie can trust and who the less obvious bad guys are. Should we trust the step father? Heck should we trust the mother? Is this family more like the Luthors, except with the mom being the bad one? Or is something else going on with the mom? Too early to tell. I'm going to keep watching.

I think that it's a bit interesting that we don't automatically know whose side everyone is on. Though this could read like a soap opera, but comics in general can be like that too.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Oct 12 2012, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Oct 11 2012, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And we know Huntress is going to show up.

And John Barrowman, who is practically a comic book character himself.

Man, if only he could show up as Captain Jack (Doctor Who version, not Torchwood version). That would be the best thing.



I just read that twice. They are the same person.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

No...no they are not.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

Same guy give or take 2000 years being buried alive by your best friend and own brother.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:26 AM

Yo, hug Smallville. That jive was terrible. Perhaps worse than the Adventures of Lois and Clark. Perhaps worse than Superman 3 and 4. Although we were all younger people when it came out so we didn't notice, but if they took the same production values and put them on a new show without something we're as eager to see, we'd all laugh at it. To prove my point: Aquaman!

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:39 AM

I would watch the HECK out of an Aquaman show. The pilot had mythic tones and there'd be no shortage of beach bodies. And Lou Diamond Phillips would have a job again.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:44 AM

It also had basically /everything bad/
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:49 PM

From panel:

Royal Flush gang, most members wear hockey masks.

Guy with big eye monocle sight type thing, Deadshot? Can't think of the guy from Arkam Asylum exactly.

They said that Roy Harper might show up, when somebody asked.

Pointed out that Speedy crushed the pill with an award for archery.

Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.

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