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@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.


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#41 Detour

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:14 PM

http://www.comicbook...s/news/?a=64359
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

Now THAT was the better teaser, maddeningly out of focus or not. Looks like my friend's theory about the journey to the arctic was right on the money, and I liked a lot of the sequences I saw (Supes got knocked into a bank vault and dented the wall. YES!). But mostly, the end line of the trailer sold it for me:

"My father believed if the world found out what I really was, they'd reject me out of fear. He was convinced the world wasn't ready. What do you think?"

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:35 PM

This thread is ridiculous. Humanizing Superman as a character with things to overcome can only help him.

Whoever said "No one cares about Clark Kent" doesn't understand anything about what makes Superman cool -- it's about more than flying and heat vision.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:41 PM

In this movie Superman has no powers because the earth's yellow sun can not shine through the no-color filter. I love Zach Snyder but this looks bad.
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#45 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Jul 22 2012, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This thread is ridiculous. Humanizing Superman as a character with things to overcome can only help him.

Whoever said "No one cares about Clark Kent" doesn't understand anything about what makes Superman cool -- it's about more than flying and heat vision.

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#46 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:55 PM

Also, damn. That just looks amazing.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE(Rinshan Kaihou @ Jul 22 2012, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be honest I'm just not sure how you write Superman without it becoming about Superman's friends and enemies and not him.

QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ Jul 22 2012, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see how anyone could make Superman or a movie about him engaging.

I've said this before and gotten pooh-poohed for it, but I'll say it again:

"Superman" isn't a character.

"Superman" is a public persona. Trying to make "Superman" into a movie star is what makes Superman movies suck. It's like making a movie about the space shuttle without mentioning the crew. If you really want two hours of Superman doing Superthings, I'm sure there'll be a video game. Watch someone playing it.

Movies need an emotional arc; they need Something Bad to happen to the protagonist. The worse the complication, the more the protagonist has to work to overcome it, the greater the hero he is. Superman has no problems except people wanting to punch him. He punches back. End of movie.

The movie should be about Clark Kent: a Kansas farm-boy who was raised to believe in Truth, Justice, and the American Way, living in a world in which all three are dead or dying. There's your character conflict; Clark goes out into the world and sees that he doesn't belong.

My advice; drop the Jor-El memory-tape (which, if this is anything like the Donner-verse, was a pre-recorded message from Krypton). Have young Clark not know who he is or why his powers exist (his only clue is the rocket ship, which his parents assume is a Russian Government experiment of some kind). He's terrified of himself, and of the Russian Government scientists that he's sure are looking to recover him and punish his family.

Contrary to what Smallville thought, journalism isn't something you can just fall into as a cover job. It's something you need to study for and build a portfolio. Clark Kent must have been working toward being a reporter since high school --maybe even earlier. He wanted to be a reporter before his powers manifested, when he thought he was normal. When he walks into the Daily Planet offices for a job interview, it's his life's dream hanging in the balance.

(And now, knowing that he has a massive secret of his own to conceal contributes to him being so "mild mannered" --Clark can't bring himself to ask the probing questions. His portfolio is full of puff pieces about pet shows and workers' rights and Civic Worker Appreciation Day. His real talent is his personality; reading one of his articles is like reading a personal message from a close friend. Lois is the exact opposite; she's the best damned investigator Perry's ever seen, but her articles read like police reports. He teams them up in the hopes that they'll complement each other.)

When Clark puts on that costume and leaps into action, he's sacrificing everything he wants. It's the most noble, heroic decision he could make (which means something truly massive needs to be at stake --so yes, we'll need a compelling supervillain, but one that could exist without Superman being around to "inspire" them. Maybe Metallo [as an Intergang hit-man, before his Kryptonite makeover], or Atomic Skull, or Bloodsport, or the Toyman, or Freaky the Snowman the Ultra-Humanite, or Barrage --hey, no one took the Scarecrow seriously before Batman Begins). He expects to be punished for it, ripped apart as a freak and/or a menace. He expects the entire army to come knocking down his door.

