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@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

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Urkel!

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Steeeeeeeeve.

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LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

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Candleja-

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Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

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Spongebob!

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KHAAAAAAAN


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#21 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Oct 14 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.

Good. Not that I plan to follow this show but good.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Oct 14 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.


Well Teen Titans did call him Slade because the whole "Death" thing in his name and they had to be more kid friendly. Glad they are going with Deathstroke, but I can understand why some would say Slade.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Oct 14 2012, 03:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yo, hug Smallville. That jive was terrible. Perhaps worse than the Adventures of Lois and Clark. Perhaps worse than Superman 3 and 4. Although we were all younger people when it came out so we didn't notice, but if they took the same production values and put them on a new show without something we're as eager to see, we'd all laugh at it. To prove my point: Aquaman!

Will watch Arrow later.


HAHAHAHAHA Thats funny! Oh wait your serious aren't you!? icon-wildride.gif Saying Lois and Clark was a good series compared to anything else is just *SHUDDER* I just don't get the hate for Smallville in comparison to Superman the Soap Opera. Yes Smallville was Superman free for the 99% of the series but was the acting as cheesy as all get out and so filled with 90's camp as L&C. I can't say too much as I do own all of L&C but upon watching through it in recent years I just can't keep it on without laughing at how bad it was. I love it but Smallvile was aces better of a tv series than L&C.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:46 AM

I really enjoyed Smallville when it first started. Hated it between season 5.5 and 8. Liked it again at season 9.

This caught me. It didn't get me as excited as some shows, but it was enough to ensure that I check out a couple more episodes and see how it goes.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(Wickerness @ Oct 14 2012, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Kevin S @ Oct 14 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.


Well Teen Titans did call him Slade because the whole "Death" thing in his name and they had to be more kid friendly. Glad they are going with Deathstroke, but I can understand why some would say Slade.



My speculation...PURELY from the shot in the pilot of the mask and the teaser footage, that "Deathstroke" won't be an individual, but rather an identity passed around.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(Wickerness @ Oct 12 2012, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know a lot about Green Arrrow's back story in the comics. Were both parents killed off? If this is changed, I was wondering if they were just trying to make him a bit more different than Batman. I do know there have been some similarities between the two, except GA isn't as apparently dark.



IIRC, his parents are dead at the start, but not in a "Wahh, my parents are dead!!! way" just as in, they died at some point. He's then shipwrecked, learns to use a bow, goes back etc.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE(Scavgraphics @ Oct 16 2012, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IIRC, his parents are dead at the start, but not in a "Wahh, my parents are dead!!! way

And now I'm visualizing Ollie (the comics/YJ guy with the sense of humour, not this one) doing an impression of Batman.

(Who is, of course, standing right behind him.)

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:25 PM

Anyone else in love with action scenes in this? I wish the rest of the show was as good a quality. The acting is incredibly mediocre.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:30 PM

The action is indeed shot very well. That's the only positive thing I can say about the show.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

So I watched the first episode. It didn't outright suck. In fact, I rather enjoyed it.

Especially in how Ollie tends to skip the subterfuge with his bodyguard. I will keep watching, if the writers are any good: it'll hit a grand stride and be a great story.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:14 PM

I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.


Not just Smallville, but Supernatural was also really slow and dragged there heels till they stumbled across their ongoing plot. So even if is seem lame now, CW's actions shows tend to get better with time. Maybe sit the first season out, and give it a shot after its over to see if it have real potential.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:50 PM

Hell, all shows have a learning curve. I'm liking this fine for now; it's setting up plot coupons that'll pay off down the road. I especially like Ollie's gradual development from a targeted vengeance-seeker. He's just now realizing that the secret identity thing is going to be harder than he expected.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:55 PM

Maybe in this one we will get to see a Bruce Wayne or Hal Jordan cameo. Wish we could of gotten some of those in Smallville.

Speaking of, I like how Ollie is taking the opposite direction of what Bruce Wayne does with his "civillian" life. Shucking off the company, acting like a spoiled rich kid who doesnt care about the job vs trying to run the multi billion dollar company.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

I've seen people complain about everything from the acting, to the renaming of the city to the "He shot them with arrows but they didn't die" stuff..

Personally, I've liked both episodes I've seen and have few complaints because I understand no show gets it right on day one (Well, very rarely).

Star Trek TNG wasn't good until season 3.

Plus, I have zero investment in the source. When I was reading comics in high school I was a Marvel guy through and through. What little I knew about DC amounted to Superman and a bunch of other people who had "the strength of 10 men!".

Green Arrow was just the "faggy Robin Hood looking guy" so to me anything they do with him is an improvement of my first impressions.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:25 PM

QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

Putting aside how I feel about this show I find this to be a rather weird argument.
"That show sucked in the beginning too!"
So you're saying this show sucks?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Oct 19 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

Putting aside how I feel about this show I find this to be a rather weird argument.
"That show sucked in the beginning too!"
So you're saying this show sucks?


I think its more "Look at how well it ended up becoming, compared to where it started from"

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE(Database @ Oct 19 2012, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Oct 19 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 19 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally still like the show and will continue watching it. Remeber, for those of you who liked Smallville, the first few season were hard to watch. Villan of the week got old after awhile and the cave drawings were a weird twist in the story. I think the show just needs more time to develop and it will be good...although Im still guessing a JLA type team will be formed towards the end of it.

Putting aside how I feel about this show I find this to be a rather weird argument.
"That show sucked in the beginning too!"
So you're saying this show sucks?


I think its more "Look at how well it ended up becoming, compared to where it started from"

Still pretty much irrelevant when the show is three episodes old.

"It might get really good!" is hardly incentive to put aside all the issues one may have with it.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:40 PM

And I'm not trying to argue about the show seeing as people get pretty pissed off and take it mildly personally when you say a show they like sucks. I'm just saying that particular argument is bad.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:04 AM

Im not saying it sucks, but Im not saying its great either. Its 2 episodes old and just needs more time to develope. Although I think they might be rushing things, giving him Deadshot in the 3rd episode and Deathstroke later this season. Its almost like they are going to try and squeeze in as much as they can in case it gets canned. Maybe 1 big bad villan spread out of the course of a season, dont just bring these guys in the 1st season for 1 or 2 episodes and not be able to use them again in later seasons should it continue on.

As for the comment earlier about the action scenes being to short, that was the problem with Smallville as well. The Doomsday fight was what, about 45 seconds? All of the other fights were done in less than that? Understandable they wouldnt do the whole Death of Superman story in Smallville, but they at least could of given it a longer fight. Honestly though, I think Doomsday was stupid to bring in anyway to that particular show anyway.



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