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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.


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#1 Darth_Prime

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:06 AM

Who else watched this? I thought it was good, curious to see where it goes. The only thing I really know about the character is what Ive seen in Smallville, Justice Leauge and Young Justice, never read any of the comics. Has DC/CW come out and said anything about what has already been established in Smallville with the Green Arrow character? Also, why is it not Justin Hartley playing the role? It seems like CW was really wanting him with trying him out as Aquaman and then giving him the Green Arrow roll on Smallville.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:13 AM

QUOTE(Darth_Prime @ Oct 11 2012, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who else watched this? I thought it was good, curious to see where it goes. The only thing I really know about the character is what Ive seen in Smallville, Justice Leauge and Young Justice, never read any of the comics. Has DC/CW come out and said anything about what has already been established in Smallville with the Green Arrow character? Also, why is it not Justin Hartley playing the role? It seems like CW was really wanting him with trying him out as Aquaman and then giving him the Green Arrow roll on Smallville.


I watched it. Kinda felt hokey in bits. Like when it turned out that the initial arrow attack against the rich guy's guards only put them into the hospital. Really? Because they looked kinda dead to me.

Also, I don't get why Ollie had to make up the Green hood in that first battle, since it was legitimate self defense (up until that last guy, but if he went the legitimate route, he wouldn't have had to kill him). And well, because his fingerprints would be over everything, if this was reality.

As for Smallville, I think I read on Ain't it Cool news that there is no connection & this is it's own thing.

But hey, yeah Dresden... Erm, I mean Blackstone. (Paul Blackstone played Harry Dresden in the SciFi series The Dresden Files, based on the books.)

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:27 AM

why the hell was Slade's mask on the island?!

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE(Rhinox @ Oct 11 2012, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why the hell was Slade's mask on the island?!


Eh, not sure since I don't have this on DVR & might have missed that bit. I think I started watching a few minutes late. Still, did they show any other people on that island? Because, I've a hard time believing that Ollie would develop all his skills, just him on his lonesome on that island.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:17 AM

Is that who's mask it was supposed to be? I just thought of it as head on a stick, guess I should of paid more attention. I did read on www.superherohype.com that the King was cast for the Royal Flush Gang. here

Again, not the most knowledgeable on DC comics, but from what I saw of them in the Justice Leauge: Doom cartoon I like them.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:40 AM

It was good enough that I'll watch episode 2....the dialog was stilted, and the main actor was pretty much charisma-less, and has the emotional range of the girl from Twilight.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Scavgraphics @ Oct 11 2012, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was good enough that I'll watch episode 2....the dialog was stilted, and the main actor was pretty much charisma-less, and has the emotional range of the girl from Twilight.


Eh not much different than Smallville at times. They really need to find another mansion to use though. For not tying into Smallville using the same mansion that Lex lived in for the Queens estate is kinda funny. But then again we could have a bunch of mutants running around too icon-fire.gif

But lets see we already have some forms of Speedy, Merlyn, and Canary. Slade mask on a stick too. Like that they aren't shy enough to bring in some more comic references already.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:40 PM

And we know Huntress is going to show up.

And John Barrowman, who is practically a comic book character himself.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

I thought it was pretty awful, honestly. I'll give it three more episodes, probably, before I give up on it.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

Yeah, this is pretty hackneyed writing but on par for the CW at least.
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:42 AM

Wait, what?
"There are other ways of finding out what my son knows."

Yeah, like asking him. You're his DAMN MOTHER!
And with that I'm done.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Oct 11 2012, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And we know Huntress is going to show up.

And John Barrowman, who is practically a comic book character himself.

Man, if only he could show up as Captain Jack (Doctor Who version, not Torchwood version). That would be the best thing.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:23 PM

I don't know a lot about Green Arrrow's back story in the comics. Were both parents killed off? If this is changed, I was wondering if they were just trying to make him a bit more different than Batman. I do know there have been some similarities between the two, except GA isn't as apparently dark.

I kind of liked it. I am glad that this isn't connected to Smallville, because they had pretty much written Ollie into a corner on that show. There is a lot of stuff going on. It's hard to tell who Ollie can trust and who the less obvious bad guys are. Should we trust the step father? Heck should we trust the mother? Is this family more like the Luthors, except with the mom being the bad one? Or is something else going on with the mom? Too early to tell. I'm going to keep watching.

I think that it's a bit interesting that we don't automatically know whose side everyone is on. Though this could read like a soap opera, but comics in general can be like that too.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Oct 12 2012, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Oct 11 2012, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And we know Huntress is going to show up.

And John Barrowman, who is practically a comic book character himself.

Man, if only he could show up as Captain Jack (Doctor Who version, not Torchwood version). That would be the best thing.



I just read that twice. They are the same person.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

No...no they are not.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

Same guy give or take 2000 years being buried alive by your best friend and own brother.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:26 AM

Yo, hug Smallville. That jive was terrible. Perhaps worse than the Adventures of Lois and Clark. Perhaps worse than Superman 3 and 4. Although we were all younger people when it came out so we didn't notice, but if they took the same production values and put them on a new show without something we're as eager to see, we'd all laugh at it. To prove my point: Aquaman!

Will watch Arrow later.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:39 AM

I would watch the HECK out of an Aquaman show. The pilot had mythic tones and there'd be no shortage of beach bodies. And Lou Diamond Phillips would have a job again.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:44 AM

It also had basically /everything bad/
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:49 PM

From panel:

Royal Flush gang, most members wear hockey masks.

Guy with big eye monocle sight type thing, Deadshot? Can't think of the guy from Arkam Asylum exactly.

They said that Roy Harper might show up, when somebody asked.

Pointed out that Speedy crushed the pill with an award for archery.

Called him Deathstroke, not Slade.

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