Then Lois gives him a name. "Superman." His vindication --a name that means "hope," not just for the world (as per the article that wins Lois her first Pulitzer --the first time she's ever written from her gut rather than her head), but for Clark himself --hope that maybe Truth, Justice, and the American Way aren't as dead as he'd thought.

(Leave the origin-story for the second movie; now that Clark has established himself as Superman, he can start to look into where he comes from, and discover it through the movie rather than as an Act One infodump. Maybe the sequel's villain would be someone who knows more about him than he does. Hmm. Maybe there'd be a bounty out for the Last Kryptonian. Maybe a bounty big enough to attract the Last Czarnian. . .)

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

Comic con footage was awesome.

my theory is that the comic con footage was too raw to show nationally. so they chose comic con because they could control the experience.

Either way, looks like the type of movie that will make me want to watch it. grim dark aside, I just like characters with inner conflict.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:49 PM


I fear this will be quite bad.

Not necissarily because of these trailers (though they are sadly pretty dull).

But because

1) all evidence points to the the creators completely missing the point of Superman: fun, bright pulp super hero adventure, wish fulfilment, and hope.

2) Zod and Company are a super-boring choice of main villians. If they were smart, they would have gone with Brainiac.


-ZacWilliam, only Terrance Stamp chewing the scenery as Zod makes them fun in SM2, but they're the last concept I'd do AGAIN, when so much more interesting options exist.
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#50 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:52 PM

I just wanna point out very similar things were said about Spiderman, especially by me.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:52 PM


If you want the tone and general sort of arc I'd like in a Superman film (not the same STORY, but the feel and approach) read Superman for All Seasons and All Star Superman.


-ZacWilliam, those are the best takes on the mythos in modern times IMO.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:02 AM

Blegh. It's Zod and Company again? Disappointing. But eh, I'll deal. They probably don't want to stray too far off the beaten path with the beating the Supes movies have taken at the box office.

Still, Supes has a more extensive rogue gallery then Lex Luthor, Zod, and Darkseid. Brainiac would be a good second/third movie villain with his ties to Kryton. I'd love to get a big budget Metallo. Heck, borrow from TAS and get Bizzaro into the mix as a failed clone in the Luthor-centric movie so we don't have to rely solely on Kryptonite making Luthor a threat. Parasite could be good, but I'm not sure he can carry a movie.

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#53 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:05 AM

Zod's a great choice for the inaugural come back film. The biggest complaint about the last one was he didn't fight anyone. Now we have him having an all out brawl with people of his own caliber in the middle of a city except with today's effects budgets so it will look like armagedon.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:48 AM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 23 2012, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zod's a great choice for the inaugural come back film. The biggest complaint about the last one was he didn't fight anyone. Now we have him having an all out brawl with people of his own caliber in the middle of a city except with today's effects budgets so it will look like armagedon.


I think Zod is great fun in SM2 because Stamp takes it so over the top.

But otherwise the Krypton criminals are SO dull to me. They don't have interesting super costumes or concepts or characters. They're just "3 more Supermans but bad." They even kind of make Superman abit less unique and interesting just by existing.

Then there's the fact that after how crappy Superman Returns was, in part (admitedly only part) because of its aping of the old films, their concept for a reboot? Let's redo something that was in the old films. Sigh.


-ZacWilliam, it's not impossible it could be a good film, but there were SO many better choices they could have made rather than just do Superman 2's villians again.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:04 AM

I just HAVE to assume they're doing Zod and co. because this time, they really want some super-powered slam-bang action. Which will be a very good thing, as opposed to the exciting visuals of lifting and carrying heavy things from Superman Returns. And I imagine that they will provide pathos to the film, as Clark struggles to understand his identity, and when he finally meets more beings from his own race, they turn out to be massive dicks and he must fight them. But given how much this looks to be divorcing itself from the Donner films - which is still the single best most any new Superman movie could make, as far as I'm concerned - the fact that they're using the villains who are ONLY famous for being in Superman 2 makes my brow wrinkle something fierce.

