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@  Telly : (21 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

i dont think theyre due for release until november. at least thats when target says ill get trailbreaker and sunstreaker. thought the wiki says theyre out in singapore

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2020 - 06:01 PM)

Has wave 3 actually reached anywhere yet?

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 September 2020 - 04:40 PM)

A few more Bearimy's for Earthrise wave 3 to reach the UK

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 05:07 PM)

Cheers pal.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 September 2020 - 04:42 PM)

Welcome aboard!

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 04:38 PM)

Hey, new to the boards

@  RichardT1977 : (20 September 2020 - 02:29 PM)

I had an idea for a Spiral Zone/Go-Busters crossover fanfic...

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 01:49 PM)

I didn't mean "*exactly* 15 years ago and no other time."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 September 2020 - 12:27 AM)

I mean, the comment was about a linewide gimmick of 15 years ago, not a gimmick only present in a minority of toys from that year.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:14 AM)

I'd like a western take on the UT for it's twentieth, like a annual CG or anime movie on Netflix that is a condensed retelling similar to the film Macross/Robotech: Do You Remember Love.


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#4741 Daith

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 10:04 PM

I'd say a passing familiarity with the original series is best at least but as long as you know the cast of Jason, Zack, Billy, Kimberly, Trini and Tommy and how they fight a space witch that sends monsters down to earth that they fight with martial arts in color coded spandex and Giant robots I think you are good. The main comic starts a bit after Tommy's intro as the Green ranger so he's still at odds a bit with the rest of the cast and slowly integrates as the comic continues.

 

Later on during Shattered Grid.... you'll most likely be a bit lost as the different teams are brought in. But pretty much everything before just needs basic knowledge of the MMPR team, Zodron, Alpha 5, Rita, Goldar.

 

The GO GO Power Ranger book starts before Tommy and has more of the drama of the team still being in High School than the action of the battles more. Can't really say much more than that since the only GO GO books I've gotten are tied to the SG event introducing the Ranger Slayer version of Kim


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Posted 18 June 2018 - 10:07 PM

And before someone else gets to it :D

 

 


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 04:28 PM

As Daith mentioned, you only really need basic knowledge to understand some of the things happening in Shattered Grid, other than that the GO GO Power Rangers book is a Year One type of book that you can just pick up without worrying about knowing much.

I seriously recommend this book. It's really good.


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Posted 24 June 2018 - 06:07 PM

Well, I jumped in at the beginning of Shattered Grid. I've enjoyed it a lot; it certainly doesn't demand much knowledge of the show. I'm sure people who know every series get more out of it than me, but given you can just go with "these are the original guys and here's a bunch of other ones visiting from parallel universes" it's very easy to enjoy as a layperson. 

 

I will definitely catch up on the earlier material. I've already grabbed all of Go Go, which I've enjoyed more. Not sure why... on paper it seems logical, it's the younger book with less baggage both in terms of issue count and by virtue of its premise. But that kind of not-really-in-continuity First Class-style retro-book rarely engages me for long at Marvel or DC, but I guess Boom's PR books are more self-contained and their own thing than such a project would be in the big superhero universe. Part of it is probably that the Ranger Slayer seems like one of the coolest ideas in the event. 

 

I never could have imagined myself getting into Power Rangers, but with most of it on Netflix I'll probably dip in and sample some stuff, whatever Shattered Grid leads me to. Like, Jen's a big deal in the book so I'll probably have a look at Time Force. In Space maybe. RPM? The Corinth stuff is all pretty interesting. I sort of assumed that every season of Power Rangers was just different high schoolers hanging out at juice bars or whatever but this thing goes all over the place. Which I probably should have realised because visiting Japan last year got me kind of interested in Tokusatsu stuff but I never really thought to follow it back to Saban. 


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Posted 24 June 2018 - 11:02 PM

RPM is actually one of the darkest of the series despite having some of the Goofiest looking Zords. It's still quite silly overall but the story actually is interesting with the Rangers being the last bastion for humanity.

 

Time Force is a mixed bag. Despite the name I think Time Travel comes up as much as it did in MMPR. It gets the Rangers to the then present day and then there is a bit later in the series.

 

In Space is the concluding chapter of the Zordon Era and was a season where they went all out thinking it was the end of the series because of how bad Turbo had bombed before it. And the finale went out with a bang. Thus it was the last one with High schoolers for quite some time.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 07:15 AM

RPM is actually one of the darkest of the series despite having some of the Goofiest looking Zords. It's still quite silly overall but the story actually is interesting with the Rangers being the last bastion for humanity.

 

Time Force is a mixed bag. Despite the name I think Time Travel comes up as much as it did in MMPR. It gets the Rangers to the then present day and then there is a bit later in the series.

