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@  Bass X0 : (16 July 2020 - 09:43 AM)

Circuit-breaker '84, this is Megatron's rubber duck. We've got ourselves a Rodimus Convoy. Do you copy? Over.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 07:06 AM)

I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've made my point very clear and have nothing more to say on the issue.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 07:00 AM)

I can't do anything to prevent hurricanes either but it'd be absurd to suggest I therefore shouldn't talk about them.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:57 AM)

Basically neither you nor I even like South Park anyways so the best you can do is leave it alone rather than suggest it is corrupting hearts and minds.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

In that case I'm... not sure what the point is?

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:53 AM)

Nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. You can't prevent people from doing it. It's an artistic work with fans. I don't think I'm off-track.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:51 AM)

As far as I can tell you just of course'd the thing you were poopooing...

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

Also, this is starting to get a bit too serious for the shoutbox (though it already was)

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

"It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing." Of course, that's South Park's "artistic" style. It's what South Park's audience wants, and that's okay.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

You can probably finish the sentence "I got 50% of my sense of humor from" with the name of some fictional work.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

And it still wouldn't be S.W.A.T.'ss or Grey's Anatomy's or South Park's fault.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

The idea isn't that people are taking South Park's in-universe parody moral lessons seriously (though as Nevermore points out, you can't safely assume that isn't also happening). It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

"People say" those people are right, and you should listen to them. We can't protect people from themselves, but you can advise them well.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:27 AM)

So many medical disasters because someone took what they saw on a hospital show at face value.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:25 AM)

So many people who think police and court procedure works like it does in Hollywood, and act accordingly. Sometimes to their own disadvantage, sometimes just to the frustration of well-meaning authorities.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:24 AM)

People say "you shouldn't take your morals from a TV show" all the time, but regardless of how these people want things to work doesn't mean other people aren't doing it anyways.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:01 AM)

And I mean, if you're looking for a 1950s conservative position on something, it's certainly that a TV show is rotting children's minds.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:00 AM)

Conservatives are not hiding under the bed waiting to ruin... uh... Family Guy of all things? And like, nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. Expecting such things is impractical.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

It was just the cartoon with those foul mouthed kids in the UK until that bubble burst after the movie. Reviewers joked the movies target audience would be unable to see it for the rating.

@  Paladin : (15 July 2020 - 05:14 PM)

see also: "South Park." the show that poisoned a generation by teaching them "it's stupid to feel for other people."

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:04 AM)

'Take that! People who care about things!'

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:02 AM)

With Brian, he stopped being the voice of reason and started to be the right wing notion of a liberal, someone who's lazy, pretentious, doesn't work at anything, is every bit as abusive as the rest of the cast and only wins arguments with strawmen.

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

Of course, I stopped enjoying Family Guy around that time, so my bias is clear. XP

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:54 AM)

Is it because they changed or we changed?  Stuff that was charming, or at least, funny at first can get really annoying the longer you know a person... and I find that can go for fictional characters as well.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

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@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:45 AM)

One example is Family Guy where around season 8 Brian is suddenly reviled by everyone and has acted way out of character since.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:44 AM)

My least favorite thing in fiction is when it changes hands so you get a author, writer or showrunner who hates a character or messes with a arc/layout.

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

You'll shoot yer eye out, kid.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I shot the sheriff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:24 PM)

han wasn't even in the movie until later

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:23 PM)

the stormtroopers shot first

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Maclunkey

@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH


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#1 Paladin

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:26 PM




Sorry, but right now I don't believe this Man can fly.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:28 PM

Are they seriously using Lord of the Rings music? Talk about out of place.

#3 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:36 PM

Even for a teaser that was... weak.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:19 PM

Eesh.

Yeah, not impressed in the least. What's with the whole fisherman thing?

And between that beard in the establishing shot making him look like Eric Bana, and the hitchhiking... did Snyder think he was making a Hulk movie?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:20 PM

That trailer does make me want an Aquaman movie now though.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

You're all nuts. This is a great teaser. The music works really well, too.