Sayeth I - First movie. Don't do the origin. Start with Superman as established. Villain is Brainiac. Make it appear that he was responsible for the destruction of Krypton and is here to do the same to Earth. Allows for plenty of Krypton-based flashbacks that can reiterate the origin without having to make it the plot of the film, making the flick a good starting place all the same. Turns out he didn't do it. Maybe he has Doomsday as a genetically engineered beast-monster that Supes fights in as the huge big action scene.

Then put Lex Luthor in a hugging battlesuit in the second one.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:11 AM


Brainiac really would have been perfect.

In him you have: Supes biggest classic foe after Luthor, actually interesting visuals, something thats never been done on screen before, links to Krypton, and someone who can go toe to toe with Clark physically for big fights.


-ZacWilliam, Zod and co, again, are just so much less awesome an idea than that.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:37 AM

Saw the teaser before Dark Knight Rises, and I really wasn't impressed at all. Unfortunately, the comic-con footage was already removed.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:26 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 23 2012, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brainiac really would have been perfect.

In him you have: Supes biggest classic foe after Luthor, actually interesting visuals, something thats never been done on screen before, links to Krypton, and someone who can go toe to toe with Clark physically for big fights.


-ZacWilliam, Zod and co, again, are just so much less awesome an idea than that.


Testify. I am sick to death of Zod and crew. I was hoping beyond hope that Brainiac and/or Metallo would be the bad/s in this movie. Brainiac moreso, because he's so awesome.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:39 AM

I'd rather they hold off and build up to Brainiac for a third movie then just fire and forget him in the opening act.

How I could see a Brainiac trilogy going down:

Movie 1: Zod and Company arrive on Earth, their ship's computer is Brainiac. While Supes is having his scuffle with them (Likely using/discovering Kryptonite is a weakness and using it against them), LexCorp secrets the ship away/strip it of the tech they can before Supes comes back. Brainiac ends up at LexCorp.

Movie 2: Luthor-centric, Battle Suit + Metallo, with Brainiac providing design specs for both. End of movie features Brainiac "escaping" LexCorp, possibly by downloading itself into Metallo, overwriting Metallo's base personality in the process, possibly by just downloading itself to its own server, built in secret.

Movie 3: Brainiac showdown. Possible Metallo-base Body allows Brainiac access to Kryptonite, lending some weight to combat. Maybe uses hijacked LexCorp facilities to create robot minions. Insane visuals as Brainiac sets out to consume all information about Earth.

#60 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Jul 23 2012, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just HAVE to assume they're doing Zod and co. because this time, they really want some super-powered slam-bang action. Which will be a very good thing, as opposed to the exciting visuals of lifting and carrying heavy things from Superman Returns. And I imagine that they will provide pathos to the film, as Clark struggles to understand his identity, and when he finally meets more beings from his own race, they turn out to be massive dicks and he must fight them. But given how much this looks to be divorcing itself from the Donner films - which is still the single best most any new Superman movie could make, as far as I'm concerned - the fact that they're using the villains who are ONLY famous for being in Superman 2 makes my brow wrinkle something fierce.

Sayeth I - First movie. Don't do the origin. Start with Superman as established. Villain is Brainiac. Make it appear that he was responsible for the destruction of Krypton and is here to do the same to Earth. Allows for plenty of Krypton-based flashbacks that can reiterate the origin without having to make it the plot of the film, making the flick a good starting place all the same. Turns out he didn't do it. Maybe he has Doomsday as a genetically engineered beast-monster that Supes fights in as the huge big action scene.

Then put Lex Luthor in a hugging battlesuit in the second one.

Doomsday in the first movie? I personally don't want him in any movie but the first? Really?
The very reason I don't want him around is I don't trust WB to make him out to be the proper threat he should be and using him the first movie would most certainly enhance that problem.
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