 

In Space is the concluding chapter of the Zordon Era and was a season where they went all out thinking it was the end of the series because of how bad Turbo had bombed before it. And the finale went out with a bang. Thus it was the last one with High schoolers for quite some time.

 

Time Force was a bait and switch for the production team as well. The sizzle tape they got of the series showed the time travel stuff, what little there actually is of it, and they thought that's what they were getting, but what they actually got as we know, has almost no Time Travel at all so they had to write around that. I think that's why its overall much closer to the Sentai compared to some series that Lynn does.

 

In Space is the concluding Chapter, but Lost Galaxy is the Epilogue as it deals with the last major elements of the Zordon Era before we get a kinda-soft reboot with Lightspeed Rescue; which is where the series really changes to be more Sentai-like in that each season is its own self-contained story with maybe some call backs and crossovers, but still mostly itself own thing. Lost Galaxy brings back villains, characters, and one major set piece from In Space, the level of crossover and continuity that we've yet to really see again unless you count the seriously rushed clusterhug that is Megaforce, that still makes LG firmly in the Zordon Era imo. 


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 02:02 PM

I'd thought about saying just that about Lost Galaxy but I was being lazy and wanted to get back to my gaming.Even then the chain of connection doesn't fully break until the Ninja Storm season with no previous team coming back for an episode that season. Heck Wild Forces connection to Time Force was actually really good. Not to mention Forever Red in Wlld Force.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:46 PM

Yeah, but in those cases its mostly just a small contained crossover with very little major effect on the rest of the series. I'd forgotten Forever Red, and Once a Ranger both are pretty good crossovers if maybe slightly flawed, but both attempt to be big continuity praisers. And just to be fair to Ninja Storm, I believe that's the season where they first changed over to filming in New Zealand; so getting the Wild Force Cast back probably just wasn't in the budget with having to fly 5+ actors over for just an episode or two.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 06:10 PM

There was time travel in every episode of Time force.. the zords always came from and returned to the future..

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 11:06 AM

So they released a 25th Anniversary comics today with 5 stories over the course of the series. 2 MMPR comics, a Mystic Force prequel, Ninja Steel/MMPR crossover, and the most interesting In Space/Lost Galaxy "The Trial of Astronema". Set after LG a glactic court has captured Karone and put her on trial for her crimes as Astronema and Andros, Mike and Maya come to her defense. But the bomb dropped during the course of the trial....

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:56 PM

Thats a major bit if continuity there. Really ties things together.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 06:51 PM

So all the praise got me reading the Boom stuff, which is indeed really great even though I have never been a PR fan - saw some of the original stuff when the first season or two aired, but was never really into it. Given how much fun the books are, I figured I'd dip into the show, just pick a random season or two depending on what caught my attention in Shattered Grid. One of the first things that seemed interesting was Corinth, this post-apocalyptic Last City thing - I did not really understand that there were elements of Power Rangers that extended beyond Kids In School. RPM was cemented as my starting point when I discovered that it featured a Neighbours alumna.

 

So I watched the first episode and liked it a lot. It was, on several levels, obviously About What I Expected A Power Rangers Show to be - cheap, cheesy, Not A Classy BBC Drama, etc. But there was plenty of stuff that worked.

 

I really don't need another fandom spilling junk onto my shelves, but there is definitely a set of these in my future.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 06:51 PM

I really enjoyed the anniversary special, especially the Astronema story. Despite still being basically clueless about the whole franchise, it was a great read. The depth and scope of the mythology behind this stuff has really surprised me.

 

While I'm definitely onboard for anything from Boom now, I'm still not sure I'll be able to tolerate the hammy, bastardised TV stuff. That said, I did watch an episode last night... but that's a story for another thread.


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Posted 28 June 2018 - 07:06 PM

 

I really don't need another fandom spilling junk onto my shelves, but there is definitely a set of these in my future.

I've seen those at Target, and don't forget the 2 packs with either the Green Ranger and Dragonzord, or White Ranger and Tigerzord (depending on your 6th ranger preference)



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Posted 28 June 2018 - 09:43 PM

So all the praise got me reading the Boom stuff, which is indeed really great even though I have never been a PR fan - saw some of the original stuff when the first season or two aired, but was never really into it. Given how much fun the books are, I figured I'd dip into the show, just pick a random season or two depending on what caught my attention in Shattered Grid. One of the first things that seemed interesting was Corinth, this post-apocalyptic Last City thing - I did not really understand that there were elements of Power Rangers that extended beyond Kids In School. RPM was cemented as my starting point when I discovered that it featured a Neighbours alumna.

 

So I watched the first episode and liked it a lot. It was, on several levels, obviously About What I Expected A Power Rangers Show to be - cheap, cheesy, Not A Classy BBC Drama, etc. But there was plenty of stuff that worked.

