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@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM)

I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

@  TriBlurr : (09 February 2020 - 11:58 AM)

Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 February 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

@  Sabrblade : (08 February 2020 - 09:49 PM)

MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.


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#1 Maximus Ambus

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:33 AM



Where can a series go after becoming a parody of itself? EVEN LOWER!

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:51 AM

That was a terrible trailer. I don't like seeing them as old guys either. icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:38 AM

QUOTE(BlitzwingHaz @ Jul 26 2012, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was a terrible trailer. I don't like seeing them as old guys either. icon-screamer.gif


The only one I'm really bothered by is Rimmer, since it doesn't really make much sense to have an aging hologram. However, Lister has really just got a bit fat and weathered looking, which given that he's a disgusting, lazy slob, works for me. The Cat's more or less the same thanks to his actor having kept in better shape over the years, and Kryten is wearing a mask which covers most of the most notable signs of aging on him.

Really, I'm still hopeful for the series, and it can't be any worse than the last full series, and dispute it's quite prominant faults Back to Earth wasn't, but I think the problem really is that it's forgotten what its supposed to be making jokes at, and needs to start parodying more modern Sci Fi. The cast are still great comedic actors, they really just need at least good, more original, material to work with.

That really was a bad trailer though.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE(Total Biscuit @ Jul 26 2012, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only one I'm really bothered by is Rimmer, since it doesn't really make much sense to have an aging hologram.


Rimmer wondered the exact same thing in Series 6 whan he met his future self. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:07 PM

I was reading about this on another forum and someone came up with a possible explanation for Rimmer aging: Rimmer was originally restored as a hologram as a companion for Lister, to keep him sane, it's possible that his he is programmed to age along with Lister.

Looking forward to the new series, hoping it will be good.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

I always figured that myself for rimmer. I mean, they "technically" hate each other... so seeing the guy you hate never age, get fat, bald... that's a major kick in the teeth. And its the kind that sneaks up on you too. You just look in the mirror one day: see a fat bastard glaring back, then you look at your room mate: still 25, fit, good skin and teeth.

Like most things, this has potential. Being a mad red dwarf fan, I will watch it regardless. I got enough time to finish my current run through anyway. Second half of series 4, here I come.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE(Dave Zero1 @ Jul 26 2012, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Total Biscuit @ Jul 26 2012, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only one I'm really bothered by is Rimmer, since it doesn't really make much sense to have an aging hologram.


Rimmer wondered the exact same thing in Series 6 whan he met his future self. icon-fire.gif


Yeah, you're right, how'd I forget that? I could probably quote half that episode now that I think about it infact.

Damnit, I really need to rewatch the old series again. Sadly it's one of only a handful of pieces of fiction I like that my fianc?e doesn't, and finding enough time alone to watch more than an episode or two a week just isn't going to happen, especially when it has a small mountain of games to compete with.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:14 AM

Will this at least be building to some kind of conclusion? After the massive cliffhanger the last series ended on and the constant failed attempts to budget a movie, I'd really welcome there actually being an end point to the story. Especially after the last two BBC series weren't their greatest stuff.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:38 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Jul 27 2012, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Will this at least be building to some kind of conclusion? After the massive cliffhanger the last series ended on and the constant failed attempts to budget a movie, I'd really welcome there actually being an end point to the story. Especially after the last two BBC series weren't their greatest stuff.

They die, alone and in space, millions of years from earth. This was a foregone conclusion when everyone decided that it was more important to stay awake during the trip than actually seeing the end of the journey.

The point of the show isn't making it to the end, its seeing how they cope during an unending voyage.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:08 AM

Not if the scripts don't hold up it ain't.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:38 AM

Yeah, but thats a given for any show, regardless of gendre.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Jul 27 2012, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(HellCat @ Jul 27 2012, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Will this at least be building to some kind of conclusion? After the massive cliffhanger the last series ended on and the constant failed attempts to budget a movie, I'd really welcome there actually being an end point to the story. Especially after the last two BBC series weren't their greatest stuff.

They die, alone and in space, millions of years from earth. This was a foregone conclusion when everyone decided that it was more important to stay awake during the trip than actually seeing the end of the journey.

The point of the show isn't making it to the end, its seeing how they cope during an unending voyage.


I kind of hope it ends with a bit of a mix of the Better than Life and Last Human novels.

They find Earth; light years away from where it should be, only to learn humanity turned it into a giant rubbish dump, covering it in trash until an eruption of garbage gas farted it out of orbit.

Bring back Kachanski, make Lister king of the giant Cockroaches, let Rimmer properly go out as a hero, and let the journey end on a hopeful but slightly bittersweet note. I'd even be happy to get 'not quite Ace' Rimmer junior in it.

I really want to catch up with the other Cats before the show ends though.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:01 AM

I always figured the three million years thing was false data from faulty systems.
They found derelicts of ships and other facilities on planets proving time had passed but Kryten and postal pods should have shut down long ago.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

I wouldn't be too worried. I was lucky enough to be at the filming for one of the eps, and it was brilliant, definitely felt a lot like series 3/4 in vibe. I don't think that trailer does it justice at all.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:57 PM

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I always figured the three million years thing was false data from faulty systems.

That was my pet theory for years, pleased to see someone else had the same thoughts. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE(Anonymous X @ Jul 28 2012, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ricky Spanish @ Jul 27 2012, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always figured the three million years thing was false data from faulty systems.

That was my pet theory for years, pleased to see someone else had the same thoughts. icon-hotrod.gif


They do make constant mention of Holly's senility throughout the series. Why can't the time estimate be part of that?

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:54 PM

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I always figured the three million years thing was false data from faulty systems.
They found derelicts of ships and other facilities on planets proving time had passed but Kryten and postal pods should have shut down long ago.



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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:29 AM

Pro three million years:
- the Cat's species evolved
- the radiation had a half life of three million years
- they do refer to being three million years in deep space.
- I suppose stasis could also be used for storage to keep food and chemicals fresh

Against three million years
- Kryten was built in the twenty fourth century and mentions being online for thousands of years on the Nova 5 thinking he was serving human women.
- three million years in deep space they find other ships from earth in less then two, though they did possess superior FTL technology.
- the holoship
- the humans the psirens killed (there's no logic to them making that up).
- supplies on wrecks and derelicts.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:41 AM

That's the thing, Red Dwarf itself seems to be 3 million years old, but everything they encounter definitely appears much younger.

I think there's two ways of reconciling the contradiction, either weird space stuff was encountered during the trip that sent them back in time, not an unreasonable possibility given how much they stumble upon after turning around and heading for home.

Or, it's a side effect of breaking the speed of light in a thoroughly impossible manner. They certainly were experiencing weird time anomalies while at FTL after all.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 07:15 AM

Or the red dwarf is just hitting the leading edge of the last human colonization and exploration wave before the species died out. That would be hundreds of thousands, to millions of years in the future (Relative to the initial launching of the dwarf.) anyway.
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