#7 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:33 PM

It's a great teaser for some weird ass Clark Kent movie but honestly when have we ever cared about Clark Kent.
This is bad marketing. You want to get the public excited? Give us some flashes of Superman DOING SOMETHING.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:36 PM

Hey maybe they are playing to a comment I made previously. This is the most unspectactular trailer for a Superhero in a long time, while the last Superman movie had one of the best. So if the previous film was bad and had a great trailer, maybe Man of Steel will be great becuase of its lackluster trailer.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

I need some evidence that Zack Snyder was not the worst possible choice for this project. This teaser gave no evidence either way, aside from the color filter starting to strengthen doubts.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

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The Crest is way too...busy. If that's a hint at what the suit is going to look like...

Look, Superman is the easiest hero alive to do a costume for: A home spun cloth Red and Blue suit. I don't care if you make up some nonsense like how the suit was made out of the fabric in the rocket that brought Kal-El to Earth and use that to explain why it's so durable (a la the Fantastic Four uniforms), but enough with trying to make the suit look more then something a guy's mother sewed for him.


As for the rest of it - All I could think was Johnathan Kent sounded a lot like Ra's Al Ghul, and it took me to the hitchhiking scene to realize that guy was supposed to be Clark.

Given the background music, I thought it was a modern day Aragon.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2012, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but honestly when have we ever cared about Clark Kent.

I care about Clark Kent... but I'm not seeing Clark Kent in there. I see a fisherman and a drifter... but not the mild-mannered news reporter for a major metropolitan newspaper. Not even a pair of glasses.

This just looks like Angst Filler.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

The terrible quality recording I saw of of what they showed at SDCC did have at least a bit of action... why the heck didn't we get that?

And considering Williams iconic theme is going to be absent from this movie, though fine for the reasons they've given, using recycled LOTR music for the teaser doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Zimmer could've come up with something interesting, instead; it isn't unheard of for composers to write something unique for a teaser or trailer, rather than just having the studio used canned music. But such recognizeable canned music is really distracting; I can't help but see the LOTR scene it was ripped from in my head as I'm watching the teaser.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:49 PM

Why would Superman have a contrail?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:51 PM

That's what happens when Supes gives in to a fourth meal craving.

#15 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jul 21 2012, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would Superman have a contrail?

Because FAST FLY!!!

I get that they want to make this about Clark Kent's journey of discovery but I think they are really doing a bad job with the marketing already. I hope they get bad feedback from this so they can improve the hype machine.
I really don't want to see another Superman movie fail.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jul 21 2012, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would Superman have a contrail?

To wake up the people who fell asleep during the previous 2 minutes.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 21 2012, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really don't want to see another Superman movie fail.


I do, because its going to be the only way they learn. They keep doing everything wrong, and turning Superman into Batman isn't gonna make it better.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

Here's the other version, with a voiceover from Jor-El instead of Jonathan. Slightly better, since Jor-El has cooler things to say. Still not hugely confidence inspiring, but Russell Crowe was undoubtedly a good choice. Ideally, very little of the movie would focus on this kind of grim scenery and period of Clark's life. I imagine the hitchhiking bit is him working his way North, where he eventually ends up in the Fortress and starts his life as Superman. Then, hopefully we can move to Metropolis and get into a brighter, lighter setting more appropriate to Superman. It'd be an amusing reversal, since the Donner film went downhill from Metropolis onwards.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:39 PM

geeze. you guys seem to forget that he traveled the world for a couple years before becoming superman. He did it to find himself.

I'm looking forward to it.

And the contrails looked awesome.
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#20 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE(skankerzero @ Jul 21 2012, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
geeze. you guys seem to forget that he traveled the world for a couple years before becoming superman. He did it to find himself.

Sarcasm? Because I don't recall this ever happening.

Again, I'm not judging the movie itself on this trailer but I AM judging their marketing. After the last lackluster film they really need to do more than this to grab the public's interest. I hope the next trailer has a bit more punch to it.