 

I really don't need another fandom spilling junk onto my shelves, but there is definitely a set of these in my future.

I'm not sure if starting with RPM was such a good idea, unless you're only interested in getting involved with a single season, as RPM, while quite good, is a rather exceptional season, being the most different a season of Power Rangers has ever been, being the least representative of the show overall.

 

That said, if you're interested in possibly checking out any other seasons of the show, I'd recommend any of the following for a newcomer looking to see what the show is like at its best:

  • Season 7: Power Rangers Lost Galaxy - the first season to begin with an almost wholly new cast and which saw a lot of dramatic twists and turns in its story that were meant to up the show's age demographic from little kids to big kids and preteens, as well as an (eventually) engaging cast of villains and a few ties to the previous seasons meant to establish continuity connections.
  • Season 9: Power Rangers Time Force - arguably the best season Saban ever produced, involving a cast of mostly complex-written characters, some of the best acting of the Saban era, and heavier subjects such as the question of whether we have free will or if our future destinies are set in stone, the ethics of vengeance vs. forgiveness, and the evils of discrimination and prejudice.
  • Season 12: Power Rangers Dino Thunder - the second season to be filmed in New Zealand (the first ten were filmed in California) and IMHO the only season to come the closest to how teenagers in high school really behave, with the mentor being a returning veteran ranger from the original first three seasons (Mighty Morphin Power Rangers), and a level of writing that seemed like it was trying to make the story and characters really develop well.
  • Season 13: Power Rangers SPD - set in the future, this season saw the rangers as officers of a futuristic law enforcement training academy and featured a rather unique villain who played the long game with diversionary tactics and strategies uncommon to the typical main villain of a Power Rangers season, as well as well written characters, a rockin' music score akin those of the early seasons, and some (at times) layered storytelling.
  • Season 16: Power Rangers Jungle Fury - the penultimate season of the Disney Era, this one is considered to be a more underrated season as, while not as great as most of the others on this list, it was pretty solidly and competently done overall despite complications that arose from a writer's strike that went on at the time, and featured a heavier focus on martial arts, good character growth, an interesting cast of villains, and a serialized storyline.

Others that most would recommend that I omitted from this list would be the fan favorite Season 6 (Power Rangers In Space) and the also underrated Season 8 (Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue). The reasons I left these two out is because, while both are considered good seasons, In Space was the season that was originally meant to end the show and featured a heavily amount of continuity connections and continuations of things from the preceding seasons that might confuse new viewers unfamiliar with the first five seasons and the significance that both In Space and its ambitions have to them... And Lightspeed Rescue is considered to be the weakest season of its era (what's known as the Post-Zordon Era), having been book-ended between two very strong seasons that its level of quality just doesn't match up to when set against them. It's not a bad season at all, it's just not as strong as it could have been, being a season themed around the rangers being a government-based team of first responders fighting to protect not the whole world but just one city from a band of kinda boring villains, and newer viewers may find its more grounded-in-reality tone a bit less intriguing than the more fantastical tone of the galaxy-spanning Lost Galaxy and the much heavier tone of the destiny-defying Time Force. Still, both In Space and Lightspeed Rescue are among the better seasons of the show (which include all of the other listed above, and maybe others depending on opinions), both featuring their own doses of drama, tension, twists, and cleverness. But I wouldn't recommend them to a first timer.


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Posted 28 June 2018 - 10:44 PM

As a counterpoint, I actually would suggest Lightspeed Rescue to a newcomer since, when you think about shows being above or below the bar, it sorta feels like it is the bar. It feels like the example of the highs and lows of the franchise. I'll note that I'm biased. I actively enjoyed the emergency responder theme and some of the more realistic grounding. Instead of ignoring the blown up builds, they're directly sent to get people out. That said, I wouldn't suggest Lightspeed Rescue to Maruten since he noted the cheese from RPM and that Time Force and SPD are way better picks overall if someone is only watching one or two seasons.
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Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:09 PM

Well you've never really gonna get that far from the cheese in PR, its kinda like watching Doctor Who. You go in knowing what you're getting a show that is gonna be weird and cheesy, and where its production quality can be hit or miss; but you still end up enjoying the ride anyway as long as you're not expecting high art, super serious plots and just kinda want to have fun.


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 07:15 AM

Well you've never really gonna get that far from the cheese in PR, its kinda like watching Doctor Who. You go in knowing what you're getting a show that is gonna be weird and cheesy, and where its production quality can be hit or miss; but you still end up enjoying the ride anyway as long as you're not expecting high art, super serious plots and just kinda want to have fun.

In this vein I highly recommend Mystic Force.



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Posted 29 June 2018 - 05:38 PM

In 25 years theres really only been 1 completely irredeemable season.
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Posted 29 June 2018 - 08:38 PM

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